Fine, then don't buy it, get off of our website, and keep your complaints to yourself.
Apple. Doesn't. Cater. To. You. And they don't care. Nor will they change their market because the general public is a larger market. Stay with PCs. End of story.
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Fine, then don't buy it, get off of our website, and keep your complaints to yourself.
Apple. Doesn't. Cater. To. You. And they don't care. Nor will they change their market because the general public is a larger market. Stay with PCs. End of story.
Not all of us see value in raw specs.
Billions of Windows users. Excellent. May there continue to be billions of them. Much better for Apple.
I gave a solution earlier were apple could continue to sell "premium" desktops but be more affordable and still very profitable. a $800-$1000 mid-range desktop.
Desktops are dying a slow death. But they're still big among PC gamers and some on tech forums. Not the bulk of the market, ceratinly. Portability and miniaturization is the name of the game. Notebooks. Apple sells far more notebooks than desktops, and the entire industry is struggling with selling desktops.
I was not aware of this aspect. Very interesting.
Incidentally, I'm typing this in Killeen right now. Small world.
I have read all of your repetitive and absurd arguments on this tangential subject, and they seem to boil down to this: Apple is not overcharging for their monitors (priced 2x to 2.5x as much as the same size offered by other companies) because they are the only company to attach a $7.85 webcam, a $2.13 microphone, and a few other misc. micro-cheap components to it and slap it all into a brushed Aluminum case with a piece of $20 reflective glass on the front that issues glare which distracts the user and makes professional photo/video editing impossible except in rooms with blackout shades on the windows and all the lights turned off but makes it look great to the passerby or the customer drooling in the store?
So why the heck is Apple including it in a "Pro" notebook that costs $2500?
APPLE - PLEASE RELEASE OS X TO THE FREE WORLD! IT IS A GOOD OS, TRAPPED IN A JAIL CELL!
And as Judge Alsop in the Psystar case decided, Apple has the right to do exactly that, so you are wrong. Simple as that. Apple is the sole copyright owner for MacOS X. Do you think you can figure out what the words "copy" and "right" mean?
Actually, Apple does cater to me (just look at their "Get a Mac" campaign). I want an alternative to Windows (Can't stand Linux). I bought an iMac, and OS X meets the hype - too bad Apple's hardware was garbage and unfortunately I was forced to get rid of the iMac, but Windows is impossible to use now after using OS X.
Apple has put OS X in a jail cell and it's time to let it free.
They aren't overcharging because its their product and they can set the pricetag at whatever they want. If the consumer feels its too much, they won't buy it and Apple will lower the price or stop making it.
It all boils down to the golden rumor of consumerism - Vote with your wallet.
You'll never get your wish. Sorry. You and the rest of the shrinking mid-range desktop PC gamer demo aren't worth anywhere near enough for Apple do that.
Which line is that, daring to question Jobs on an Apple fanboy site, or invoking FDR's illegal internment of Japanese Americans during WWII? Just wondering which is a worse crime of netiquette in your eyes.
You'll be waiting for a looong time...have fun on Windows and stay away from anything to do with Apple.
Ah, Apple's target consumers are the intelligent ones! Well, that's certainly what every corporation wants its consumers to think, and I've got to hand it to Apple...
Erm, OK... SJ would be proud that someone "far from rich" can buy $n$ many Macs in 5 years, I guess. But this reminds me of my family, who have an offensive amount in property and trinkets, but claim to be "far from rich" because there's never any real money lying around. And you know why? Because it's locked up in property and trinkets. Rich != liquid assets.
Wait, what? Macs are for people who live off savings, but Dells are for people who live off over-extended credit? That one's almost quotable
.A Mac running OS X is like any other PC running Windows, only somewhat more pleasant to work with. For home "family" use, there's not going to be a financial benefit from choosing a Mac. In fact, not only do you have your bigger initial outlay, but servicing an iMac is a costly and delicate pain compared to a standard PC desktop. Since you're "not rich", I am of course assuming that "take it to a repair shop" is your last option, not your first, and "buy a new one before the warranty runs out" is also not an option.
If money is tight, I can't think of one reason to choose a new Mac for home use. Used Macs can be got for a fair price in the right place, and perhaps the resaleability of a used Mac helps Apple sales - but the initial buyer will be the well-off guy originally described.
Marketing is based on stereotyping consumers. Apple's marketing is great.gregorsamsa said:
Anyway, if you're "making a basic cutback" just to buy a Mac over a PC, then you're an enthusiast, not just someone buying a computer as a tool. That's cool - an enthusiast has different priorities. But if Apple gave more than one hoot about enthusiasts it'd've built a desktop box and we wouldn't have had this Psystar kerfuffle in the first place.
MBPs are notorious for getting hot anyways, just put better cooling. Apple should at least give us a choice to get a 280M or 9800M GTX.
You cannot justify selling a $2500 notebook with a mid-range GPU (and a mid-range CPU as well).
Yeah.......again all of your same arguments could have been used by Gates' attorneys--and were--when they were up against Janet El Reño. Funny how you--like many of the other fanboys--tend to live and die by copyrights when Jobs is involved but when others are involved it is a different story.
Strawman argument.
Read this before bringing up the MS antitrust case again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_v._Microsoft
What I have been hoping for are the options for a better CPU + worse GPU or a better GPU + worse CPU, to still stay within thermal limits but give more options.
Plus (feasible) cooling can only go so far.
And give away their core business, just for you. That way they can grow the $119 licensing fee market, and ditch that annoying $700 per unit they earn from hardware. Then, they can hire a lot more programmers and begin the arduous process of writing drivers for every device out there, and supporting untold numbers of hardware combinations with your newly expanded support team. And while they're at it, why not just give iTMS to me. LOL.
perhaps the problem is that Psystar doesn't even have a contract with Apple.
All the talk about what is allowed under the EULA is interesting but somewhat beside the point since Psystar clearly isn't a "End User" by any definition. They're a manufacturer. They're copying and distributing Apples' copyrighted material without any sort of agreement with Apple.
It's copyright violations that have gotten them into trouble, not violations of the EULA.......and then there are those trademark issues too.....and some other stuff
Sir, I don't need to read that. I lived through it and followed it every day when it happened. I am aware of all the arguments made by the El Reño justice department. It was one of the biggest travesties in American legal history, and I say this as someone who is the furthest thing from a Gates/MS fan. What I am saying is that although obviously these two cases are not exactly the same, there are more similarities than you choose to admit and/or pay attention to.
At least then they can get money from people who would never buy a Mac. Better a $119 license fee than $0.
Or Apple could just be cheaper and more configurations.
They became the end user when they bought the OS. period. They have not sold a single unlicensed copy of the OS to anyone. Every machine comes with the retail licensed copy. This is covered under the First Sale Doctrine.
Then, after that, they decided to resell the machine. People do it every day on CL and eBay.