That's the point.
I do my best to be courteous and put it back down, but don't make a scene in the office the one time in 50 I forget.
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That's the point.
I do my best to be courteous and put it back down, but don't make a scene in the office the one time in 50 I forget.
Next time she comes out, pretend you have to go... then on your return, in a raised voice tell... no announce that the next time she intends to pebbledash the porcelain, could she please flush before she leaves.
They shouldn't, but they do.
Makes sense, but they'll never agree to it.
I like that, on occasion, actually.
Bingo. I don't know how old everyone is here, but I'm 31 and married. And I'll tell you what, the women win. It's just not worth the hassle to argue about it.
At least us men get to decide what to do with the armies and corporations.
I've tried diplomacy first- didn't work. You actually do have to p*** on the seat.
The man is right.
I always pee sitting down when I get up from bed at night. No need to turn on a light then.
What I do is put both the seat and the lid down so the woman has to do some work too. I've had complaints about putting both down, but I said "It's habit" just to get myself off the hook.
I've pretty much always put the toliet seat/lid down after doing my thing. It's just become a habit of mine that developed on its own.
When I was young and silly I always thought "only wimps put the seat down", etc. Now I have great appreciation for men who put the seat down. It just shows appreciation for having things look nice, and for - like someone else has said before - always leave a place nicer than you found it.
A toilet simply looks better with the seat down -- that's just the default state of it. You'd never see a toilt with the lid up in an advertisement, architecture magazine, or really ANYWHERE except for college dorms and bachelor pads. Anyone I know with an even remotely sophisticated and refined style would not consider leaving the lid up, even if it's a man living by himself - it just looks messy and un-aesthetic.
I mean, how much work is it to put the seat down? Half a second? So why not just do it, have the place look nice and "together", make your female friends happy, and feel good about yourself?
It's sort of like making your bed. Sure you could argue you'll mess it up again at night, anyway -- but it's still nice to have a bedroom with a nicely made bed. Just shows some sophistication and "togetherness".
A toilet simply looks better with the seat down -- that's just the default state of it. You'd never see a toilt with the lid up in an advertisement, architecture magazine, or really ANYWHERE except for college dorms and bachelor pads. Anyone I know with an even remotely sophisticated and refined style would not consider leaving the lid up, even if it's a man living by himself - it just looks messy and un-aesthetic.
I mean, how much work is it to put the seat down? Half a second? So why not just do it, have the place look nice and "together", make your female friends happy, and feel good about yourself?
It's sort of like making your bed. Sure you could argue you'll mess it up again at night, anyway -- but it's still nice to have a bedroom with a nicely made bed. Just shows some sophistication and "togetherness".
Time to invent that auto-seat-lower.
After each flush (there's the catch... you must flush), the toilet will automatically lower the seat.
If you try to stop the process (must have a built-in safeguard) it will yell at you.
After each flush (there's the catch... you must flush), the toilet will automatically lower the seat.
If you try to stop the process (must have a built-in safeguard) it will yell at you.
I say every house should have urinals. That way the women doesn't have to complain about the seat being up.
After a long night of drinking I don't want to have to waste 3 seconds to put the seat up.
You would save a lot of water too. This ski resort I go to doesn't even have a water flush for the urinals... I don't know how it works. it's like super glossy surface so there's no residual liquid staying around. But it does't really work that great, cause it smells like ass in there.
Time to invent that auto-seat-lower.
After each flush (there's the catch... you must flush), the toilet will automatically lower the seat.
If you try to stop the process (must have a built-in safeguard) it will yell at you.
they have pneumatic seats now. saw it at my uncles house. stops you from slamming it down, even easier there, just tap it down and it'll finish it the rest of the way.
I'm 40 and gay. Trust me, women DON'T always win with us.
That's cheating!
Optionally, if the toilet has a tank, fill that with dishwashing liquid.
Hmmm....
At home, I usually put both down, because I have a propensity to send things flying in the general direction of the toilet. Otherwise, I leave it how I found it.
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I'm the one who suggested putting the lid down as well as the seat and was then advised that most offices only have a seat and no lid--point taken.
If it were me then, I would do whatever felt most comfortable, and not care if they whine.
BTW, I exclusively raise and lower public toilet seats with my shoe--when you all talk about raising the lid and lowering it, is that what most of you all mean? Or do some of you use your hand? That would really gross me out.
I also have an interesting anecdote about toilets when I was a college freshman living on an all male floor. There was a bathroom with three toilets for about 30 guys, and no urinals. So there was a huge problem of there always being piss on the seats, not to mention all around the toilet, and on the weekends vomit.
So I suggested an idea--the middle toilet is only for sitting on, and the seat is permanently down, so there will never be piss on it. The other two are always for standing and pissing and the seat is always up. I even put up signs and tried to advocate my idea but no one listened and the signs were torn down pretty quickly, but I thought it was genius!
So, I found another bathroom on campus to use when I had so sit down; it was a pain, but kind of worth it in my opinion.
If it were me then, I would do whatever felt most comfortable, and not care if they whine.
BTW, I exclusively raise and lower public toilet seats with my shoe--when you all talk about raising the lid and lowering it, is that what most of you all mean? Or do some of you use your hand? That would really gross me out.
I also have an interesting anecdote about toilets when I was a college freshman living on an all male floor. There was a bathroom with three toilets for about 30 guys, and no urinals. So there was a huge problem of there always being piss on the seats, not to mention all around the toilet, and on the weekends vomit.
So I suggested an idea--the middle toilet is only for sitting on, and the seat is permanently down, so there will never be piss on it. The other two are always for standing and pissing and the seat is always up. I even put up signs and tried to advocate my idea but no one listened and the signs were torn down pretty quickly, but I thought it was genius!
So, I found another bathroom on campus to use when I had so sit down; it was a pain, but kind of worth it in my opinion.
Yep...we have these in a couple of our buildings on campus...there's a layer of liquid in the drain that's less dense than urine, so it seals everything in and the urine just goes down the drain. And yes, there seems to be some sort of ultra-slick waxy coating on the inside of the urinal itself that makes it bead up and head straight for the drain.
Very true. It's always funny when a woman tries those manipulations that obviously work on straight men thoughI'm 40 and gay. Trust me, women DON'T always win with us.
Here's another idea, the next time she publicly chastises you for leaving the seat up respond with:
My guess is she'd probably never bring it up again.
My guess is she'd probably never bring it up again.
I lost this argument years ago. I rationalize my capitulation thusly:
Of the two activities performed, men will have the seat down 50% of the time, women 100%.
Assuming an equal distribution of gender and task, the seat will then be required to be down for use 75% of the time. Ergo, I bow to the greater weight of common need.
Or, I just consider it a payment for the ability to stop by the side of the road and pee anytime I want.
Of the two activities performed, men will have the seat down 50% of the time, women 100%.
Assuming an equal distribution of gender and task, the seat will then be required to be down for use 75% of the time. Ergo, I bow to the greater weight of common need.
Or, I just consider it a payment for the ability to stop by the side of the road and pee anytime I want.
This doesn't make sense.
That is unless you do #1 and #2 equally. Most folks I know do #1 more times per day.
I believe that would constitute sexual harassment in Canada and the USA. Attempts to belittle and humiliate coworkers should not be tolerated, because it creates a hostile work environment.
Since you're in a co-ed washroom, you're actually doing her a favour when you don't lower the seat. I find that most men have quite poor hygiene. You're lucky if they lift the seat at all. And they tend to piss all over whichever surface, and don't clean it up afterwards. So, by raising the seat, you're saving that seat from being despoiled by other less concientious men.
Also, no one has some mysterious right to being pandered to. When we choose to do things for women, like lower ( or raise
) the seat, it's exactly like openning the door for them, it should be something we want to do of our own volition, not due to bizarre pressure tactics. That's uncouth. If someone, male or female, insisted that I hold the door open for them, I'd firmly close it completely.
If this coworker is of equal rank, politely tell her that as a courtesy you try to remember to lower the seat, but you occasionally forget. If she continues her complaining, tell her tough, you do the best you can, and she can suck it up and lower the seat herself. It's not going to kill her. You may also notify your boss, because if this person is an equal rank to yours, she may have no business trying to tell you what to do in the bathroom. That is your business, not hers.
That being said, I try to remember to lower it at home, as a courtesy to my wife. I also try to do the same thing at work, since the one I use is also shared with a majority of women.
As a side note, I worked with a guy once who commented to me that one of the guys on our floor must be "whipped" because the toilet set was always down. Then he remembered that I was one of the 2 married guys on the floor, the other guy on the floor maybe an hour a day.
That being said, I try to remember to lower it at home, as a courtesy to my wife. I also try to do the same thing at work, since the one I use is also shared with a majority of women.
As a side note, I worked with a guy once who commented to me that one of the guys on our floor must be "whipped" because the toilet set was always down. Then he remembered that I was one of the 2 married guys on the floor, the other guy on the floor maybe an hour a day.