I never made an issue out of it with the guys in my life, but I like the seat and lid down. Its mostly an aesthetic thing, like have closet doors and dresser drawers closed. I suppose that the seat up look calls attention to the toilet in some Victorian, yucky way.
Anyway, get a cat and youll have to keep a lid on it regardless whether its a female cat or not.
I'm the one who suggested putting the lid down as well as the seat and was then advised that most offices only have a seat and no lid--point taken.
If it were me then, I would do whatever felt most comfortable, and not care if they whine.
BTW, I exclusively raise and lower public toilet seats with my shoe--when you all talk about raising the lid and lowering it, is that what most of you all mean? Or do some of you use your hand? That would really gross me out.
I also have an interesting anecdote about toilets when I was a college freshman living on an all male floor. There was a bathroom with three toilets for about 30 guys, and no urinals. So there was a huge problem of there always being piss on the seats, not to mention all around the toilet, and on the weekends vomit.
So I suggested an idea--the middle toilet is only for sitting on, and the seat is permanently down, so there will never be piss on it. The other two are always for standing and pissing and the seat is always up. I even put up signs and tried to advocate my idea but no one listened and the signs were torn down pretty quickly, but I thought it was genius!
So, I found another bathroom on campus to use when I had so sit down; it was a pain, but kind of worth it in my opinion.
I believe that would constitute sexual harassment in Canada and the USA. Attempts to belittle and humiliate coworkers should not be tolerated, because it creates a hostile work environment.
Since you're in a co-ed washroom, you're actually doing her a favour when you don't lower the seat. I find that most men have quite poor hygiene. You're lucky if they lift the seat at all. And they tend to piss all over whichever surface, and don't clean it up afterwards. So, by raising the seat, you're saving that seat from being despoiled by other less concientious men.
Also, no one has some mysterious right to being pandered to. When we choose to do things for women, like lower ( or raise) the seat, it's exactly like openning the door for them, it should be something we want to do of our own volition, not due to bizarre pressure tactics. That's uncouth. If someone, male or female, insisted that I hold the door open for them, I'd firmly close it completely.
I never made an issue out of it with the guys in my life, but I like the seat and lid down. It’s mostly an aesthetic thing, like have closet doors and dresser drawers closed. I suppose that the seat up look calls attention to the toilet in some Victorian, yucky way.
Anyway, get a cat and you’ll have to keep a lid on it regardless whether it’s a female cat or not.
Yea, why do women have the final say in this like they own the toilet.
But really, it doesn't seem like a big deal. It's pretty automatic for me to just put it up, and put it down. It takes about 2 seconds.
Exactly my point.
I lift the seat as not to whizz all over it - why should I have to put it back down? .
my ex-girlfriend couldn't stand a raised toilet seat - she was German, so I learned quickly!
I always thought of German engineering as second to none !!!! What **** designed that loo?I can't believe I closed that tab before posting.
Cliffs Notes: German toilets are weird. There might be legislation to force men to pee sitting down (Sitzpinkler). An American ex-pat's take on it.
Edit: You could always recommend that a squat toilet be installed. No seats, no problem!![]()
Cliffs Notes: German toilets are weird. There might be legislation to force men to pee sitting down (Sitzpinkler). An American ex-pat's take on it.
From article said:The desire for men to pee sitting down seems to correlate with a left-wing disposition (presumably with an eye to equality of the sexes and the desire to spare women the splash marks they previously had to endure in less enlightened times).
That's stupid. Even in the women's toilets, where I presume only women do their business, their toilets and the area around it can also be a mess.
Normally toilet paper all over the place. I swear, they can waste entire forests of the stuff.That's stupid. Even in the women's toilets, where I presume only women do their business, their toilets and the area around it can also be a mess.
Oy! We're not all the same. Just as you claim not all men piss the same.Normally toilet paper all over the place. I swear, they can waste entire forests of the stuff.
You may protest, but you know it's trueOy! We're not all the same. Just as you claim not all men piss the same.![]()
The cheek!You may protest, but you know it's true![]()
You see, this is the weird thing. I normally do sit down to pee. Without going über-personal, one of the problems of having a foreskin is that when you shake you have no idea where the drips are going to go. Much better for it to go into the bowl than risk even a dribble ending up on your trousers.Nor does it mean that you and I do those things.![]()
I think it's safe that although dynamicv sits more often than not, that more men stand than they do sit. And more women sit (or worse, hover) than er, um, stand.Maybe men shouldn't generalise toilet use on all women, but the number of dissatisfied women seem to be higher than dissatisfied men.