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Since the 6s and the SE are still being sold in the US new (the SE on clearance at apple and via third party resellers), I would suspect support for at least 13. I can see the 5s/6/6+ being dropped due to lower memory capacities than newer phones.

I'm not into specifics of iPads to comment about those models. Though I still own an iPad Pro 10.5 and Mini 4
 
No thanks. I'm sticking to iOS 6 with beautiful UI to save my eyes
I'd be curious to hear what apps (or lack thereof) you are still running on iOS 6. Do you find limitations or are you pretty much a "flip-phone soul in a touchscreen body" type of user?
 
Why would we listen to this? Most CPUs have 64-bit support so that's the last limitation really.
With Apples design of their 64-bit CPUs, I think there is the odd chance that Apple still supports the A7. The people who upgrade devices regularly will still upgrade and having more supported devices means more devices for their growing services platform.

Just FYI:I’m agreeing with you.
 
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As long as they release a new 4" phone to replace the SE, this is fine.

I just bought the SE as a backup phone a couple weeks ago. Though if I had known the 6s was available for the same price on another site, I may have gone with that.

5 1/2 months, and I can unlock it.
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I would prefer my 6s and mini 2 not be supported than being supported and unusable. I took the bait too many times with EOL versions and regretted the move with no way to go back.

The one phone I upgraded too many times was my original phone, the 3G. Should never have upgraded to iOS 4.

Later phones, I never owned personally at end of support. I had already handed the phone down to someone else, or it had failed due to something else like the battery (5C).
 
You are crying because Apple does not support a 4 years old phone via software? :eek:

Samsung S7 (2016) does not support Android 9 (2018). o_O
 
You are crying because Apple does not support a 4 years old phone via software? :eek:

Samsung S7 (2016) does not support Android 9 (2018). o_O

Sure sure, come on everybody let's go to bestbuy and buy Xs for all of us.
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Looks like someones Cooked up a new way to generate revenue! Can't battery change your way out of software deprivation.

edit: deprecation, but I'll keep the original.

Exactly good job Timmy see ya in hel#$!!
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Why would they continue selling the iPhone SE if it will no longer be supported later this year?

Makes no sense.... yet, I've come to expect such things from Apple.

They're still selling the ipod touch 6 which is almost useless so....
 
You have to look at the economics for Apple. The factors that they're likely weighing are hardware support and performance limitations (ie: user experience).
The primary reason they dropped support for the 5 is because it wasn't a 64-bit proc. Supporting that phone would have fragmented the code base too far and they would've had to support two very different branches of code.
I think that, as long as the phone has the chops to run the new iOS and they don't have to worry about providing updates for older mature hardware, we're going to see support for quite a while. But that's not saying that they won't axe the 5S because it doesn't have the RAM to handle a growing OS.
 
Garbage claims. No way they drop support for the mini 4. They still sell it! Apple has never EOLd a product in the same year they sold it.

At minimum it has 2 years left. They won’t stop supporting a product still under AppleCare.
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Gotta call BS on this one - this isn't an Android OEM. Apple will drop support for the 5s and iPad Air (both from the same year if memory serves) just like normal.

The SE still has several years left, just like the 6s does from whence it came.



I still miss that UI design, good enough to lick, would switch back to it in a moment if I could.
They just sold new SEs on clearance. They are eligible for AppleCare too. iPhone 6s is also still available through carriers. No way iOS 13 abandons them.
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Um, yeah, not happening. iOS 13 will drop the 5S, 14 will drop the 6, and 15 will drop the 6S and SE.
Sounds about right.
 
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Highly doubt the 6S will get dropped. The 5S and 6 are done. Good riddance, way too slow to use nowadays.
 
Are people forgetting the iPhone 6 and A8 chip exists? Apple is not killing support for THREE generations of chips and phones at once.
 
You are crying because Apple does not support a 4 years old phone via software? :eek:

Samsung S7 (2016) does not support Android 9 (2018). o_O

That's not Apple. Who cares what Samsung does, they made a phone that literally exploded in customers hands or pants in hundreds of instances.
 
A band new, 3 year old phone. It's not exactly kept a secret from consumers with any technology what model is current and what is not.
You're suggesting that consumers get what they pay for but they're not. You're being disingenuous if you think they should accept limited iOS releases on their shiny new iPhone just because it wasn't purchased the year that model was released.
 
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The Apple TV 4 and HomePod have the A8 chip so I’m doubting they will drop support based solely on devices that use the A8.
 
It's close, but not quite...
No, it’s the same. The only differences (other than design of course) are Touch ID 2nd gen on the 6s, 1st gen on the SE, 3D Touch on the 6s, not on the SE, and the 5 megapixel FaceTime HD camera, while the SE has a 1.2 megapixel FaceTime HD camera. And none of those would affect speed or support for iOS 13.
 
I highly doubt that they will be cutting out A9 devices. All A9 devices are paired with 2 gb of RAM -- there's no reason, and combined with A7 and A8 devices, they would be cutting off many users at once. A8 is a possibility, because iPhone 6 and 6 Plus only have 1 gb of RAM, and so if they really wanna take iOS to the next level, it may need more RAM to operate.

However! The iPad mini 4 also has the A8 and they still sell that device. That would be really messed up of them to cut off that device already. So because of that, maybe this will be the first time iOS device support will be based on RAM, because the Mini 4 has 2 gb of it.
 
One thing that continues to be a surprise is how well A7 devices function when running some complex apps. For example I can have several audio/synth apps running in the background generating real-time synth from MIDI input, and they never choke. It’s when you’re doing something iOS related that the system feels like molasses.
 
No, it’s the same. The only differences (other than design of course) are Touch ID 2nd gen on the 6s, 1st gen on the SE, 3D Touch on the 6s, not on the SE, and the 5 megapixel FaceTime HD camera, while the SE has a 1.2 megapixel FaceTime HD camera. And none of those would affect speed or support for iOS 13.
The cellular chip is different too, for instance the SE doesn’t have LTE-Advanced. Also there’s no barometer in the SE, no Taptic Engine, no MIMO for the WiFi radio and no ion-strengthened glass or 7000-series aluminum. The SE really was all about reducing cost as much as possible.

Actually it’s probably easier to say the SE and 6S have the same SoC and RAM (A9/2GB) and the same rear-facing camera, but other than that they really don’t have a whole lot else in common.
 
It would make no sense for Apple to keep brand new SE on the shelves and not sell remaining inventory. And just because Apple got rid of inventory, that was not some hidden agreement on Apple's part that the SE would continue to work with upcoming iOS releases.

What makes no sense, is you and many other members here replying to the sketchy rumor as if it were fact, and bashing Apple without any facts.

No, but Apple has never sold a phone that didn't get at least one update after it was finally discontinued. The SE, 6 and 6s are both still being sold as new by authorized third parties, and Apple just sold SEs new directly from their store. It's highly unlikely that they won't give these phones one last update, assuming they do finally discontinue them through all authorized sources in September. They might only pull the 6, but not the 6s and SE. Who knows?

I don't believe iOS13 won't be supporting 6s / SE / Mini 4. They stopped selling 6s last year, so it's nowhere near to be called "obsolete", same for the SE. They will surely drop support of 5s and probably 6.

They did not stop selling the 6s, or the 6 for that matter. They might not drop support for the 6, since it is still being sold, but for sure 13 would be the last. The 5s most definitely. I wouldn't want to run 13 on my 5s, as 12 runs pretty sluggishly. But considering Apple is directly selling the SE, it and the 6s are definitely getting 13 and I'd bet 14 to cover the full AppleCare+ warranty period.
 
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