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Hoyboy said:
They are however the only company that uses a lightning port...
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Yep, and... ???

It's not clear what your point is here.

Apple also has their own style of audio controls incorporated into the headphone jack, which it seems every major headphone maker supports with Apple-specific versions of their products.

Do you think those manufacturers are going to turn their back on a huge portion of the market?
 
deeddawg said:
Yep, and... ???

It's not clear what your point is here.

Apple also has their own style of audio controls incorporated into the headphone jack, which it seems every major headphone maker supports with Apple-specific versions of their products.

Do you think those manufacturers are going to turn their back on a huge portion of the market?
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Point is that Lightning is not going to be adopted by other manufacturers.

If you buy Lightning headphones/earphones, it will only work with the iPhone and iPad.
 
tubeexperience said:
Point is that Lightning is not going to be adopted by other manufacturers.

If you buy Lightning headphones/earphones, it will only work with the iPhone and iPad.
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Not necessarily. There are lightning to USB adapters and to USB C. There's headphone jack to lightning adapter, you can bet there will be one for lightning headphone to headphone jack for those.
 
FurbyUK said:
Not necessarily. There are lightning to USB adapters and to USB C. There's headphone jack to lightning adapter, you can bet there will be one for lightning headphone to headphone jack for those.
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More adapters. That's exactly what consumers want!
 
deeddawg said:
Some good points there, @Moccasin -- also that would give the aftermarket time to catch up with the change and create a deeper/broader array of adapters and headphones.

I also wonder if the ceramic Apple Watch is a precursor for a non-aluminum iPhone? They're going to need to do something if they're aiming for wireless charging, and ceramic may be the path rather than return to plastic or glass.
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History over the past iPhone models has shown that many changes Apple make in one year are precursors to much bigger changes later. TouchID & ApplePay are obvious ones. They also had their fingers burned a little with the iPhone4 when the design was so different that the antenna issues weren't spotted. They tend to go more for evolution now and yes the Apple Watch provides new avenues to try things out. Not only that but of course solving a problem in one device leads to a solution that can be applied to others.
 
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tubeexperience said:
If you buy Lightning headphones/earphones, it will only work with the iPhone and iPad.
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I expect the aftermarket vendors would initially just include a lighting to 1/8" adapter with their existing designs. Both options in one package. Or just expect end users to buy one themselves.

Dedicated lighting only versions probably won't really hit the market from major vendors for a few months at least while they assess the market adoption.

Though as I think about it a moment, the single portable device without a lighting port is a cheap android tablet I bought to use with my pellet grill. Never have used it for music so no loss. I can't even think offhand where it's audio port is located. Otherwise everything the family owns and uses for music has a lightning port.
 
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deeddawg said:
I expect the aftermarket vendors would initially just include a lighting to 1/8" adapter with their existing designs. Both options in one package. Or just expect end users to buy one themselves.

Dedicated lighting only versions probably won't really hit the market from major vendors for a few months at least while they assess the market adoption.

Though as I think about it a moment, the single portable device without a lighting port is a cheap android tablet I bought to use with my pellet grill. Never have used it for music so no loss. I can't even think offhand where it's audio port is located. Otherwise everything the family owns and uses for music has a lightning port.
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A lot of headphones, especially higher end have replaceable cables. I already buy headphones that include a cable with inline remote, along with a longer cable with no remote.

I wouldn't be surprised to buy a pair of headphones with a 3.5mm cable and a lightning cable included in the box.

I also wouldn't be surprised to see lightning headphone cables sold separately, either aftermarket or as OEM accessories, to plug directly into these kinds of headphones.
 
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deeddawg said:
I expect the aftermarket vendors would initially just include a lighting to 1/8" adapter with their existing designs. Both options in one package. Or just expect end users to buy one themselves.

Dedicated lighting only versions probably won't really hit the market from major vendors for a few months at least while they assess the market adoption.

Though as I think about it a moment, the single portable device without a lighting port is a cheap android tablet I bought to use with my pellet grill. Never have used it for music so no loss. I can't even think offhand where it's audio port is located. Otherwise everything the family owns and uses for music has a lightning port.
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Which goes back to the point that a lot of people will be stuck using the adapter.
 
deeddawg said:
Yep, and... ???

It's not clear what your point is here.

Apple also has their own style of audio controls incorporated into the headphone jack, which it seems every major headphone maker supports with Apple-specific versions of their products.

Do you think those manufacturers are going to turn their back on a huge portion of the market?
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These manufacturers will need to pay a licensing fee to get their accessory to work with the lightning port (for lightning headphones). Not hard to join the dots is it?
 
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FurbyUK said:
The when has no relevance. But basically since the introduction of 1/8 jack.

Also, get used to 1/8 jack going as Intel are looking to end it as well and rely on USB C. (Hopefully Apple might switch to USB C as well, to make it better for all).
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3.5 mm headphone jack has been around as long as I can remember.
 
tubeexperience said:
3.5 mm headphone jack has been around as long as I can remember.
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Modern phone connectors are available in three standard sizes. The original 1⁄4 in (6.35 mm) version dates from 1878, when it was used for manual telephone exchanges, making it possibly the oldest electrical connector standard still in use.

The 3.5 mm or miniature and 2.5 mm or sub-miniature sizes were originally designed as two-conductor connectors for earpieces on transistor radios since the 1950s, the standard still used today.[8] The 3.5 mm connector, which is the most commonly used in portable application today, was popularized by the Sony EFM-117J radio which was released in 1964.[9][10] It became very popular with its application on the Walkman in 1979.
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FurbyUK said:
You're still not approaching any actual point as the why 'When' is relevant. Or are you trying to say that because you don't remember it means it didn't happen?
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Of cause it does.

Imagine if I handed you a 17 lbs laptop and said "back in the 80s, laptops were heavier than that".

Are you now going to carry that laptop around?
 
Fuchal said:
I also wouldn't be surprised to see lightning headphone cables sold separately, either aftermarket or as OEM accessories, to plug directly into these kinds of headphones.
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Like the $9 ones Apple starts selling on Friday? :)
 
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