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Radeon 5770 and 5870 Upgrade Kits Posted to Apple Store

mdntcallr said:
That's a great question
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The cards support audio over DisplayPort, and DisplayPort is meant to be compatible with HDMI.

So with whatever funky adapter there is, there should be audio+video over HDMI.

Of course, I think you need to either ask Apple at this stage... or wait for someone to experiment, fail and complain here, and then get it working ;)
 
hightechdave said:
So you have SLI, under Windows, your computer is unsupported by Apple, not under warranty, you had to build it yourself, research the components, install OSX, debug any issues and have to deal with ever point release possibly breaking your system?
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Yeah, that's really hard and super technical things!!! Of course you lifelong Mac Users would have problems with highly technical tasks such as "Installing the OS" and "Researching the Components"...

I agree with you 100%, pay an extra grand or so for an outdated machine. You Sir deserve to be ripped off.
 
I think it is just Apple not thinking about the 2008, and I suspect it will work. They have typos all the time. Look at the Mac Pro order page, they have a type in it when selecting your video card:

"Configure your Mac Pro with high-performance PCI Express graphics cards from AMD. The ATI Radeon HD 5770 is up to 5x faster than the previous-generation standard graphics card. Or select the ATI Radeon HD 4870 for even more advanced graphics work. Configure your Mac Pro with two cards to power up to six displays simultaneously for visualization projects and large display walls. 


Note: If both the Mac Pro RAID Card and Fibre Channel card options are selected, only a single graphics card can be installed. "

K
 
loveturtle said:
I'm certainly not defending Apple and quite dislike their "upgrade" policy but SnowLeopard runs just fine on 2006 Mac Pro's, perhaps you're thinking of the PowerMac? Also, the 4870 works just fine on 2006 Mac Pro's and most likely the 5870 will too.
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I think he means no 64 bit kernal, but yes my '06 Pro runs Snow Leopard fine too!
 
If ATI's firmware developers continue doing the great work they've been doing up until now, these cards should work fine all the way back to the 2006 Mac Pro.

Apple doesn't mention older models even if they do work due to not wanting to support them. Note that the 4870 was claimed to not work in older Mac Pros, yet it worked fine.

We won't know for sure until someone tries it. Period.
 
NetScheduler said:
Yeah, that's really hard and super technical things!!! Of course you lifelong Mac Users would have problems with highly technical tasks such as "Installing the OS" and "Researching the Components"...

I agree with you 100%, pay an extra grand or so for an outdated machine. You Sir deserve to be ripped off.
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LOL yeah me and every other pro out there who wants a high end workstation not a hobby project? Some of us can afford and easily justify the expense of a Mac Pro. Why do you trolls even bother posting this nonsense?

Your hackintosh is cool, we get it. But no self-respecting pro is going to trade their Mac Pro for a hack job. Paying a $1000 premium for high end hardware is a no-brainer when you pull in six figures from it annually. There comes a point in some people's career when buying hardware that 'just works' outweighs any cost savings from rolling your own unsupported hardware. You can belittle me for spending my money and time intelligently but it doesn't add any validity to your argument. Just because you have more time than money doesn't mean you are right and I am wrong.

Figure in your research, build-time, support, crashes, etc all the time related to your choice to roll your own. Do the math, there is a reason why companies don't throw money at building hackintoshes for their workstations... because it is a HOBBY and most importantly it isn't supported/warranteed (this is key). I can only derive from your post that either you are simply trolling, delusional, or your billable rate must be ****. I can't make the numbers work where I save money by building a hackintosh no matter how fun the project sounds.
 
I'll be adding a 5870 to my Mac Pro as soon as they are available. Replacing the 4870 in my 09 Mac Pro.

I have a GT120 in there as well but since there doesn't appear to be a clear replacement for it. I suppose it will live on for a while longer.

Does anyone know if the Mac Pro supplies enough power to drive both a 5770 and 5870? I know this would require extra cables to split the power coming from the board. But would it work?
 
hightechdave said:
Lol yeah me and every other pro out there who wants a high end workstation not a hobby project? Some of us can afford and easily justify the expense of a Mac pro. Why do you trolls even bother posting this nonsense?

You hackintosh is cool, we get it. But no self-respecting pro is going to trade their Mac Pro for a hack job. Paying a $1000 premium for high end hardware is a no-brainer when you pull in six figures from it annually.
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+1

There is also the option of sourcing all the parts yourself and building the Pro from scratch. I did that for my 09 model and saved thousands...
 
Cynicalone said:
I'll be adding a 5870 to my Mac Pro as soon as they are available. Replacing the 4870 in my 09 Mac Pro.

I have a GT120 in there as well but since there doesn't appear to be a clear replacement for it. I suppose it will live on for a while longer.

Does anyone know if the Mac Pro supplies enough power to drive both a 5770 and 5870? I know this would require extra cables to split the power coming from the board. But would it work?
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in my 2008 Mac Pro, the 8800GTS went belly-up, bought a GT120 which was much much worse than the old 8800 (but cheaper)
Also bought a stock 5850 a few months ago, Mac OS hates it of course, but Windows 7 loves it! I had to buy a specific power cable from Apple service, it's a weird "normal" power on one end for the 5850 and a smaller plug on the other end, for connection to the logic board.
 
utwarreng said:
Does anyone know if these will support both audio and video through HDMI?

Edit: Upon looking at the image of the upgrade kit, I realized that the card doesn't have HDMI. If someone goes out and buys a different 5770/5870, will the drivers support them, and consequently work with audio/video out through HDMI?
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You can run a cable that has DVI on the Mac Pro end and HDMI on the TV end. I bought several through Amazon for under $5.

Hyata said:
5770 is junk, a few dollars more and you can get a GTX460 that'll wipe the floor with the 5770. ATI is going to release their new cards in a couple months anyway. When that happens the 5000 series are gonna be yesterdays news real fast. These cards were released in October, paying more than $170 on a 5770 is just stupid at this point.
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WHY is it 'junk'? It is a 1GB card as opposed to the 512MB card currently / previously sold.
 
HD5870 early 2009 and late 2010 revs and the hd5770 only for the late 2010 rev. Well guys at this time as far I can say on the mac pros, the late 2010 model is decently priced and kudos for putting wifi as default, but shame for not "officially" supporting hd5870 on the 2008 rev, but keep in mind that it may work just fine as the hd4870 did on the efi32 mac pros.
 
hightechdave said:
Lol yeah me and every other pro out there who wants a high end workstation not a hobby project? Some of us can afford and easily justify the expense of a Mac pro. Why do you trolls even bother posting this nonsense?

You hackintosh is cool, we get it. But no self-respecting pro is going to trade their Mac Pro for a hack job. Paying a $1000 premium for high end hardware is a no-brainer when you pull in six figures from it annually.
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Your highend workstation cost a small fortune and will only be supported for a year maybe two. Then Apple will want you to buy a new one. As where the BYOS guy can upgrade his sytem indefinitly.

That's great that you pull in six figure's (that's alot of money for some people) but it doesn't make it alright to waste money either.
 
Power? Something else?

Is there any possibility that there is a genuine reason why the 2008 Mac Pro wouldn't be supported? For example, was there any change in the total amount of power a 2009 could supply in comparison to a 2008?

It's one thing to see a screen come up when a card is inserted. It seems like another thing for it to be stable when you are gaming.

I'm not saying that it doesn't work, I'm just not ready to condemn apple until someone tries it in their machine and has experienced zero problems.
 
Hyata said:
Your highend workstation cost a small fortune and will only be supported for a year maybe two. Then Apple will want you to buy a new one. As where the BYOS guy can upgrade his sytem indefinitly.

That's great that you pull in six figure's (that's alot of money for some people) but it doesn't make it alright to waste money either.
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i love how clear cut you make it sound. like your old mac pro stops working when a new system is released. You can't upgrade it to death, sure, but it still works and well.
 
Schizoid said:
in my 2008 Mac Pro, the 8800GTS went belly-up, bought a GT120 which was much much worse than the old 8800 (but cheaper)
Also bought a stock 5850 a few months ago, Mac OS hates it of course, but Windows 7 loves it! I had to buy a specific power cable from Apple service, it's a weird "normal" power on one end for the 5850 and a smaller plug on the other end, for connection to the logic board.
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Yeah I agree the GT120 is pretty worthless. I use it to drive a second display. I needed more than one DVI connection. The second display is where I keep all my non-graphic intensive stuff (Mail, Safari, iTunes). I use the 4870 for photo and video work.

I suppose I could upgrade to a single PC card with two DVI connections but I'm not really comfortable with the idea of flashing a graphics card. :eek:
 
hightechdave said:
Your hackintosh is cool, we get it. But no self-respecting pro is going to trade their Mac Pro for a hack job. Paying a $1000 premium for high end hardware is a no-brainer when you pull in six figures from it annually. There comes a point in some people's career when buying hardware that 'just works' outweighs any cost savings from rolling your own unsupported hardware.
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That's pretty well said.


The only other thing I might add is most people making six figures have to work hard to make those six figures; building a hackintosh would make it difficult for those people to make more than five figures.
 
doctor-don said:
You can run a cable that has DVI on the Mac Pro end and HDMI on the TV end. I bought several through Amazon for under $5.



WHY is it 'junk'? It is a 1GB card as opposed to the 512MB card currently / previously sold.
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Because it's slower than a 4870 or GTX260. Good luck trying to play DX11 games with a 5770. The GTX460 is the best midrange card on the market. It's a shame apple has turned their back on Nvidia considering Nvidia's cards are good for more than just games.
 
Hyata said:
That's great that you pull in six figure's (that's alot of money for some people) but it doesn't make it alright to waste money either.
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It's not a waste if it helps make those six figures.

Look at Al Gore - he has nothing but 30" dual Cinema displays on his Mac Pros - he's managed to fleece the world out of billions!
 
This is what I have been fearing about....
Apple throwing away graphic board support for Mac Pros bellow 2008.
They did this to 4870 and GTX285...

I'm beginning to hate Apple.
 
I make more money on one project than you'll make in your lifetime, but I'd never bring it up in an attempt to belittle somoene. People do that as a desperate last resort. Show some class.
 
Caviar said:
This is what I have been fearing about....
Apple throwing away graphic board support for Mac Pros bellow 2008.
They did this to 4870 and GTX285...
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Except that the 4870 actually works on every Mac Pro from 1,1 to current. So as long as they continue this form of unofficial support I will remain happy.
 
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