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"The next big thing is here...uh, yes, it's made by someone else...but we copied it first...and we're even going to try to patent it...with design drawings that we stole...and no that's not a Milanese loop band, it's a Loop Milanese band.
 
It's in there too.
It helps your case when you give the examiner as much background info as possible. This particular patent filing is related to smart bands or bands that provide additional functionality and their various connection methods. 99% of the people commenting will not bother to actually go and read the claims of the patent. They'll feign outrage and make wild claims of copying.

Why wouldn't the copied images be copyrighted by Apple? Why take the risk to f... up your patent application with illegally copied images?

Even if it's perfectly legal, it seems a really stupid maneuver. You're not trying claim there is some requirement that they use Apple's images, are you?
 
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Looked at already and it brings up a question: so does all of that come up in some sort of "references" type of section in a patent filing or anything like that,

All the images are put up front, if that's what you mean.

Let me be part of the 1% that merely find it ironic that Samsung thinks that a sketch of an Apple Watch is the most generic representation of a smartwatch.

Who says they did? There were plenty of other example illustrations, as anyone who looks at the patent can see.

this is why i hate samesung so much... they are always blatantly copying apple's design.

There's rarely anything new under the sun.

Perhaps we shouldn't tell you that Samsung patented a digital crown, along with their rotating crown bezel, back before even the iPhone was known.

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...said Filk Schmiller. VP of worldwide marketing for Samsung.
See? The quote's a little different than the actual one. That's why it's innovative.
Perhaps we shouldn't tell you that Samsung patented a digital crown, along with their rotating crown bezel, back before even the iPhone was known.
Hmm. That crown seems to replicate the function of an iPod more than that of an Apple Watch. For instance, you can only scroll with the digital crown on an AW, not select.
 
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There's rarely anything new under the sun.

Perhaps we shouldn't tell you

If "we" shouldn't tell us, then don't tell us. But we want to know: why are you using the royal we?

that Samsung patented a digital crown, along with their rotating crown bezel, back before even the iPhone was known.

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Samsung can patent things that they've now abandoned? Why is this impressive?
There are all sorts of stupid things that are patented. Here's one for a lawyer who patented swinging sideways on a swing. "We" think both of these should be filed away in the stupid patents file. Does your "we" think differently? :rolleyes:
 
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What if Samsung announced:

"BREAKING: SAMSUNG WILL NOW BE SELLING APPLE WATCH TO BOOST SMART WATCH SALE. PLEASE ORDER FROM WEBSITE. TANK YOU"
 
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It's in there too.
It helps your case when you give the examiner as much background info as possible.

This particular patent filing is related to smart bands or bands that provide additional functionality and their various connection methods.
99% of the people commenting will not bother to actually go and read the claims of the patent. They'll feign outrage and make wild claims of copying.

the ignorance is rampant in the comments on this site. check out my post history for more examples. glad someone else noticed it. cheers!
 
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If "we" shouldn't tell us, then don't tell us. But we want to know: why are you using the royal we?

Interesting that you would think that's what "we" referred to.

I was using it to refer to everyone here who already knew about it.

Samsung can patent things that they've now abandoned? Why is this impressive?

What's your question? Apple patents tons of things they never use.

Personally I think that Samsung didn't use a digital crown partly because they didn't want to be accused of copying Apple (even though Samsung had documented the idea first), and partly because a rotating bezel is the better choice.
 
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It's used for reference purposes.
Just about every patent submitted lists prior patents and images to give the examiner a frame of reference.
Samsung is not making any claim to the design in the application.
And as expected, the masses who know nothing about the filing process are already offended for Apple.....
Fine, but couldn't they have made some sketches of their own? Those submissions are literally exact copies of Apple's watchbands and mechanisms. It's beyond me how anyone can defend these shameless rip-off artists, who are even too lazy to make their own illustrative drawings.

Their components are top-tier, but some of their business antics ruin a lot of goodwill.
 
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It's in there too.
It helps your case when you give the examiner as much background info as possible.

This particular patent filing is related to smart bands or bands that provide additional functionality and their various connection methods.
99% of the people commenting will not bother to actually go and read the claims of the patent. They'll feign outrage and make wild claims of copying.

While I agree with you, it's not so wild when you consider how much Samsung copies Apple. I think if another company did the same, these posters wouldn't be as vocal.
 
Interesting that you would think that's what "we" referred to.

I was using it to refer to everyone here who already knew about it.

Everyone here always knows something, but only kdarling decides to use "we" to discuss it.

Don't do that. It adds nothing to the discussion. No usage guide anywhere says to use "we" this way. If you think you know something just use the singular. That's what "we" think. :rolleyes:

What's your question? Apple patents tons of things they never use.

My question was, "Samsung can patent things that they've now abandoned? Why is this impressive?"

Why did you think pointing out this patent was noteworthy? It was a rather pointless design, and it proves nothing. The discussion of the patent is a non-sequitur.

and partly because it's a worse input idea as compared to a rotating bezel. Reviewers seem to think so too.

Exactly. It wasn't used because it's a poor idea. We can agree on that.

"We" still have no idea why you thought this patent was noteworthy in this discussion. The fact that Samsung can patent worthless ideas doesn't justify lifting images from a copyrighted Apple materials. They might as well have patented swinging sideways on a swing.
 
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]It's used for reference purposes.
Just about every patent submitted lists prior patents and images to give the examiner a frame of reference.
Samsung is not making any claim to the design in the application.
I love that you copy and pasted the additional square bracket at the beginning of this post multiple times.
 
HOLLY HELL!!!!!! THEY HAVE FIGURED OUT THE SECRET OF THE WATCH BANDS!!!!!!!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

That was Apple's last secret....the magic of the watch bands. Now Samsung will have watch bands and news relating to watch bands with special release watch bands.

Remember this day.
 
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It's used for reference purposes.
Just about every patent submitted lists prior patents and images to give the examiner a frame of reference.
Samsung is not making any claim to the design in the application.

And as expected, the masses who know nothing about the filing process are already offended for Apple.

Where's the popcorn when you need it?
The masses who know nothing about the filing process gathered it up and are hurling it at Samsung.
 
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