Report Claims 4.7-Inch iPhone 6 Will Feature 2,100 mAh Battery

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Nope, read my previous comment. Apple aims for the vast majority making it a full day.

How do you know this? Because Apple said so? Apple also said a lot of other things: http://www.techlicious.com/blog/5-big-flip-flops-from-apple/

Shall I bring up the huge importance (per Apple) of "one-handed use" when Apple was taking punches at phones with screens bigger than 3.5" and then bigger than 4"? Is "one handed use" Apple "aiming for the vast majority" too or does "vast majority" only apply to this battery issue?

Personally, I doubt the "vast majority" make it a full day. I see some truth to the "wall huggers" Samsung TV ad (seen that very stuff first hand, and hugged a few walls in Airports with my Apple iDevices too). While I could certainly be in that .0001% you reference, my own, very subjective survey of friends, family, acquaintances, etc seem to generally view iPhone very favorably except for this one thing. Perhaps my circle is all in that .0001% too?

 

[Agent OrangeZ]

Oh look... another 4.7" iPhone part leak and no 5.5" part leak...

Like I have been saying over and over...

There will not be a 5.5" iPhone!

 

[zipa]

Or perhaps he's part of the population that uses his phone a lot until very late in the day and will have to charge the phone more than one time to satisfy such usage. Perhaps it's so mind-boggling for you to kinda understand that many people have such busy lifestyles, hence charging time is kinda important to them.

A small battery that recharges super fast is still slower and more bothersome than a big battery that doesn't need to be recharged at all.

 

[Piggie]

I've owned the old Nokias with 2 weeks between charges but that's not comparable to a smartphone imho. When I was a kid my family had a wall mounted phone that never needed charging so the Nokia phones was terrible in comparison.

I'm a iPhone user since release of iPhone 3G and I have tried several flagship Android phones. Comparing my current iPhone with these other smartphones is what I base my statement that my 5s has great battery time. If you want the definition of great to be a non existent product of your dreams or a 15 year old device that lacked every other feature than phone call I think you are the one who are unrealistic.

I am just disagreeing with the VERY modern, only past few years concept of a "WHOLE DAY" seeming Great for a mobile phone.

It is a dam shame that companies like Apple do not have the balls to actually offer people the choice.

Say you had a phone that was 6mm thick (most of it, not battery)
I would LOVE them to make another phone, the same but just 2mm thicker.
That 2mm would be all battery across the while size of the phone.

Say that offered 2, even 3 days. Cost a few more dollars and weighed a few more grams.

I'd love to see the sales numbers if people had the choice.

 

[JoEw]

If they give you a much bigger battery in the 6, then they won't be able to then sell you the 6s "with improved battery life"

When has this ever happened?

 

[zipa]

Omg someone with intelligent thought for once. Whether you end the day with 1% or 90%, you're going to charge it overnight

Why would I charge a phone that gets through 10 days on a charge nightly?

I think I get your point, though. That is, it doesn't matter how much charge you have left if you still need to recharge during the night to make it through the next day.

That's also why I'm rather interested in the new Lenovo Vibe with its stunning 6" display and 4000 mAh battery...

 

[doelcm82]

I am just disagreeing with the VERY modern, only past few years concept of a "WHOLE DAY" seeming Great for a mobile phone.

It is a dam shame that companies like Apple do not have the balls to actually offer people the choice.

Say you had a phone that was 6mm thick (most of it, not battery)
I would LOVE them to make another phone, the same but just 2mm thicker.
That 2mm would be all battery across the while size of the phone.

Say that offered 2, even 3 days. Cost a few more dollars and weighed a few more grams.

I'd love to see the sales numbers if people had the choice.

I hate the way Apple takes away most people's choice by not allowing them to buy external batteries or battery cases.
They gave me a choice (I even bought my external battery in an Apple Store), and it's great for those occasional times when I need it, but obviously other people are absolutely prevented from doing the same, and that's why they're complaining.

 

[SMIDG3T]

Oh look... another 4.7" iPhone part leak and no 5.5" part leak...

Like I have been saying over and over...

There will not be a 5.5" iPhone!

This.

People can't just accept the fact there isn't one!

 

[TallManNY]

How do you know this? Because Apple said so? Apple also said a lot of other things: http://www.techlicious.com/blog/5-big-flip-flops-from-apple/

Shall I bring up the huge importance (per Apple) of "one-handed use" when Apple was taking punches at phones with screens bigger than 3.5" and then bigger than 4"? Is "one handed use" Apple "aiming for the vast majority" too or does "vast majority" only apply to this battery issue?

Personally, I doubt the "vast majority" make it a full day. I see some truth to the "wall huggers" Samsung TV ad (seen that very stuff first hand, and hugged a few walls in Airports with my Apple iDevices too). While I could certainly be in that .0001% you reference, my own, very subjective survey of friends, family, acquaintances, etc seem to generally view iPhone very favorably except for this one thing. Perhaps my circle is all in that .0001% too?

But if the iPhone 6 has a 2,100 battery in it and some optimization programming, then I think one full day will be easy to meet for at least the first two years of the phone's life. That is a big increase in battery size.

 

[geo1378]

Wait a minute,you people saying the iPhone battery is bad and even some say its worse than the competition i ask you..have you really used the competitions phones? I had a note 2 and note 3 before going back to iPhone and my reasoning is that the android os is poor at battery life. It is horrendous and always has been, My gfs galaxy phone dies all the time and my iPhone goes on the whole day. iOS is by the far the best battery optimized os around just like the macbook air battery is great. Android is junk and the only reason i went to it is for the bigger screen but i also came running back eventually cause battery life and other things are more important to me. I am sticking with iPhone now. I learned my lesson using that junky os. It may even have slightly more features but there really aren't useful features i ever used either. iPhone os is well made, easy to use and does what i want and need. Your iPhone really should last u an entire day unless you don't work and have too much time on your hands. I guess if you use it all day for work too thats a good excuse but then you get some external battery or battery case or charger because no phone will last u through the day. if your just one Facebook 2 hours a day or something then just get a life

 

[till213]

Would suit you perfectly then.

... if I was a loser like you.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

Why would I need a source for something so completely obvious?

I see. So if something is subjectively obvious to anyone, the 99% claim can be slung. Now so much use of 99% claims slung around here makes great sense (not the claims themselves but their overuse to support whatever Apple says).

If iPhone battery life was a problem for the majority of users, Apple wouldn't sell record numbers quarter after quarter.

The benefits of iPhone outweigh individual user issues. THAT's why it has record sales. Those that wish is had this or that put up with the fact that it doesn't because of the rest of the benefits it does have. Record sales is a measure of the "whole". It doesn't mean it's perfection and no one should wish for any improvements based on personal wants. Else, why bother with the A8 or a better camera, etc if "record sales" says the A7 and the "as is" camera are "good enough"?

But if "record sales" is the determinant of "no problems", Android dominates the smart phone OS by far now, so, apparently, Android's "record sales" makes it the superior mobile device OS. Windows dominates as a computer OS, so, apparently, it's "record sales" makes it a superior computing OS. Etc. Let me guess, "record sales" won't apply to those arguments because "99% says iOS and OS X are the best OSs".

And like it or not, the thinness of the device, enabled by a very optimized OS and a just "normal" battery life, is a major design differentiator for Apple.

Once again, putting in a bigger battery doesn't require a thicker iPhone… especially in this shift to a wider and taller iPhone shell. If they retained the thinness of the 5s, there would be ABUNDANT space inside for more battery. If they thinned it a little, there would still be ABUNDANT space inside for more battery and those who desperately need a thinner iPhone 6 could get their want fed too.

None of the "we don't need more battery" crowd argues about the onerous thickness of the iPhone 5s. So "thinner" is a solution to what appears to be nearly no one's problem. On the other hand, there are many- even within this single thread- that want more battery life. That's a real, tangible problem or opportunity that Apple could most easily address in this taller & wider iPhone 6.

More battery has no effect on Apple's ability to deliver an "optimized OS", nor is there any loss of design differentiation either. Those kinds of suggestions- like the idea that the iPhone would have to get thicker to accommodate more battery- are just fluff or spin in an attempt to rationalize why Apple likely won't deliver on this one.

Apparently, your "99%" would rather have "thinner" over the tangible gain of longer battery life. However, I don't see that 99% griping about the thickness of the 5s, yet they apparently want a "thinner" 6 anyway.

 

[kenroberts83]

If you guys are having battery life problems, make sure you close your multitasking apps often. It just takes a double click of the home button, and a few swipes up. Also, if you're in an area of weak cellphone coverage, consider putting your phone in airplane mode. Otherwise it'll continuously search for a signal. You can really extend your battery life by quite a lot by being a little more intelligent about where your juice is going.

 

[geo1378]

also i am having a hard time believing in the 5.5 inch iPhone but i think it was in apples best interest to make one to make everyone happy. I have been disappointed in the iPhone since the iPhone 4s really so i am hopeful we get the two models but i just feel like only one will be introduced. that is one thing i don't get about apple. if i were in charge i would give a bit more choice and give people what they wanted 2-3 years ago and made a 4.5 or bigger iPhone. they waited way too long and lost of a lot of sales. also not making the apple tv into some type of gaming console is another big missed opportunity but less so than the iPhone size. i want the 5.5 inch model badly but i will settle for the 4.7 if i have no other choice only because i know iOS is worlds better than android

 

[ImpostorOak]

I hate the way Apple takes away most people's choice by not allowing them to buy external batteries or battery cases.
They gave me a choice (I even bought my external battery in an Apple Store), and it's great for those occasional times when I need it, but obviously other people are absolutely prevented from doing the same, and that's why they're complaining.

It absolutely blows my mind that people refuse to see the difference between buying a phone that comes 1-2mm thicker from Apple and having to use a battery case or carry around an external battery at all times. What is going on inside your head that you think those are reasonable solutions?

Apple's competitors are literally airing ads that make fun of how ****** iPhone battery life is, meanwhile you and Jony Ive won't stop until you have an iPhone that can chop vegetables.

 

[Cayden]

I would love a better battery life, but personally I have no need for one. I go to work at 5:00 stream iTunes Radio over wifi until 1:30, go home watch videos (YouTube mainly) over Airplay onto my Apple TV with my iPhone 5S, while surfing the web going on apps like Facebook, Instagram, iFunny, and others and I will usually end the night with about 20-30% around 10:30 at night. That's pretty heavy use and I always have LTE, cellular, and wifi on and it rarely dies during the day. I think a larger battery wouldn't affect a large majority of iPhone users and that's generally what Apple worries about. I don't think it's a debate over thinness and battery size I think it's over thinness AND the price of the different batteries for Apple. They are trying to get the biggest margins possible and this is just more money in their pocket

 

[zipa]

Oh look... another 4.7" iPhone part leak and no 5.5" part leak...

Like I have been saying over and over...

There will not be a 5.5" iPhone!

Don't think that it really matters. There just doesn't seem to be any way that Apple could match what the competition is releasing during the fall/winter. Apple is so far behind the big screen market that they might as well not even enter. I just can't believe that they would have anything to offer that would merit the insane prices that such a device would come with.

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If you guys are having battery life problems, make sure you close your multitasking apps often. It just takes a double click of the home button, and a few swipes up.

Umm... all that does is clear the list of recently used apps.

 

[HobeSoundDarryl]

But if the iPhone 6 has a 2,100 battery in it and some optimization programming, then I think one full day will be easy to meet for at least the first two years of the phone's life. That is a big increase in battery size.

Maybe, but it is likely to have a more energy-demanding (bigger) screen. Or not. None of us knows for sure.

I think the point is that while 2,100 is a bigger number that could mean a longer-lasting battery life, there was/is also opportunity in a wider and taller phone to put in an even bigger battery- like some competitors have demonstrated can be done in similarly sized phones- to strengthen the perception that longer battery life is on the way.

Personally, I'm suspicious… believing that Apple has chosen to once again go for maximizing thin over the utility gain of same thin with much more batter or a little thinner with much more battery. My guess is we're going to get the marketing spin combination of "thinnest iPhone ever" with "about the same battery life as the iPhone 5s".

What I'd love to hear instead is maybe nothing about "thinner" (I think the 4 was plenty thin enough myself) and something like "double the battery life of the 5s". Is double possible? I don't know. What I do know is that the phone is getting taller & wider and that creates a lot of space in which more battery could go. I know that third-party battery cases can add a little thickness to an iPhone and more than double the battery reserve. So I think if Apple decided it was important to significantly up the battery life, they could do it at or below the thinness (thickness?) of the iPhone 5s and probably get a double. Key words though are "Apple deciding it is important".

My skepticism is driven by the concept that "thin" has just about no unit cost for Apple vs. actually adding more battery. And Apple knows a lot of the primary fan base will passionately argue for "thin" against the practical utility of more battery life because that's the way Apple wants it to go. If there was a genuine demand for "thinner", there should be lots of people- even here- faulting iPhones 5s as being too thick. Try to find such posts anywhere here.

 

[andromeda107]

Why would I charge a phone that gets through 10 days on a charge nightly?

I think I get your point, though. That is, it doesn't matter how much charge you have left if you still need to recharge during the night to make it through the next day.

That's also why I'm rather interested in the new Lenovo Vibe with its stunning 6" display and 4000 mAh battery...

Um yeah.. I meant with current battery tech. Of course when batteries can last days to weeks that is totally different. Still though, you'd charge it overnight (no, not every night); you'd just never run out of battery life.

 

[Isamilis]

Report Claims 4.7-Inch iPhone 6 Will Feature 2,100 mAh Battery

Huh? I don't even remember Apple talking about battery life at the 5S event.

Yeah I'm sure the 6S or whatever it's called will have improved battery life over the 6. It's called progress, not artificially limiting a product so you can make the next generation look better.

It's not only the progress but they want to reserve "big" thing for the next iteration. Otherwise people will less likely to upgrade and buy the new one. Technology wise I think adding more battery capacity is much easier than crafting the sapphire glass for the screen.

I feel Apple start loosing their creative innovation like before (iTunes, iPad and MacBook Air for example). At this point, increased battery life will be considered especially with the bigger screen and new iOS 8.

 

[iolinux333]

And the iPhone would be still be 12mm thick and would weigh 170g if people like you were in charge.

There should be this option. iPhone MAXX. People would line up for it

 

[andromeda107]

How do you know this? Because Apple said so? Apple also said a lot of other things: http://www.techlicious.com/blog/5-big-flip-flops-from-apple/

Shall I bring up the huge importance (per Apple) of "one-handed use" when Apple was taking punches at phones with screens bigger than 3.5" and then bigger than 4"? Is "one handed use" Apple "aiming for the vast majority" too or does "vast majority" only apply to this battery issue?

Personally, I doubt the "vast majority" make it a full day. I see some truth to the "wall huggers" Samsung TV ad (seen that very stuff first hand, and hugged a few walls in Airports with my Apple iDevices too). While I could certainly be in that .0001% you reference, my own, very subjective survey of friends, family, acquaintances, etc seem to generally view iPhone very favorably except for this one thing. Perhaps my circle is all in that .0001% too?

Tell me every detail about all of your settings and I'll help you get that full day.

 

[MH01]

technology evolves should everything stay the same thickness? they will continue to get smaller thats just what happens.

You missed the point of design over form.

Evolution of technology does not mean thinner. That is only in the apple world.

Naturally devices get smaller over time, in case if apple they sacrifice functionality at the sake of thinness.

What exactly is wrong with a little thicker And longer battery life??? Does a few mm make the iPhone crap??

Frankly I think Ives is going to far with his obsession with thinness .

 

[andromeda107]

It's not only the progress but they want to reserve "big" thing for the next iteration. Otherwise people will less likely to upgrade and buy the new one. Technology wise I think adding more battery capacity is much easier than crafting the sapphire glass for the screen.

I feel Apple start loosing their creative innovation like before (iTunes, iPad and MacBook Air for example). At this point, increased battery life will be considered especially with the bigger screen and new iOS 8.

No offense but you, myself, and every single other person who's posted on these forums is not an engineer at Apple that works specifically on battery tech. Having said that, absolutely none of us know why Apple chooses the batteries the way they do. It is a huge variety of reasons though. Heat, weight, longevity, mAh, discharge time, charge time, thickness, volume, safety, among many other things I'm unaware of.

 

[Carlanga]

Don't care about the actual capacity, but actual real world performance with the software/hardware integration. I don't have too much problem with my 5 now though but this should make it even better.

If it is 2000 and the phone will have a bigger screen it will consume even more battery, and if they up the quality of the screen and use more powerful hardware it will consume even more. At the end it's probably a modest increase of battery life IF any.