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i haven't asked, but law firms aren't as tech centric as other type of business, my boss is still using mac mini from 2014, and his boss is on the same iphone 7 as me. i believe we have a use it til its broken policy.
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well the latest fiasco i know about is apple slashing prices in china heavily boosting trade in policy.
Yeah, not sure where he got his data; Apple market share in smartphones is dropping; #3, I believe, soon to be 4. The financials were boosted by services.

While I don’t think this is a big deal (due to the way the hardware and software - at least on a reasonably new iPhone - work together, there’s no dispute that perception is reality and people, through the Tech Press, are learning how Apple lags in specs, and over time that has to hurt sales. As an iOS-only dev, that worries me a little.
 
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One doesn't judge how bad a company is by the good things they do, but by the bad. "How can that man be a mass murderer? He bought my kid an ice cream cone!"
That's quite a bad analogy. If you're allegedly doing anything to malevolently cripple older devices in order to drive sales, it doesn't make a lot of sense to go out of your way to ensure 8 year old devices keep working properly. That's what I'm getting at.

Besides, Apple admitted to slowing down iPhones with worn batteries. Then when it was reported, they were initially silent about it but eventually, on threat of a class-action lawsuit, they admitted it. This is their typical approach to things... only admit something when they're caught red-handed. That is not behavior that I find laudable.
Seems you didn't understand at all what that whole battery drama was about. Basically, Apple prevented iPhones with badly worn batteries from randomly (as the user perceives it) shutting off. That is at it's core a good thing and prolongs the usable life of devices. The issue with it all was mostly a communications one. But that has been discussed ad nauseam around here over a year ago.
 
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Money is on 4GB......2020 will see a bump to 6GB while others OEM are at 8GB or more.
 
Yeah, people leave Apple and flock to Huawei don’t they? Apple sells the whole package and is a leader in silicon. iPhones have longer usable lives than Android counterparts because of Apple’s software support and great silicon. Proof? Look at the secondary market for 2-3 year old iPhones versus unsupported and slow Androids.

We don’t have hard data to back claims like this, but there are an estimated 200M iPhone 6 and below still in use. I find it hard to believe these phones are slow and unusable. iPhones actually last too long in some sense.

Anecdotally, I know several people with iPhone 6 and they don’t want to upgrade because it’s “fine.” These non real world tests of opening 30 apps at a time have no application in reality. 1GB of RAM is probably enough for a lot of people.

User base continues to grow, so competition still haven’t figured out what keeps iPhone users happy with Apple....because they are just that, and not switching.
Judging by the rise of Huawei phone sales and drop in iPhone sales, people definitely are flocking to Huawei. Also, people there might be multiple reasons for people to stick who older phones (like iPhone 6). One of the important ones is that they do not want to spend $1K on a phones (and some may simply not have the money). It is very likely that when they have to upgrade, many won't go with iPhone anymore.
 
Think they would have mentioned 6GB if they were going to bother having different amounts in different models.
 
Judging by the rise of Huawei phone sales and drop in iPhone sales, people definitely are flocking to Huawei. Also, people there might be multiple reasons for people to stick who older phones (like iPhone 6). One of the important ones is that they do not want to spend $1K on a phones (and some may simply not have the money). It is very likely that when they have to upgrade, many won't go with iPhone anymore.
No, they aren’t...at least not iOS users. Android users might be, but iPhone user base continues to grow. Samsung sales have dropped significantly, far worse than Apple. Huawei hurts other Android phones, not so much iOS.

Apple users literally don’t switch platforms. They may indeed hold on to their phones longer, but industry leading satisfaction and growing iPhone user base means they are NOT switching. These are facts.

Your opinion isn’t based on the facts. Higher Huawei sales doesn’t mean switchers from iOS, particularly when you see Samsung and Google plummeting. Even Google’s CEO talked about poor Pixel performance because of increased competition and slowing flagship sales.
 
How about MacRumors contacting Apple on our behalf to verify the actual specs and posting it back here for its members? This would avoid the angst and mudslinging amongst the members here.

That wouldn’t be Mac Rumors, that would be Mac Facts, and Mac Rumors doesn’t deal in fact, apparently.
 
Yeah, people leave Apple and flock to Huawei don’t they? Apple sells the whole package and is a leader in silicon. iPhones have longer usable lives than Android counterparts because of Apple’s software support and great silicon. Proof? Look at the secondary market for 2-3 year old iPhones versus unsupported and slow Androids.

We don’t have hard data to back claims like this, but there are an estimated 200M iPhone 6 and below still in use. I find it hard to believe these phones are slow and unusable. iPhones actually last too long in some sense.

Anecdotally, I know several people with iPhone 6 and they don’t want to upgrade because it’s “fine.” These non real world tests of opening 30 apps at a time have no application in reality. 1GB of RAM is probably enough for a lot of people.

User base continues to grow, so competition still haven’t figured out what keeps iPhone users happy with Apple....because they are just that, and not switching.
I have friends who still use the iPhone 6. I ask isn't it time to upgrade and they're like, why. I just had a friend who upgraded from an iPhone 5 to the XR. Not because the 5 was running slow or anything like that. He dropped it cracking the screen.
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That wouldn’t be Mac Rumors, that would be Mac Facts, and Mac Rumors doesn’t deal in fact, apparently.
Apple doesn't answer questions like this. They put out what information they want. I'm sure you knew that though
 
That's quite a bad analogy. If you're allegedly doing anything to malevolently cripple older devices in order to drive sales, it doesn't make a lot of sense to go out of your way to ensure 8 year old devices keep working properly. That's what I'm getting at.


Seems you didn't understand at all what that whole battery drama was about. Basically, Apple prevented iPhones with badly worn batteries from randomly (as the user perceives it) shutting off. That is at it's core a good thing and prolongs the usable life of devices. The issue with it all was mostly a communications one. But that has been discussed ad nauseam around here over a year ago.
“The issues...was mostly a communications one”. That is I suppose one way of describing the act of deliberately keeping key information from phone owners resulting in many people giving up a good working phone and forking out substantial cash to buy a new one.
 
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Something tells me the signs are pointing to 4GB since Apple did not make a point to announce a new ram upgrade.

Or they might just be embarrassed to announce 6GB when Samsung is offering 12 at the same time.
 
No, they aren’t...at least not iOS users. Android users might be, but iPhone user base continues to grow. Samsung sales have dropped significantly, far worse than Apple. Huawei hurts other Android phones, not so much iOS.

Apple users literally don’t switch platforms. They may indeed hold on to their phones longer, but industry leading satisfaction and growing iPhone user base means they are NOT switching. These are facts.

Your opinion isn’t based on the facts. Higher Huawei sales doesn’t mean switchers from iOS, particularly when you see Samsung and Google plummeting. Even Google’s CEO talked about poor Pixel performance because of increased competition and slowing flagship sales.

The Pixel suffered because it had an outrageous 2-line notch that made everyone who looked at it vomit uncontrollably
 
Seems you didn't understand at all what that whole battery drama was about. Basically, Apple prevented iPhones with badly worn batteries from randomly (as the user perceives it) shutting off. That is at it's core a good thing and prolongs the usable life of devices. The issue with it all was mostly a communications one. But that has been discussed ad nauseam around here over a year ago.
I am well aware of the situation. If Apple's motives were so pure they wouldn't have felt the need to keep it a secret. They would've told customers who came in complaining about slowdowns on their phone that they should just replace the battery rather than convince them to buy a new iPhone. But you are free to believe Apple's explanation.
 
Get back to us when a new iPhone stumbles because it’s got less RAM than an Android does.
 
The Pixel suffered because it had an outrageous 2-line notch that made everyone who looked at it vomit uncontrollably
True...I own Googl shares, but they flat out suck at making hardware. Great business overall, incompetent at hardware design and should give it up and focus on monetizing data.
 
God forbid a company tries to make a profit lol. Yes I'll agree that Apple could increase the base model to 128 GB for about $50 more but that means all those customers who never used more than 64GB would be paying extra for nothing. The alternative is customers who actually need more can add it. I'm going with allowing me the choice every time.
Or even better.

Have a microsd slot and allow people to add a 128, 256 or 512 GB card as they see fit.
 
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This can go either of two ways:

1) iPhone Pro has 6GB of RAM to assist in tasks such as three-way video recording and "audio zoom"

2) iPhone Pro has only 4GB and can do those tasks just as fine - showing that 4GB was overkill for the XS.
 
No, they aren’t...at least not iOS users. Android users might be, but iPhone user base continues to grow. Samsung sales have dropped significantly, far worse than Apple. Huawei hurts other Android phones, not so much iOS.

Apple users literally don’t switch platforms. They may indeed hold on to their phones longer, but industry leading satisfaction and growing iPhone user base means they are NOT switching. These are facts.

Your opinion isn’t based on the facts. Higher Huawei sales doesn’t mean switchers from iOS, particularly when you see Samsung and Google plummeting. Even Google’s CEO talked about poor Pixel performance because of increased competition and slowing flagship sales.
That's just your wishful thinking. The reality is very different:

Of 38,000 people who've traded in iPhones since October 2018, 73% have migrated to a later model, according to a BankMyCell report cited by CNET. Apple's peak loyalty was 92%, achieved in 2017. Retention is in fact down 15.2% this year versus March 2018, and 26% of people trading in an iPhone X switched to another vendor.

Conversely, only 7.7% of Samsung Galaxy S9 owners picked up an iPhone — and 18% of the iPhone owners who left the platform chose a Samsung device.


Source
 
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Are they going to 6GB RAM for the third camera? That’s what I’m thinking. Also, it will make the phones future proof. Aren’t they making IOS 13 the first OS that requires 2GB? IPhone 5s and 6 can no longer upgrade.
 
That's just your wishful thinking. The reality is very different:

Of 38,000 people who've traded in iPhones since October 2018, 73% have migrated to a later model, according to a BankMyCell report cited by CNET. Apple's peak loyalty was 92%, achieved in 2017. Retention is in fact down 15.2% this year versus March 2018, and 26% of people trading in an iPhone X switched to another vendor.

Conversely, only 7.7% of Samsung Galaxy S9 owners picked up an iPhone — and 18% of the iPhone owners who left the platform chose a Samsung device.


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BankMyCell is just one trade-in service of many however. Its data also conflicts with CIRP research issued in January, which pointed to loyalty rates of 91% for iPhones

So, your source also points out conflicts in other data.

In the end, 38,000 phones and a natural bias in only looking at people using one trade in service is not definitive data. It clearly doesn’t speak for the overall market, because the iPhone user base has grown, fact.

Also, Samsung sales (as they have reported) have plummeted, so not sure what benefit they’ve received from Apple switchers.
 
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