Well if that's the scenario and the argument you want to propose - I'll state that I hope that you can't swap out and that anyone who wants to buy a white iPhone after returning theirs has to wait to get their white one as you said. Maybe after not having one for a few days - or better weeks when they sell out) people will understand what being patient means.
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Return black to get white iPhone?
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Well if that's the scenario and the argument you want to propose - I'll state that I hope that you can't swap out and that anyone who wants to buy a white iPhone after returning theirs has to wait to get their white one as you said. Maybe after not having one for a few days - or better weeks when they sell out) people will understand what being patient means.
Who buys a phone only to return based on it not being the colour you wanted, even with the knowledge that the other colour was coming?
Even worse is the number of people who wanted one but couldn't get and you're not even gonna keep it.
I don't understand this mentality.
In modern parlance it's called "self-entitled." In psychological terms, it's Piaget's "Pre-Operational" developmental stage -- roughly equates to the mind of a 2-7 y.o. where thought is egocentric and ability to empathize or understand other viewpoints has yet to be developed.
Of course those returning their black phone b/c they want white will tell you that it's their right for one reason or another. They prove the theory for themselves. So don't judge people swapping out black for white they can't help it as they are socially and cognitively underdeveloped.
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Another fine paper thin thread on MacRumors. Crap topic, holier than thou replies, and the 47 millionth useless poll in the past month alone. I'm increasingly embarrassed to participate here. I feel like an old man at a middle school playground.
Another fine paper thin thread on MacRumors. Crap topic, holier than thou replies, and the 47 millionth useless poll in the past month alone. I'm increasingly embarrassed to participate here. I feel like an old man at a middle school playground.
I'm not making an argument for or against. I'm merely stating facts. The fact is, you can return the phone for being unsatisfied with the phone for ANY reason. All you have to simply tell the Apple rep is that you are unsatisfied with the phone. You could just as well be unsatisfied with it because it's too slim and return it. I was just saying people can get around Apple not letting them "exchange for color reasons."
I really don't care what people do with their phones.
Doesn't matter if or when they announced the white iphone. If you wanted a white one - you/anyone could have waited.
Buying one with the knowledge that you won't be "satisfied" and that you are just renting it until the one you want becomes available is wrong. It is NOT what the return policy/etc was designed for. It's taking advantage. And you can argue that Apple has a lot of money in the bank, etc whatever - but that doesn't make it any more right.
If I steal $100 from a beggar or a millionaire - the crime is the same. And no - I am not saying that you're stealing. Just pointing out that cheating is cheating.
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Originally Posted by Chupa Chupa
In modern parlance it's called "self-entitled." In psychological terms, it's Piaget's "Pre-Operational" developmental stage -- roughly equates to the mind of a 2-7 y.o. where thought is egocentric and ability to empathize or understand other viewpoints has yet to be developed.
Of course those returning their black phone b/c they want white will tell you that it's their right for one reason or another. They prove the theory for themselves. So don't judge people swapping out black for white they can't help it as they are socially and cognitively underdeveloped.
Exactly.
Originally Posted by Chupa Chupa
In modern parlance it's called "self-entitled." In psychological terms, it's Piaget's "Pre-Operational" developmental stage -- roughly equates to the mind of a 2-7 y.o. where thought is egocentric and ability to empathize or understand other viewpoints has yet to be developed.
Of course those returning their black phone b/c they want white will tell you that it's their right for one reason or another. They prove the theory for themselves. So don't judge people swapping out black for white they can't help it as they are socially and cognitively underdeveloped.
Exactly.
LOL at all the people arguing over the technicalities of returning a black iPhone for a white one.
Apple will not care. They will sell the black iPhone you return as a refurb and will get another iPhone sale when you buy the white one.
Apple gets money, customer gets iPhone he/she wants. Win-win situation.
Apple will not care. They will sell the black iPhone you return as a refurb and will get another iPhone sale when you buy the white one.
Apple gets money, customer gets iPhone he/she wants. Win-win situation.
No, in your response to me you were stating that I wanted to return my black iPhone for white one. Nowhere have I stated that. I was merely pointing out facts that people can and will get around the issue and also explaining why some people sold their phones right before pre-orders. Like I said, I would not recommend it but people did so based off of what Apple told them.
Those that sold their phones made a choice. And should take responsibility for that choice rather than making it someone else's problem.
Exactly. I don't care what people want to do one way or the other. It does not affect me. I do however find comedy in these anonymous internet posters making these holier than thou comments, admonishing others while they probably have a closet full of skeletons. Last I remembered no humans were "perfect".
In what way? Sure, Apple won't be able to sell the black one as a refurb for the full price, but they'll still get a profit, and the white iPhone the customer buys will cost the full price.
So, again, what's the big deal?
And Apple should take responsibility for saying, the white iPhone will be available to pre-order this date! Oh wait no it wont!
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We salute you Mr. blockerofthetradingoftheblackforawhiteiphoneinterwebpolice
Women, Beer, a life you crave not these things. Your main task in life is to put a stop to these horrible fraudulent returns.
Sing: Off with their heads.
Yes deep down inside you know you have the blue tights on under your clothes. Nothing makes you feel more powerful than stopping this tyrant of the trades.
Sing: I need my phone booth.
So grab an ice cold Bud Light my good protector of the cell phone. We are certain that the internet is a safer place for our children because of you!
This message has been brought to you from BadMoons (BLACK) iPhone which he would never trade for a fairy colored white one anyways.
We salute you Mr. blockerofthetradingoftheblackforawhiteiphoneinterwebpolice
Women, Beer, a life you crave not these things. Your main task in life is to put a stop to these horrible fraudulent returns.
Sing: Off with their heads.
Yes deep down inside you know you have the blue tights on under your clothes. Nothing makes you feel more powerful than stopping this tyrant of the trades.
Sing: I need my phone booth.
So grab an ice cold Bud Light my good protector of the cell phone. We are certain that the internet is a safer place for our children because of you!
This message has been brought to you from BadMoons (BLACK) iPhone which he would never trade for a fairy colored white one anyways.
Er... actually, it is EXACTLY like buying clothes then returning them later.
Only, in your scenario, the store was advertising the tux in black and in white. You wanted white (summer wedding and all), but come opening day, all they had was black.
Soo... you bought black. You wore it all over town. You then found out that white was coming available later. Nevermind that the big event has passed (launch for the ip4/wedding for the tux example).... you demand to have what you went to buy in the first place and are irate that you HAD to buy something you didn't want.
In truth, when you found out they didn't have white, you could just as easily have made do with another option (borrow a white tux from your friend/use an old GSM phone for another month).... you chose to purchase a brand new (popular) item just for the sake of having it on launch day.
I won't go blaming the lack of a white iPhone on Apple until they announce that they're scrapping the whole thing for this year and they won't even sell a white version.
Puh-leeze.
Spin it however you like. You just leased a phone for a month. That's all you've done.
I didn't want a black one. I wanted white. So, I waited.
I don't mind waiting to purchase the phone I wanted to purchase.
What's a month? It's just a phone. I've got my 3GS to keep me company, all loaded up with iOS4.
XD Funny how people are so gullible these days, dont worry im still here and yeah im still exchanging my phone, so.... whats up?
I'll bet you 10 million pesos you will not be allowed to exchange a black phone for a white one
I think that maybe (or I could be giving out entirely too much credit here) the people who are on the "why shouldn't I return it? it's all Apple's fault!" bandwagon are unintentionally overlooking the large number of customers who did wait for the white phone, and who will be out attempting to purchase one when it finally launches.
Okay, so in your mind, Apple has it coming to them, but do all of the people who waited have it coming to them to have to deal with even longer lines full of people attempting to do exchanges/returns/trades/etc. when white launches?
What did any of them do to you?
What about all of those who specifically wanted black on launch day, but couldn't get one because someone who wanted white (but were ticked off at Apple and therefore bought a black to "borrow" for awhile) took the last phone from their local store and they had to go home emptyhanded?
I mean, maybe they also sold their ip4 before launch?
I swear, sometimes it feels like people just do NOT think about other people at all.
It's one of those "I've got mine, who cares about yours" things.
And it's really rather sad.
Okay, so in your mind, Apple has it coming to them, but do all of the people who waited have it coming to them to have to deal with even longer lines full of people attempting to do exchanges/returns/trades/etc. when white launches?
What did any of them do to you?
What about all of those who specifically wanted black on launch day, but couldn't get one because someone who wanted white (but were ticked off at Apple and therefore bought a black to "borrow" for awhile) took the last phone from their local store and they had to go home emptyhanded?
I mean, maybe they also sold their ip4 before launch?
I swear, sometimes it feels like people just do NOT think about other people at all.
It's one of those "I've got mine, who cares about yours" things.
And it's really rather sad.
I'm somewhat concerned by the amount of people who are equating the application of logic and ethics to this topic as being a "holier than thow" attitude. It's really not a difficult concept, but apparently some people are very good at justifying their actions and are defensive where their character comes into question. Lots of things that you are capable of doing legally are still unethical and sometimes just plain rude, just because you can do something doesn't mean you should, etc, etc.
/ so called "holier than thow"
/ so called "holier than thow"
Exactly. It is sad. Like people who reserved phones in 87 places to make sure they got theirs ON LAUNCH DAY. It's a phone - not a kidney.
I would respect these types of people a little bit (just a little) if they at least owned up to their decisions instead of justifying them. If someone said - I'm a selfish person who has no patience it would at least be "something." But no - they try and place the blame on someone/something else.
No one thinks anyone else is perfect. So why try and act it?
Yanno, there was a person in one of these many threads about white who said something very much like that. I probably should've given that poster credit for being honest.
You could always just blame them for not stating it clearly enough. If they had stated it exactly the way you wanted then you would have given them more credit. You know - put the blame one someone else besides yourself. It seems to be all the rage LOL
That's the thing, I don't disagree that having the intenion of buying a black iPhone only to exchange later for a white one is not really morally correct, but Im not going to come onto these forums and admonish other people who are going to do that. I think its plain stupid to do so because I bet you if no one was watching, if those same people who are coming on here and admonishing others find a $100 bill on the ground in the middle of a street, they are going to pocket it and not turn it into the police. I will also bet that those same people have made an immoral or unethical decision or move at some point in their life and they will in the future. No one is perfect so stop acting like you are.