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iPad mini rMini Image Retention Problem-Tested
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Thanx.
5 min is more than enough to conclude ;-)
But is it a Wifi only or a LTE/Cellular ?
It seems that most of the LTE/Cellular models are subject to IR.
Wifi only models seem quite safe...
5 min is more than enough to conclude ;-)
But is it a Wifi only or a LTE/Cellular ?
It seems that most of the LTE/Cellular models are subject to IR.
Wifi only models seem quite safe...
asdfgbg
macrumors regular
Thank you.
My 2 cents again:
So a first screens type used by Apple suffered from yellow tint/uneven and quite "muted" colors.
See:
https://discussions.apple.com/message/23781929#23781929
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1683321/
This type of screen seems less used...
A second type give a nearly even screen with more vibrant colors, but seems to suffer from IR, especially on LTE/Cell models.
Some users have already exchanged their LTE/Cell rMini 5 or 6 times ans still have IR.
So I've a question:
Why the LTE/Cell (specially 64 and 128) are obviously more heavily subject to IR ?
Even if this "technical limitation" is nearly unoticeable under normal use, I'm just curious to understand... 🙂
Anyone?
Sorry for you 🙁
This is another typical problem of the iPad screens I forgot to mention in my previous posts...
I've had this problem on a lot iPads. If the problem was to visible, I had the iPad replaced.
I've triple checked my rMini for this and it's hopefully Ok...
However, as you've a Wifi only model, you've far less chance to have your replacement (if you choose to replace) affected by IR or uneven screen.
asdfgbg
macrumors regular
If I choose the option "Replacement" on the apple site, will I get a new unit or a refurbished one ?
You should call Apple support to explain and arrange a replacement.
As you just received your rMini, they should send you a brand new one.
Later, usually, the people on the phone cannot guarantee you it will be a new one (they have instructions about this).
But, from my experience, at the launch of a new product, the refurbs are not yet available and Apple send new units.
Btw, from my experience again, refurb units look exactly as new ones, and are as good as new ones, even sometimes better because the QC is more strict on them.
From what I know, Apple takes appart the rejected iPads and use only validated internal parts to completely reassemble refurb iPads. All external parts are new.
Hope this helps...
Definitively my last post in this thread... A little story similar to some posts...
Yesterday my mother came with its iPad 4.
Her and my father are using it heavily since more than one year now, as well as myself for "support" ;-).
They are specially happy with the speed and the quality of the retina screen (even colours, vivid, no taint, no dead pixel).
They never complained about the product quality, display or other...
And true, it's a great device...
By curiosity, I quickly and discretly did the Marco test: same IR than the rMini.
Of course I told nothing to my mother.
Conclusion: since at least more than a year, Apple heavily use a retina screen type that could be reviewed like this:
PROs: even taint, vivid colors, no bleeding... Happy users 😉
CONs: technical limitation: some image retention NOT visible during normal use
Now you are aware... This IR-gate should stop... It's incredible all this buzz for nothing...
Enjoy your rMini and forget about perfection... 😎
Yesterday my mother came with its iPad 4.
Her and my father are using it heavily since more than one year now, as well as myself for "support" ;-).
They are specially happy with the speed and the quality of the retina screen (even colours, vivid, no taint, no dead pixel).
They never complained about the product quality, display or other...
And true, it's a great device...
By curiosity, I quickly and discretly did the Marco test: same IR than the rMini.
Of course I told nothing to my mother.
Conclusion: since at least more than a year, Apple heavily use a retina screen type that could be reviewed like this:
PROs: even taint, vivid colors, no bleeding... Happy users 😉
CONs: technical limitation: some image retention NOT visible during normal use
Now you are aware... This IR-gate should stop... It's incredible all this buzz for nothing...
Enjoy your rMini and forget about perfection... 😎
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Radeon85
macrumors 68000
I am currently on my 3rd rMini 128gb cellular. The first two had very bad backlight bleeding even in dim lighting with the brightness as low as 20%, as well as half white, half yellow.
Apart from that there was no image retention issues, dust or dead pixels. Both week 47.
My third one, week 41, has a very decent uniform display, no dead pixels or dust but has very severe image retention problem.
I didn't even run the test on my third one, just playing GTA San Andreas for 2hrs and I noticed some after image while loading. Had a look at the retention test page and I see a perfect image of the on screen controls.
I left the iPad off for 12hrs, went straight to the grey image and even though the image had faded by 90%, the on screen controls outline were still visible 😡
Very disappointing.
This issue it certainly easy to see during normal use, just open the YouTube app and scroll on the grey side bar, I can still make out the game controls. Thankfully this issue though is only visible on a dark grey background. Off to Apple once again. Costing me a fortune in fuel as my nearest one is 30 miles one way, plus on every exchange they never have any there so I have to go home and then back again once the order comes in.
So that's around 120 miles for each exchange, at this rate I could save the money used on fuel to buy another one 😡
Apart from that there was no image retention issues, dust or dead pixels. Both week 47.
My third one, week 41, has a very decent uniform display, no dead pixels or dust but has very severe image retention problem.
I didn't even run the test on my third one, just playing GTA San Andreas for 2hrs and I noticed some after image while loading. Had a look at the retention test page and I see a perfect image of the on screen controls.
I left the iPad off for 12hrs, went straight to the grey image and even though the image had faded by 90%, the on screen controls outline were still visible 😡
Very disappointing.
This issue it certainly easy to see during normal use, just open the YouTube app and scroll on the grey side bar, I can still make out the game controls. Thankfully this issue though is only visible on a dark grey background. Off to Apple once again. Costing me a fortune in fuel as my nearest one is 30 miles one way, plus on every exchange they never have any there so I have to go home and then back again once the order comes in.
So that's around 120 miles for each exchange, at this rate I could save the money used on fuel to buy another one 😡
HeliTeknik
macrumors member
Buy it online and save fuel like me... No need to go to store. TNT comes right to the door to pick up the device.
For those who say this is a nonissue that is not noticible with normal use...
Radeon85
macrumors 68000
Went to Apple, they seen the issue and agreed to change it straight away, as I guessed they had no replacements available once again, so it's another trip to collect it and 50/50 whether it's a good one or not.
Here is a better image after gaming. Horrible, and after 12hrs off, I can still clearly see the ghosting 🙁
For the ghosting to completely clear, it took around 30hrs.
Here is a better image after gaming. Horrible, and after 12hrs off, I can still clearly see the ghosting 🙁
For the ghosting to completely clear, it took around 30hrs.
HeliTeknik
macrumors member
30 hours ??????? It is more than 1 complete day ! How many hours did you play the game ?
Radeon85
macrumors 68000
Just 2 hrs.
The image I last posted above is what I showed apple and that's what it looks like after at least 2hrs. The last two images I posted is what it looks like after 12hrs. But yes, it really does take almost 30hrs to fully clear on mine.
I don't rally want to change it as I have a very decent screen, if the retention only lasted 30mins, even an hour I wouldn't mind. But long gaming sessions is usless due to the very long time it takes to fade.
Week 48 F4KL here and no IR. Week 47 one that had other problems had IR after only 45 secs of the Marco test.
It seems definitly that only LTE models are affected.
Bud the sound issue (very low and no bass verus the original mini) affects all mini retina models..
HeliTeknik
macrumors member
Today I got my 6th device and ghosting again 🙂
I am currently using my 5th device and request for the 7th device for the replacement of 6th device.
5th is the right ones. You see the yellowish screen on the left and also unevenness on the screen.
I am currently using my 5th device and request for the 7th device for the replacement of 6th device.
5th is the right ones. You see the yellowish screen on the left and also unevenness on the screen.
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If anyone is interested, try this:
Test the iPad for IR right after you turn it on. Use it for an hour or so, and retest. Checking to see if a warmer screen reacts faster (returns to normal) faster.
The reason I am interested is this: I returned one for an excessively yellow band. The second had a white screen, but I tested IR and it was relatively bad. But I decided to keep it as the color was nice. But now when I test for IR, I really think I get less than I did initially. (Of course, I should have taken a photo . . .)
If anyone is interested, try this:
Test the iPad for IR right after you turn it on. Use it for an hour or so, and retest. Checking to see if a warmer screen reacts faster (returns to normal) faster.
The reason I am interested is this: I returned one for an excessively yellow band. The second had a white screen, but I tested IR and it was relatively bad. But I decided to keep it as the color was nice. But now when I test for IR, I really think I get less than I did initially. (Of course, I should have taken a photo . . .)
And so it continues DQTLR week 48= IR.
Was this an in store purchase? The serials are completely different. Really glad you got a good one 🙂
Was this an in store purchase? The serials are completely different. Really glad you got a good one 🙂
Max(IT)
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I think you, like many others, had just read this thread too much ... 🙄
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Can't see anything worthing a return in those screens.