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Rogers Announces iPhone Plans in Canada

Does anyone know if the bottom tiered plan comes with unlimited incoming local minutes? I have 150 minutes per month with unlimited local incoming, unlimited evening and weekends etc, for a Moto Q.

Can't see that anywhere on the site....
 
jonnysods said:
Does anyone know if the bottom tiered plan comes with unlimited incoming local minutes? I have 150 minutes per month with unlimited local incoming, unlimited evening and weekends etc, for a Moto Q.

Can't see that anywhere on the site....
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not a chance in hell of that being the case
 
slicecom said:
I haven't been able to find it on their website, but I figured it would cost extra, so I asked Liz Hamilton (Rogers PR for the iPhone) and she told me it would cost $8 and would be optional.
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Lol wow, in other words, "use our money gouging iPhone plans or else prepare for more price gouging".
 
slicecom said:
I haven't been able to find it on their website, but I figured it would cost extra, so I asked Liz Hamilton (Rogers PR for the iPhone) and she told me it would cost $8 and would be optional.
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Thanks. I edited my original post.
 
Chef Medeski said:
Thats funny. But it is true that for text messaging they use a pretty archaic form. I mean like that article shows its 140 bytes per text, at the 9kbps that you need for voice, thats 15 seconds worth of talking to send a text.
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Uhh... check your math. 9 kbps = 9000 bits per second = 1125 bytes per second (ignoring overhead), so 140 bytes would take round 0.12 seconds. You're off by a factor of about 100. :)

-b
 
RebelScum said:
See it's this kind of backing down on the consumers' part that cos like Rogers are hoping for.

the prices are launched and people everywhere are outraged about high rates and unfair data/voice plans.

Now I'm reading the phrase "I wouldn't mind paying more for (a fair data cap)."

Not that anyone needs reminding, but the only reason rogers charges so very much to ration its data is because it CAN. There is no fair reason for them to be rationing data at such miniscule rates. 400 MB is ridicuous to p[ay anything more than $10/month for, at that's being generous, considering Bell has a $7/month unlimited data plan that applies to the HTC touch.

Data is data. Rationing it in this day and age is borderline criminal. We're talkig about a company that recently instituted a cap on its monthly HOME internet service, changing the rules of a contract signed BY ITS CUSTOMERS with no warning or discussion.

The ONLY thing that would be fair is if all iPhone plans included an extra 100 mins, unlimited data, and call display.

If they really want to include a cap, then raise the $60 and $75 plans to 1gb and the other 2 to 2GB. Add an extra 100 mins to all plans, include call display, drop the prices by $10/mo, and waive the SAF. THAT would be digestable.

Anything less is exploitation of the masses in its purest form.

And I'm not gonna be bought off with a "First 3 months unlimited calling free" carrot, Rogers. I see you're making changes to your rates already. A shame you aren't listening to what the people actually want.
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It is hardly backing down to say that I would expect a fair data cap for a reasonable price. You have your criteria for what you would consider fair, I have mine and others that theirs.

While I would obviously like an unlimited data plan and unlimited voice minutes and every other feature for free, I am realistic and don't expect that. I do expect that I should be able to add data to my existing voice plan. My issue with the announced iPhone packages is that they all result in a significant loss of features to my existing plan. Buying a new phone should not mandate that I lose features by requiring a new voice plan. While there are many that are howling for unlimited data, I am more concerned about the phone functionality of the iPhone. I want reasonable rates on data, because that is an important part of the iPhone experience, but voice features are still the primary role and reason for me to buy a cell phone.
 
That ruined iPhone petition is also a list of future clients for future new GSM providers in Canada.

As others mentioned earlier, the long 3-year contract could be a way to slow down customer defection to possible new providers in the coming years.

Here are some extracts from a recent article on the ongoing Canadian Wireless Spectrum Auction:

The Canadian Press said:
Bidding in Canada's wireless spectrum auction hits $4 billion
Jun 23, 2008

MONTREAL — Bidding reached $4 billion on Monday in an online auction aimed at creating more competition in Canada's cellphone market, surpassing early expectations of the amounts of money involved…

It shows the importance of the cellphone market and the belief that there's money to be made despite Canada's challenging geography and spread-out population, said Levy of Toronto's AR Communications Inc…

The auction means competition from other players for the three established cellphone players: Rogers Communications Inc. (TSX: RCI.B), Telus Communications Company (TSX:T) and BCE's Bell Mobility Inc. (TSX:CE).

The big three players were leading bidding on Monday, but they can't bid on the 40-megahertz of spectrum specifically reserved for new players in the cellphone market…

Goldberg said the new players, who can bid on all of the spectrum, are helping drive up prices.
"Their business plans still appear to be able to support the prices," said Goldberg of Toronto-area Mark Goldberg and Associates Inc. "It means that they must have some interesting and innovative services to offer for consumers."…

Consumers could also see some innovative pricing following the auction and likely more competitive prices and choice next summer…

Added Goldberg: "I'd say by next summer consumers are going to have more choice and more choice tends to mean more flexible price plans."…

Levy said Globalive, backed by European and Egyptian telecom companies, could emerge as the country's fourth major carrier…

The federal government has said the proceeds would be used to pay down the national debt…
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Garemz said:
I just went by At&t's sight and they say there is a one time $18 fee, I read somewhere Rogers is charging us $35 Double At&T.

Can someone confirm this.
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Not sure about AT&T, but Rogers does have a one-time $35 fee listed on their website.

*A $6.95 monthly System Access Fee (non-government fee), a monthly 50¢ 911 Emergency Access Fee (non-government fee) and a one-time $35 Activation Fee apply in addition to the monthly service fee.
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cere said:
It is hardly backing down to say that I would expect a fair data cap for a reasonable price. You have your criteria for what you would consider fair, I have mine and others that theirs.
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When the precedent has been set and the new standard is XX data for XX dollars, and our ubiquitous single-player GSM provider decided to do something completely different...in this case, charge more for much much less, then yes, expecting anything less is caving.

But you're not caving. You just have it in your head what you want, which isn't what the rest of us want. You just want more minutes, because you don't plan to use the data portion of the phone. Which begs the question: Why get one in the first place? Get an HTC Touch from Bell.

Or do you just WANT one?
 
To suggest that you should go with bell and an HTC touch because people actually want to use the device as a phone is ignorant. I personally have been carrying an ipod touch around with me everywhere I go for the ipod features, but for the first time, I'm actually relying on it as an organiser and contacts list. When version 2.0 opens up I expect to see really useful software for my business. I've been holding out on a cell phone until now but I will have to buy one. My options are essentially a blackberry from any canadian carrier but then I have to lose the functionality of the ipod/iphone interface OR buy an iphone with an upgrade voice plan and a downgraded data plan. That to me would work but ideally I want more voice and more data...ie. in line with AT&Ts plans (which Roger's promised they would provide only 2 weeks ago).
 
snowy2004 said:
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...Which brings me to show you the Rogers Flex Plan. Your monthly cost changes between $50 and $100 according to your usage. You can get anything from 500MB to 5GB while paying $0.03 per MB if you go over.



Yes, you're still getting screwed by Canadian cell companies. But look what happened : Rogers just got nudged. They changed their mind and added value to their offer less than a week after announcing the iPhone plans. There's still 10 days before you can even get an iPhone. Constant (non-zealous) pressure until then might make them become more flexible.
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But the flex plan doesn't have voice... so for reasonable minutes you are paying 30 per month, plus a value pack, plus SAF plus 911... so it is still for the Cheapest option (for me) over 100 per month, which is extremely high!
 
Stupid question

But I'm not shy about asking.

Haven't been able to access the ruinediphone.com site for the past few days. Is it possible (since I'm a Rogers customer) that they've simply blocked that site so that their customers can't get to it?

I tried accessing it from another out of country proxy and can get to it with no problem.

If that is the case, this is the most nefarious evil bunch of bitches ever to run an ISP and...as well as not buying an iPhone from them, will immediately switch to another ISP just as soon as I can.
 
wolfshades said:
But I'm not shy about asking.

Haven't been able to access the ruinediphone.com site for the past few days. Is it possible (since I'm a Rogers customer) that they've simply blocked that site so that their customers can't get to it?

I tried accessing it from another out of country proxy and can get to it with no problem.

If that is the case, this is the most nefarious evil bunch of bitches ever to run an ISP and...as well as not buying an iPhone from them, will immediately switch to another ISP just as soon as I can.
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One way to easily find out is if anyone on Rogers that can access the site, let everyone know. Also, you might want to try www.ruinediphone.com instead of ruinediphone.com.

I'm on Telus and the site has been back up for me since 2 days ago.
 
Xyl said:
One way to easily find out is if anyone on Rogers that can access the site, let everyone know. Also, you might want to try www.ruinediphone.com instead of ruinediphone.com.

I'm on Telus and the site has been back up for me since 2 days ago.
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I'm with Rogers. It wasn't working the past couple days, but its seems to be working now.

P-79
 
Xyl said:
One way to easily find out is if anyone on Rogers that can access the site, let everyone know. Also, you might want to try www.ruinediphone.com instead of ruinediphone.com.

I'm on Telus and the site has been back up for me since 2 days ago.
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Thanks for the quick response. I tried it - it's up.

I still think they're the most nefarious evil bunch of bitches ever to run an ISP of course. Which is why I'm about to sign now.:D
 
Project-79 said:
Another site:

http://www.davidmcguinty.com/english/Take_Action/Petition_The_House/Petition_C_555_Frais_d_acces.html
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Interesting Bill.

In regard of our iPhone/Rogers issue, I especially like those two points:

2 a) a prohibition against the levying of any additional fee or charge that is not part of the subscriber’s monthly fee or monthly plan rate

3 (a) (iii) (iii) to stop locking cellular phones to a specific provider such that they cannot be used on another provider's network
 
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