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I am curious what running Windows on Apple Silicon in, say, VMware Fusion will be like (if it's a thing at all).
AFAIK, Microsoft does not sell Windows on Arm (WoA) licenses to individual users yet. They only license it to their partners for OEM devices. Therefore, we don't even know if it'll be possible to use WoA on Apple Silicon for a while.
 
AFAIK, Microsoft does not sell Windows on Arm (WoA) licenses to individual users yet. They only license it to their partners for OEM devices. Therefore, we don't even know if it'll be possible to use WoA on Apple Silicon for a while.

I’m sure someone will find a way, at some point. 🤓
 
AFAIK, Microsoft does not sell Windows on Arm (WoA) licenses to individual users yet. They only license it to their partners for OEM devices. Therefore, we don't even know if it'll be possible to use WoA on Apple Silicon for a while.

Right, lots of unanswered questions.

Microsoft might be interested in a collab with VMware, though.

Orrrrrr they could revive Virtual PC for Mac (which sort of continues to exist as Hyper-V).
 
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This is your imagination! Engineers at Intel are excellent scientists !! Sorry, so you were not a very good engineer, scientist, if you say that about your colleagues.

P.S. The amount of software written for ARM is very, very small! A huge amount of software has been written for the x86 architecture!! Only RISC architecture is the past !! Hybrid architectures are popular now!!! Symbiosis of CISC and RISC architectures is the future which are Intel processors!!!

Those are not my colleagues. I didnt work at intel. I simply designed better chips than them.

P.S.: there are literally 2 orders of magnitude more apps written for Arm than for x86.

There is no such thing as a hybrid architecture, by the way.
 
I’m sure someone will find a way, at some point. 🤓
It's more of a question about drivers rather than getting the ISO file from somewhere. VMware or Parallels need to come up with WoA drivers for Apple Silicon and honestly I don't really see that happening unless Microsoft decides to support WoA on Apple Silicon devices. Since there is no Bootcamp announced as of yet (and maybe it never will), Microsoft would probably need to collaborate with some VM company to make WoA on Apple Silicon some sort of reality.
 
Right, lots of unanswered questions.

Microsoft might be interested in a collab with VMware, though.

Orrrrrr they could revive Virtual PC for Mac (which sort of continues to exist as Hyper-V).
Virtual PC could be quite interesting, if it could yield an x86(64) “PC” running an older Windows at a decent clip, say good enough for old games.

WoA doesn’t hold huge interest for me, unless a lot of interesting developers jump on porting their apps to WoA but not to macOS (on Apple Silicon). If WoA running on Apple Silicon just became a way to run the “Windows” version of MS Office, instead on the Mac version, that’s not interesting enough to care.

And, yeah, it’s amusing watching cmaier debating (using that word charitably) an uninformed cheerleader armed only with mountains of exclamation points. A bit of a taste of King Arthur vs The Black Knight.
 
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Yeah 🍿 It's quite funny to watch someone with bunch of expertise like cmaier respond to someone else who can't see past x86 architecture due to refusal to change. Change is already here and it will affect us all. The only question is how long will it take for developers to offer proper AArch64 version of their apps. Hopefully it won't take that long 🤞
This change will lead to the death of the Mac platform! Stop the ARM!!
 
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Those are not my colleagues. I didnt work at intel. I simply designed better chips than them.

P.S.: there are literally 2 orders of magnitude more apps written for Arm than for x86.

There is no such thing as a hybrid architecture, by the way.
Wong!! 80-90 procent software and professionl software writing for Intel platform!!
 
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Actually, i would like to see X86 gone forever. Its an old architecture and CISC does not cut it anymore. RISC is the future.. ARM, like PowerPC before is the future. Tim Cook may not be the future though.
 
Actually, i would like to see X86 gone forever. Its an old architecture and CISC does not cut it anymore. RISC is the future.. ARM, like PowerPC before is the future. Tim Cook may not be the future though.
Correct. In fact, I think there’s actually something slightly evil about anyone who advocates for x86. It’s suspicious. It makes me wonder what other character flaws such people possess.

I mean, let’s think about it.

You start with the Intel 4004. It was made to be used as a calculator. Then you go to the 8008, which was meant to be used in simple microcontrollers. 8080 inherited all the bad design decisions from those two chips. 8086 added more memory support (which, of course, being CISC, and given the time period, was not designed with thought of caching, virtual memory, and modern memory hierarchy thoughts in mind).

80186 - complete and utter failure.
80286 - all the same bad design decisions are still there.
80386 - first real improvements (most with respect to addressing), but still has all that baggage.
80486 - yep, more of the same.
80586 - ditto. CHange the name!
x86-64 - 64 bit. The guy who first designed the integer 64bit extensions is a genius, but the rest of it? Yuck! ;-)
Meanwhile Intel is off with Merced/Itanium, which was another disaster.

Yeah, its awful.
 
Correct. In fact, I think there’s actually something slightly evil about anyone who advocates for x86. It’s suspicious. It makes me wonder what other character flaws such people possess.

I mean, let’s think about it.

You start with the Intel 4004. It was made to be used as a calculator. Then you go to the 8008, which was meant to be used in simple microcontrollers. 8080 inherited all the bad design decisions from those two chips. 8086 added more memory support (which, of course, being CISC, and given the time period, was not designed with thought of caching, virtual memory, and modern memory hierarchy thoughts in mind).

80186 - complete and utter failure.
80286 - all the same bad design decisions are still there.
80386 - first real improvements (most with respect to addressing), but still has all that baggage.
80486 - yep, more of the same.
80586 - ditto. CHange the name!
x86-64 - 64 bit. The guy who first designed the integer 64bit extensions is a genius, but the rest of it? Yuck! ;-)
Meanwhile Intel is off with Merced/Itanium, which was another disaster.

Yeah, its awful.
I have not read such nonsense yet!! Sorry bat that stupidity
 
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Actually, i would like to see X86 gone forever. Its an old architecture and CISC does not cut it anymore. RISC is the future.. ARM, like PowerPC before is the future. Tim Cook may not be the future though.
x86 will never go away !! She keeps changing !! She showed that pure RISC architecture is wrong !! Only hybrid Itel processors based on RISC and CISC are the future !!! Steve Jobs is a genius and remember why he switched to x86 processors from PowerPC
 
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