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Do people really notice the difference between a new iPhone if they get the new version year after year? I’ve not owned one before but the differences must be minimal surely ?

For a long time now I've felt that year over year is relatively minimal change. You start waiting 3 years to upgrade and then you'll notice some significant change. Which to be honest, I think is what 99% of people do.
 
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For a long time now I've felt that year over year is relatively minimal change. You start waiting 3 years to upgrade and then you'll notice some significant change. Which to be honest, I think is what 99% of people do.

I am thinking, strongly considering even, upgrading from my iPhone X bought on day 1 in 2017 to the iPhone 14 this year...most likely the Pro...we shall see...

The iPhone X is starting to show its age...and I had to get its battery replaced. And even with a replaced battery, the phone still doesn't seem to hold onto its charge that long either...
 
That's a joke, right?

Your phone is not a status symbol.


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That is priceless.
You never disappoint.
Exactly, maybe when installments didn't exist it may have been. Macbooks are more of a status symbol to me. I can get a 17" PC laptop that does what i need for a third of the price. iPhones to me are worth it
 
It's true, but misleading as well. The base or cheapest model (mini) was $699 so you could get on the newest line at that price. While the cheapest this year is $799
 
A product should cost exactly as much as people are willing to spend for it.
The iPhone, as the most successful product on the planet, is perfectly priced.

Kinda depends on the demand curve that their supply chain can handle and the best combination of price and unit demand that would net them the best over all profit margin.

That can sorta be a guess but it's a mature enough product at this point that they probably have that dialed in, along with estimating current economic factors like inflation will have on this years demand, which likely will shrink because of current rapid inflation.

Many interested buyers for this years model may need to save more for food and gas, impacting their ability to afford new iphone.
 
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I mean if rumors end up being true it's just a rehashed Iphone 13 so price shouldn't go up.
 
Not increasing the prices for the flagships during recession is just a smart thing to do. It will also be interesting to see what happens to the prices of iPhone 13 and iPhone 12 once iPhones 14 are out.
Don't get your hopes up. Rumors are a $100 increase on the "pro" models.
 
I'm definitely most curious to see when they drop the SE or offer a better budget phone.

I can't see them doing it with the iPhone 13 mini unfortunately.

Hell, just look at the 12 mini pricing today - it's only $50 below the 13 mini @ 256gb and nearly 2 years old!.

I could see Apple using the 12 mini as the basis for a next generation SE. The second and third generation SE are largely based on the iPhone 8 which was originally $699 for 64GB in 2017 or approximately what the 64GB 12 mini was at launch ($729) in 2020. A mini-based SE would have a larger display (5.4" versus 4.7") than the last two SE phones and could be a logical future choice.
 
No one with actual knowledge has said there won't be an iPhone 14 Mini.
True, but if you do think there was going to be an iPhone 14 Mini, and this article says the starting point of the iPhone 14 lineup was $799, then there would in fact be a $100 price hike compared to the previous years starting lineup.
 
I'm guessing there will be a storage bump in late 2023 for the iPhone SE (entire line-up starts at 128GB), then a mini-based redesign in March/April 2025 (after the 13 mini exits the line-up).
 
The president's grand idea was to give everyone a thousand dollars a months for not even God knows how long and hope rampant inflation wouldn't happen? It's like thank you for giving me a thousand dollars every month, but now I can't spend it on anything because it's practically monopoly money with how worthless it is now.
 
I am thinking, strongly considering even, upgrading from my iPhone X bought on day 1 in 2017 to the iPhone 14 this year...most likely the Pro...we shall see...

The iPhone X is starting to show its age...and I had to get its battery replaced. And even with a replaced battery, the phone still doesn't seem to hold onto its charge that long either...

The iPhone X was the only phone I kept for longer than 1 year. I upgrade every year otherwise (which is really unnecessary). But the X, when I look back, that still is absolutely my favourite iPhone ever. I got sucked in by the new cameras on the 11 Pro at the time, but I would have happily kept using the X.
 
you have to wonder what component cost differences there are between an iPhone 13 mini, iPhone 13 and a hypothetical iPhone 13 max? It’s certainly not $100 between each in the actual Bill of Materials, so regardless Apple likely makes much less profit on the mini and would make more on the max. Now it makes sense why Tim hates my precious mini. *sniff*
 
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Key word in the economy these days is “inflation” and it effects everyone including Apple. Which translates into a price hike to the customer.
 
What do you mean "justify" it? The last time Apple sold an iPhone with a similar size screen to the mini was the 8 Plus and that was $799 for 64GB at launch. How would Apple justify selling a 13 mini with 128GB storage for half that price? $399 would've been too low to make the phone worthwhile and would’ve cannibalized a lot of sales from higher priced, higher profit models. Even the older tech, smaller screen 64GB SE is priced at $429.
They they have made enough money on the 12 chassis where its not costly to make. Just like how they have been using the iPhone 6, 4.7 inch screen chassis to make the iPhone SE the same can be done for the Mini. Which why I think the iPhone 12/13 mini chassis will be repurposed for the next iPhone SE. I'm sure they are not gonna charge $699 for a SE. So again, they can justify it, they just choose not to.
 
They've probably run some sales predictions and worked out that the majority of people will be getting the new regular 14 plus size so they can afford to take the margin hit on the regular 14.
 
you have to wonder what component cost differences there are between an iPhone 13 mini, iPhone 13 and a hypothetical iPhone 13 max? It’s certainly not $100 between each in the actual Bill of Materials, so regardless Apple likely makes much less profit on the mini and would make more on the max. Now it makes sense why Tim hates my precious mini. *sniff*

He may also "hate" it because of the reportedly low sales. Stronger sales would at least make up for a lower profit margin.

 
They they have made enough money on the 12 chassis where its not costly to make.

That could be said about other 12/13 models but to price the mini at just $399 would unnecessarily cannibalize a lot of sales from other higher profit models. It would be a mistake.



Just like how they have been using the iPhone 6, 4.7 inch screen chassis to make the iPhone SE the same can be done for the Mini. Which why I think the iPhone 12/13 mini chassis will be repurposed for the next iPhone SE. I'm sure they are not gonna charge $699 for a SE. So again, they can justify it, they just choose not to.

I agree that the mini would be a logical choice for a next generation SE (as I stated in post #137) but that's at least a couple of years away. A $399 mini price today wouldn't make sense especially since the current even older tech, smaller display SE with 64GB is $429.
 
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Is the camera system much larger on the Pro?
The 11pro cameras is shallower than the 13mini cameras, and the footprint of the rectangle looks about the same.
 

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