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Am I the only one with ****** Bluetooth reception on my 4K Apple TV? With AirPods I can’t even move to a neighboring room :-(
 
I'm wondering what could make this an appealing update to Apple TV 4k owners.
Well for me personally, I like when a new :apple:TV comes out because then I can hand down my current one to my mom who doesn’t necessarily need (or care for that matter) to have the fastest thing available. I, however, do care about such things. It’s been a good system the past couple generations!
 
Sounds like possible bluetooth / wifi interference with your smart tv, or (very unlikely) the result of your HDMI cable being connected to the non-4k port on your TV.
I don't know what you are talking about.

Properly mastered and encoded 4K material has beautiful blacks on my Apple TV 4K with LG OLED, including from Apple TV +.

I’m referring to this:https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/picture-quality-and-apple-tv-4k.2209521/

I did try to find the picture on my phone, but I couldn’t so had to send my post about it.
 
Think I’ll get one for Netflix, AppleTV and creating a digital library.

I watch a lot of YouTube and having it in 4K is a must, so I’ll keep using my Sony TV app for that
 
There could be a lot of reasons for upgrading the previous generation.
I want to be able to play my own Dolby Atmos files in infuse which I cant right now.
4k YouTube but that could be done on the current machines.
Plex server with usb support for an external hard drive.

I mean apple could do a Plex server on these if it wanted to and just blow out the Shield. I have both but I prefer the interface of apples by far to the shield blurry in comparison interface.
Does nobody use music apps on their devices? Appletv's music is the prettiest looking music app ive ever seen compared to any other device and that is pretty huge to me. Every other music app ive used on other devices is a generic unpolished app that's just garbage. User interface really makes me enjoy using something that much more.

Also using Plex on the shield its just not as nice and there's a stupid flash startup screen that's just ugly every time I play a movie or show. I use infuse all the time its beautiful and I think the picture compared to both systems is still better in infuse than on the 2019 shield.
I don't think people notice little details in UI like I do and I appreciate them a lot. It makes me want to use a device over another one with unpolished feeling apps like everything on the shield.
I also run Kodi on my appletv and its faster than on the shield already.
 
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Honest question: I own a much older 2nd Gen Apple TV, but just bought a Smart TV with Airplay 2.... So.... What’s my incentive to buy another Apple TV?

Netflix and Plex are built-in already, so I’m good there. The privacy policies are dodgy, but I’ve opted out of the data collection. Am I missing anything?
 
This is an immediate buy for me if it has a new remote that’s actually designed for the human hand. YouTube 4K (VP9 codec support) would be a plus too.
 
What *I* need from the new Apple TV is:

1. 10G ethernet. Yes, some of us actually have 10G ethernets in our home (I even have my 2008 and 2009 AND my 2008 xServe retrofitted).
2. Improved device count. Right now I can have a maximum of 5 Apple TV's on my network. Adding a sixth causes it all to go to hell. This is a software bug, not a hardware bug, and now if they support 10G AND have a faster processor, there is no reason for them to have this stupid hardware limit (and for those of you who think I'm in overkill... 3 bedrooms, a living room, kitchen, and downstairs mother-in-law apartment with 2 more Apple TVs - good thing I don't have a mother-in-law).

sounds like what you need is another router so you can add six more. Easy fix
 
Upgraded hardware is always nice, but I don’t know what this could offer to existing Apple TV 4K owners besides maybe upgraded graphics for gamers?
I really doubt there is much difference in cost between a 4K HDMI output and a 1080p HDMI output. The only other thing you need for 4K is a chip that can decode it and an OS that handles it- both of which you’re asking for in an updated 1080p Apple TV, so such a device would be unnecessarily gimped to have it only output 1080p
 
“TV Deep Fusion” would make me upgrade. Obviously it couldn’t work exactly like the iPhone Pros, but using that processing power to add detail and reduce digital noise from the picture would be great. The current 4K box already does a pretty good job - here in the U.K. I often find BBC content from the Apple TV app (720p) looks better than the 1080p broadcast image. Our TV experience these days is such a mix of resolutions and bit rates, having the Apple TV really focus on boosting the picture quality would be great.
 
Please re do the remote - the old one before the touch pad was really easy to use

Plus gaming - can we have some games that look like they came from a ps3/4 not a SNes ?

So much potential in that little box untapped ...
 
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Hope theres more to entice buyers than a faster processor...... my 4k is already fast enough

This is great news. It hopefully means the current ATV4K will drop in price, so I can pick one of those up instead and move my current ATV4 to my top floor while enjoying 4K finally on my ATV.
 
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“TV Deep Fusion” would make me upgrade. Obviously it couldn’t work exactly like the iPhone Pros, but using that processing power to add detail and reduce digital noise from the picture would be great. The current 4K box already does a pretty good job - here in the U.K. I often find BBC content from the Apple TV app (720p) looks better than the 1080p broadcast image. Our TV experience these days is such a mix of resolutions and bit rates, having the Apple TV really focus on boosting the picture quality would be great.

Intelligent upscaling could help with streaming lower resolution content onto 4k TVs. Could very much be a win for people playing back their own 1080p content.
 
I’m referring to this:https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/picture-quality-and-apple-tv-4k.2209521/

I did try to find the picture on my phone, but I couldn’t so had to send my post about it.
Looks like a dithering issue with your TV, due to a software incompatibility. This doesn’t happen with my TV.

This does not need a hardware upgrade on Apple TV to fix. It is a software issue, and could be fixed with either an update to the Apple TV, to your TV, or both.

Unfortunately, IIRC, Toshiba doesn’t always have the best record when it comes to TV firmware updates.
 
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I have the current Apple TV 4K and also the 1080P version before that. If the new one is convincing enough to buy, I'll move my current ATV4K to the bedroom and give the 1080P to one of my kids.

We will just need to wait for more information.
 
There could be a lot of reasons for upgrading the previous generation.
I want to be able to play my own Dolby Atmos files in infuse which I cant right now.
4k YouTube but that could be done on the current machines.
Plex server with usb support for an external hard drive.

I mean apple could do a Plex server on these if it wanted to and just blow out the Shield. I have both but I prefer the interface of apples by far to the shield blurry in comparison interface.
Does nobody use music apps on their devices? Appletv's music is the prettiest looking music app ive ever seen compared to any other device and that is pretty huge to me. Every other music app ive used on other devices is a generic unpolished app that's just garbage. User interface really makes me enjoy using something that much more.

Also using Plex on the shield its just not as nice and there's a stupid flash startup screen that's just ugly every time I play a movie or show. I use infuse all the time its beautiful and I think the picture compared to both systems is still better in infuse than on the 2019 shield.
I don't think people notice little details in UI like I do and I appreciate them a lot. It makes me want to use a device over another one with unpolished feeling apps like everything on the shield.
I also run Kodi on my appletv and its faster than on the shield already.
But what’s the chance that the new TV will have ANY of that? I’d guess zero.

TV must have at most 1 developer. Every year NOTHING happens, even with software. At most you get a new screensaver.
 
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Is there any reason to get an Apple TV if you have a Smart TV or a Roku stick?

Genuinely asking.

Aside from Airplay, I can't think of any exclusive features that are useful (in a general sense).

Both of our TV's have an Apple TV setup as the main device. It's so simple to use that my 3 year old, who rarely watches tv, was able to show my 70 year old mom how to use it. The ATV wakes up the TV when it turns on, the soundbar is always on and volume is controlled by the ATV remote.

Probably would be more complicated if we had a cable box or other inputs to mess with.

I like the photo screen saver on the ATV, simple interface, and ability to easily watch movies stored on our iMac. Recently one of the ATVs died and I've been using the xbox and built in smart TV apps. I can get most of the same functionality but it's not as slick or easy for the rest of the family to use.
 
There could be a lot of reasons for upgrading the previous generation.
I want to be able to play my own Dolby Atmos files in infuse which I cant right now.
This is not a hardware issue. It's mainly a DRM/licencing issue.

4k YouTube but that could be done on the current machines.
This is a business choice, again related to licencing etc., something that Apple and Google have constantly be fighting about. AFAIK, it won't get fixed anytime soon regardless of what the hardware is.

Plex server with usb support for an external hard drive.
Not gonna happen, because 99% of the Apple TV buying population doesn't care. I certainly don't care about this, and Apple doesn't care either.
 
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