It’s just an update to make it support more recent hardware nothing wrong with that, still the best streamer on the market quality wise.
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Rumor Suggests New Apple TV 4K With A12X Chip is 'Ready to Ship'
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If it looks like a decent upgrade I will certainly purchase and put the ATV4K into another room in the house. Right now we only have one. Hope it releases soon.
The location you want your loudspeaker isnt only under the TV. And not everyone who wants to buy a media plater wants a new loudspeaker.
All 3 of mine are on the 5GHz network, but when I say slow. It's not that streaming isn't quick or anything network related, I more so mean navigating the UI. Choppy, usually delays, stuff like that. Sometimes it's fine, sometimes its' bad.
You know you can use PS4 and Xbox controllers on it, right? Plus, Nimbus controller is pretty good too.
Yep. I mentioned this earlier too - the UI sometimes lags. Not a deal killer, but I'm a little surprised given that it is A10X and people do far more complex things on their A10X iPad Pros.
Streaming 4K is perfectly fine though.
Could this be related to memory? I'm thinking it could be because I noticed the lag disappeared for a while after a reboot.
True, I do a reboot here and there and it generally fixes the problem. Either way, a new one tempts me, but probably a silly reason to invest in a new Apple TV.
Could you explain? I use my Apple TV through my TV -> Receiver for surround sound, so I assumed this was already possible.
I believe they are referring to the pass-through of lossless audio, which is not possible on the current gen ATVs. Currently, the ATV will convert to standard 7.1/5.1. For example, if you had a Plex server with a movie running DTS:X or Dolby Atmos, you will not get lossless audio to your receiver. It will be mixed by the ATV before the signal is sent down to the receiver.
For all of the remote hate - and I get it, I don't really like it either- Does anyone just put the remote aside, and use the Apple TV remote app built in to the iPhone? Is that any better, or are there third party solutions out there for the missing link?
I'm probably in the minority but I still rip all of my music to ALAC files and rip blu-rays for use in iTunes. My household is deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem and it makes for a smoother experience using the ATV's to access my movies and music. Like others have stated, the only reason I could see somebody interested in this update is for gaming and the possibility of an improved remote.
That said, there needs to be some major improvement in Homesharing. I do have to restart the ATV's and iTunes often to get things working properly. However, I know Apple doesn't care about Homesharing because they want people to stream and buy through the store.
That said, there needs to be some major improvement in Homesharing. I do have to restart the ATV's and iTunes often to get things working properly. However, I know Apple doesn't care about Homesharing because they want people to stream and buy through the store.
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I mainly use my phone. I don’t have to look at with navigation around things either because the button placement is so good. Having the quick control on the lock screen of whatever is playing is super nice too.
I'd fully expect a 'Magic' Remote to have been dreamed up in the labs somewhere but I'd rather Apple saved a few dollars and just put the old Mark 3 Remote back in there. They could plough the savings into adding more standard RAM to the AppleTV instead.
Salt were allowed to make their own remote for the AppleTV for their customers in Switzerland so you have to assume that Apple are aware of the complaints about the Siri Remote which is also available separately in the Apple Store.
If the AppleTV is going to be aimed at games they'll want to make the Mark 6 as good as they can. 6Gb RAM to start with seems obvious as any A14X based refresh seems certain to include 6Gb of RAM too.
They need to include a usb port that can be used with webcams. Yep, it’s time for zoom, FaceTime, Skype and more via Apple TV too
not really unless you plan to use airplay to send video/audio to your TV IMO. I like the interface of the apple TV more than my smart TV's or Roku's interface but that's simply b/c i'm more used to the ATV not b/c it's better.
My primary reasons:
-most smart TVs do not currently support eARC (used to send audio back to the receiver) meaning the audio from the tv to your sound system will be compressed. It still sounds fine but if you invested in a nice sound system, you’ll want to hear that uncompressed sound.
-Airplay for most TVs*
-iPhone keyboard typing in almost all menus... I hate hate hate typing with the tv remote
-gaming? Steam link is pretty darn useful, though far from perfect
Honestly, the list of reasons is becoming shorter and shorter. ive been holding out for an update to the 4K model due to the rumors. I have a decent sound system so using my tv as a streaming device is not ideal.
*By the way, some new smart TVs feature airplay, my Samsung q80 does for example.
I jumped on the Apple TV bandwagon primarily because my Smart TV at the time was dreadfully slow. Not waiting 5 minutes for a show to start on Netflix was worth the price of admission to me.
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I feel like your response was meant for someone else. I never said I wanted an updated 1080p Apple TV, but as I recall someone did.
This is a really expensive device for something that does basically what is included in smart tvs now days, gaming consoles, and all smartphones. You only need an option to stream from your phone to the big tv and thats it.
Don't understand why this even exist at least in this form, it should be closer to a dongle like Chromecast.
What happened to V9?
Why does Apple favours paying for HEVC than using AV1 for free?
Don't understand why this even exist at least in this form, it should be closer to a dongle like Chromecast.
What happened to V9?
Why does Apple favours paying for HEVC than using AV1 for free?
I use my Apple TV for more than what a smart tv can offer. Plus I get the added incentive of privacy.
Some if the advantages are; Apple Arcade, Photos, configuring DNS and adding the BBC / Channel 4 apps, speed, UI, screensavers, etc.
I know a few friends who’ve had smart TVs for a while and recently added an Apple TV due to apps not available. I have a projector so no smarts built in for me.
I also love the Siri remote, don’t have an issue with it.
I don't dispute that Apple TV is significantly more expensive than popular competitors, most of which are priced well below $100.
Having said that, if you use Apple TV often enough, it's not exactly a king's ransom. The experience can be vastly superior to many cheaper set top box (although Siri Remote is polarizing), while respecting user's privacy. And it enables HomeKit in your home.
VP9 is Google's standard. Aside from royalty arrangement, VP9 failed to deliver any meaningful improvements over industry standard HEVC. VP9 is worse than HEVC in most cases, in fact.
Since HEVC is industry standard, just about everyone has to implement it.
AV1 is developed as a consortium, that includes participation from all the major core companies: Amazon, Apple, ARM, Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, Netflix, and Nvidia. Most importantly, it offers significant improvement over HEVC and VP9 -- almost as significant as H.264 to HEVC and VP9.
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I'm not a fan either. However, when used in any Apple app, it works somewhat ok. But developers that change the functions slightly like Google make Youtube a freaking mess.
UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGH, I need a streaming device already, and I've pretty well decided realistically it needs to be an Apple TV or an Xbox I just don't worry about the wear and tear on, as I need something SECURE that gets updates for some years. I do not want to put my Apple or Google accounts on an insecure device.
There'll probably be something, but probably nothing for most people, which is totally fine.
No kidding...I wouldn't buy a current gen one except that it works with other remotes.
Realistically that won't happen, and hopefully they'll at least slot the current model down into the current 1080p model's price slot. You still want a newer model for the longer support, which applies to everyone else making stuff like these too, except in those cases there's maybe a $10 premium on a $40 device instead of a $30 premium on a $150 device.
Yeah, that's a great point... realistically these things ought to have at least 4GB or 6GB, but I'll be semi-surprised and pleased if they even hit 3 :-/
There'll probably be something, but probably nothing for most people, which is totally fine.
No kidding...I wouldn't buy a current gen one except that it works with other remotes.
Realistically that won't happen, and hopefully they'll at least slot the current model down into the current 1080p model's price slot. You still want a newer model for the longer support, which applies to everyone else making stuff like these too, except in those cases there's maybe a $10 premium on a $40 device instead of a $30 premium on a $150 device.
Yeah, that's a great point... realistically these things ought to have at least 4GB or 6GB, but I'll be semi-surprised and pleased if they even hit 3 :-/
What is the problem with 21:9? Is it just the UI or is the video pillarboxed?
That would be surprising and disappointing considering that iTunes store delivers 2.35:1 movies in correct aspect ratio without black bars encoded in.
All joking aside, that would be genius for acoustic mapping.
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People defending the remote are the same ones defending the butterfly keyboard.
Just because it's not bitstream doesn't mean it's lossy. As far as I know ATV decodes hi-def codecs and passes them as uncompressed multichannel PCM. It doesn't need to be "lossless" because it's no longer compressed. You won’t get fancy Dolby logos light up on your AVR but the sound quality is the same.
At least that's how it works on other players that do their own decoding. Is Apple TV different?
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