ViViDboarder
macrumors 68040
Beta. You fail. They won't release a final that's not capable with all that. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, are those needed? There's no Active-x for mac is there?
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Beta. You fail. They won't release a final that's not capable with all that. Plus, correct me if I'm wrong, are those needed? There's no Active-x for mac is there?
drlunanerd
macrumors 68000
Which is great since I don't want all the drive-by malware that ActiveX brings with it 😛
Small White Car
macrumors G4
A web browser? Ha, nope. I think the specs even allow some of the later G3 machines to run it.
Stability improvements?
Does anyone know, if Safari 4 is going to be more stable than previous versions? I love Safari, and I use it all the time. But it is the least stable application on my machine, and it crashes at least a couple of times a week. 🙁 Firefox (which I like much less, partly because it's a lot slower) hardly ever crashes... Will Safari 4 be more stable? 😕
Does anyone know, if Safari 4 is going to be more stable than previous versions? I love Safari, and I use it all the time. But it is the least stable application on my machine, and it crashes at least a couple of times a week. 🙁 Firefox (which I like much less, partly because it's a lot slower) hardly ever crashes... Will Safari 4 be more stable? 😕
QCassidy352
macrumors G5
Nice to see this review. I have to say, Safari is seriously blazing fast now. I've always rotated camino, safari, and firefox and liked them all about equally. But I can't see leaving safari at this point - it's just that much faster.
I agreed with you, for the first five minutes I was using Safari 4. Then I spent a few minutes feeling ambivalent. And now I'm kinda surprised nobody had done this before. They really are much nicer at the top. Still good that the old way is there as an option for those who prefer it though.
All in all, this is a really nice release, and I haven't had any stability issues yet (crosses fingers).
I agreed with you, for the first five minutes I was using Safari 4. Then I spent a few minutes feeling ambivalent. And now I'm kinda surprised nobody had done this before. They really are much nicer at the top. Still good that the old way is there as an option for those who prefer it though.
All in all, this is a really nice release, and I haven't had any stability issues yet (crosses fingers).
kinless
macrumors regular
Funny. I program all my sites in .NET (aspx) and they all work fine in 4.0.
If you find one that doesn't "work" it's probably the programmer, not the browser.
I'm willing to give tabs-on-top a try since I too have a 12" PBG4 and I can use every millimeter of real estate given to me.
Oh, from Safari site:
Reopen All Windows from Last Session
Want to start browsing where you left off the last time you quit Safari? Choose Reopen All Windows From Last Session from the History menu, and Safari opens the windows and tabs that were open when it previously quit.
http://www.apple.com/safari/features.html#interface
Is there a way to enable single window mode in safari where all new windows open in tabs?
Also, is there a way to use mouse gestures in safari? Gestures speed up browsing even faster than a better engine, imo.
I've always used firefox, but safari is noticeably faster.
Also, is there a way to use mouse gestures in safari? Gestures speed up browsing even faster than a better engine, imo.
I've always used firefox, but safari is noticeably faster.
defaults on windows
Is there away to change the default settings on XP - a/k/a tab bar location?
Is there away to change the default settings on XP - a/k/a tab bar location?
deannnnn
macrumors 68020
It must be your PC. I installed it on my HP notebook with Vista Home Premium and it's much faster than Firefox. No crashes. I didn't compare it to IE7 because I don't use it. No problems with mail. How does it lock up Firefox?
I also installed it on my PPC G5 at work and have had no problems either.
Darth.Titan
macrumors 68030
Okay, I'm using Safari 4 for Windows. I went to look at the leaves CSS animation. (Ooh... pretty 🙂)
While that site is up I cannot type a URL in the address bar. It highlights, but the keyboard doesn't work. I have to use the back button to navigate away.
Anyone else experienced this, or might this be machine-specific?
While that site is up I cannot type a URL in the address bar. It highlights, but the keyboard doesn't work. I have to use the back button to navigate away.
Anyone else experienced this, or might this be machine-specific?
That's the question. Is 3D a part of some new standard, or are the 3D demos just Stupid Canvas Tricks(TM)?
Only IE can work with Active-X. So Safari, for all its speed and beautifully rendered pages, is a fail vs IE. More and more sites are using Active-x, .net and asp.
kasei
macrumors 6502a
I like the tabs at the top but it is not very efficient to look past the address bar to see which tab you are in. I reverted back to the tabs on the bottom. I hope Apple includes an option allowing users to be able to switch between the two. I am using a 17" screen right now so space is not a problem. However I do have a 13" MacBook and I can see a problem with screen space on a smaller screen with the tabs at the top.
jclardy
macrumors 601
Are you sure its not your domain? I have google apps installed for swiftfoxsoftware.com and they are working fine in Safari 4.
Excellent all around -- stable?...
Amen to that!
For some reason Safari (3) crashes on me constantly. And I can't use tabs on it, because whenever I hit Command-W to close a tab, it tries to close the entire window -- very annoying. But I still keep trying to use it, cause I like everything else about it, it's well-integrated with the Mac OS and there are many things you can do easily in Safari that you can't in any other browsers.
Firefox has become too bloated -- I like the plugins for some things (web development), but I think it's getting slogged down in extra "features" -- and is absurdly processor-intensive.
So far love Safari 4 -- including the tabs at the top (although on the Mac I don't use them anyway because I prefer Expose). The Cover Flow for history at first seemed like overkill -- but I've already used it twice and found it extremely handy (when you can SEE the page, it's easy to find what you're looking for).
But: so far I've only tried the Windows version -- which had been stable already (ironically enough). Excited to try the Mac version and see how this has improved...
Amen to that!
For some reason Safari (3) crashes on me constantly. And I can't use tabs on it, because whenever I hit Command-W to close a tab, it tries to close the entire window -- very annoying. But I still keep trying to use it, cause I like everything else about it, it's well-integrated with the Mac OS and there are many things you can do easily in Safari that you can't in any other browsers.
Firefox has become too bloated -- I like the plugins for some things (web development), but I think it's getting slogged down in extra "features" -- and is absurdly processor-intensive.
So far love Safari 4 -- including the tabs at the top (although on the Mac I don't use them anyway because I prefer Expose). The Cover Flow for history at first seemed like overkill -- but I've already used it twice and found it extremely handy (when you can SEE the page, it's easy to find what you're looking for).
But: so far I've only tried the Windows version -- which had been stable already (ironically enough). Excited to try the Mac version and see how this has improved...
Saladinos
macrumors 68000
I really like the tabs at the top. It looks great and minimises the size of the window chrome by quite a lot. It takes a bit of getting used to (I still mainly use the CMD+SHIFT+Left/Right combo to switch tabs), but the additional content space and clean look of the browser are great.
The address bar also has a new look that I like. I'm not talking about the + button or anything like that - the bar itself looks different to me. Very smooth. Great look.
Count me in too. No Beta S4 for me. No mail. Says Growler's the problem. Growler's shutdown.
-NYB
BouncinDave
macrumors member
Can't find this asked anywhere...
Has anyone found a way of changing the default search engine?? I'm from the UK, and Google US is a tad annoying.
I used to solve this with Inquisitor, but that doesn't work (at the moment anyway).
Has anyone found a way of changing the default search engine?? I'm from the UK, and Google US is a tad annoying.
I used to solve this with Inquisitor, but that doesn't work (at the moment anyway).
Saladinos
macrumors 68000
No they're not. More and more sites are using AJAX and standards-based technologies for web apps. Some of the best apps out there - such as any of Google's webapps or MobileMe - all avoid plugins of any kind. Google have even started transcoding Youtube to h.264, which I believe is paving the way for an entirely standards based Youtube once HTML5 gets finalised (I think it'll coexist with the Flash version until Microsoft adopt HTML5 in IE).
AX was a massive security hole, causes all kind of browser compatibility, security and performance issues. It's becoming useless. Besides, it's not like all other browsers have no plug-in architecture. Firefox has once of the most flexible plug-in architectures around, and Safari and Chrome both have very well designed plug-in systems.
ActiveX is a dead horse. It's useless and has started coming back to bite Microsoft with the masses of security holes it allows. Why do you think businesses choose Firefox? Not because it's faster, and not because it's more standards compliant: they choose it because it's more secure. How is it more secure? Well, the major reason is that it doesn't support ActiveX.