How can that be true when this in itself is generating "noise"? If no one cared about the Google event, no one would have noticed that it was postponed.
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How can that be true when this in itself is generating "noise"? If no one cared about the Google event, no one would have noticed that it was postponed.
Well since Samsung made half the displays in the 4s, I guess you won't be buying one. Even Steve was doing business with Samsung. It's just business and competition. Chill. Apple completely ripped off the android notification. Probably checked and saw it wasn't patented (because it couldn't be, like many of Apple's patent attempts) and decided it was the best system. They actually improved it to some extent from what I've seen, and they still seem to use parts of the old system. I personally like the bubbles that pop up for texts but if I was getting more of them, probably not.
The iPhone put together a lot of tech. But they didn't invent touch. And they didn't invent a grid of icons. I think there are nuances that they are really trying to patent. I notice on my wife's android that some things are the same as iPhone but others like swiping between photos or pinch to zoom aren't always there. The Facebook app for example doesn't swipe between photos on android. I'm guessing that's a battle Apple won. I don't know.
I think with Samsung it was all just sooooo similar in look feel and execution that they got an injunction. But it's not over yet. What if Apple loses? Don't they look like the bad guy stopping Samsung from making money when they were doing nothing wrong (legally). But on the other hand if they didn't get the injunction and won, they would possibly be given a portion of the profits. It's all just a game they play. I don't think the companies take it as personal as the fans do.
What? Samsung made the 4s display? Really? They certainly didn't make the ones on the 4.
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If you think it is out o respect, you're naive. They did this because any coverage of their launch would be drowned out by the news.
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If you think it is out o respect, you're naive. They did this because any coverage of their launch would be drowned out by the news.
But the coverage of their cancellation of their launch isn't ?
Some people sure are quick to spin this into a negative.
The problem debating technology with you is that you are not capable of understanding technological arguments.
It's like trying to talk to a Ford or Chevy fan about the specifics of electronic ignition, when all they care about is how many cylinders the car has.
So, I'm going to rebut you, but I know you're an android. You're just regurgitating things you've heard but don't understand. I'm not going to debate you, because debate would require a human opponent, capable of reasoning. Any response from you will merely be proof that you're incapable of comprehending actual technical arguments. (because if you were, you'd either be quieted by reading this, and you wouldn't have made your post in the first place.)
Actually, that's worse. There are many aspects of "better", one of which is being able to use the device. When the screen is too large, it falls out of convenient reach of your fingers, making it more difficult to use.
Further, beyond 300 dpi, increased pixel resolution provides no benefit because you cannot perceive it. Maybe making the screen larger drops the ppi down below 300, but that doesn't make it better, it makes it worse, and if it doesn't drop it below 300, then there's no advantage to higher resolution.
Ok, this is a flat out lie. This tactic is from the days when everybody was using the same Intel chips. Then you could compare CPU models. But Apple makes their own CPUS, Apple doesn't reveal what's in them, and they are fairly proprietary.
So, where's the voice-recognition engine in your androids CPU? Facial recognition CPU? Which standard tests have you submitted it to? And how do you compare it to the one in the iPhone 4s's A5? That would be pretty difficult since the 4S isn't shipping now, wouldn't it?
Thought so.
This is the kind of stuff that makes it obvious you're an automaton, an android. The reason Apple doesn't use OLED technology is the terrible performance outdoors, you know, where people spend a lot of their time. You're fronting an inferior technology as if it is better than other inferior technologies and completely ignoring that Apple is using the superior (but more expensive) technology.
Another lie, given that Android doesn't provide a unified storage system like iOS does. Thus, the expansion of android devices is pretty pointless since Apps can't' use that space.
Which means less battery time. Oh, and you forgot to add: higher wattage components, less reliable software, designed with a focus on BS specs over usability, all of which add up to terrible battery performance, necessitating constantly replacing your battery.... and this is exacerbated by using a removable battery, which means a big chunk of the internal space goes to supporting this removable battery, meaning the battery itself is smaller.
This is how I know you're speaking from ignorance and have never used an iPhone. That's the thing- you guys buy crap, like windows, and you only ever use crap, so you assume that the iPhone is crap as well.
Android doesn't have Siri, or any of the other "little things" Apple has invented and patented over the past years. Of course, android stole Apple's multi-touch technology, and your phone will be removed from the market in due course as a result....but even with Apple publishing patents your favored rip-off artists can't copy the technology fast enough to keep up.
Android has a poor notification mechanism, and has never been ahead in this regard. This is another feature that android stole from the iPhone, but you lot, knowing nothing about even recent history, delude yourself into thinking that it was originated with android.
Same thing with multi-tasking. The original iPhone-- a year before any android phone shipped-- was multi-tasking. And I mean, true, pre-emptive, multitasking. This has been a feature of the phone since the beginning, since the phone runs a modern operating system (OS X) and has had that feature since the 1980s.
Apple limits apps ability to run in the background for performance. The number one complaint of android users, and the reason android phones have a %25 return rate, is terrible battery performance. And one of the reasons the battery is terrible is all those pointless background apps. Apple lets you run in the background where you need it... not for stupid stuff.
Here, your ignorance of basic technology has you claiming the defect in your preferred platform is a feature!
Siri, to mention. But then, your entire basis of understanding is to pretend like the iPhone is just another feature phone like android.
It isn't. It's a smartphone.
You post a picture of an obvious iPhone ripoff and act as if its original? Seriously?
Every touch phone on the market is a counterfeit iPhone. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
It's like trying to talk to a Ford or Chevy fan about the specifics of electronic ignition, when all they care about is how many cylinders the car has.
So, I'm going to rebut you, but I know you're an android. You're just regurgitating things you've heard but don't understand. I'm not going to debate you, because debate would require a human opponent, capable of reasoning. Any response from you will merely be proof that you're incapable of comprehending actual technical arguments. (because if you were, you'd either be quieted by reading this, and you wouldn't have made your post in the first place.)
Actually, that's worse. There are many aspects of "better", one of which is being able to use the device. When the screen is too large, it falls out of convenient reach of your fingers, making it more difficult to use.
Further, beyond 300 dpi, increased pixel resolution provides no benefit because you cannot perceive it. Maybe making the screen larger drops the ppi down below 300, but that doesn't make it better, it makes it worse, and if it doesn't drop it below 300, then there's no advantage to higher resolution.
Ok, this is a flat out lie. This tactic is from the days when everybody was using the same Intel chips. Then you could compare CPU models. But Apple makes their own CPUS, Apple doesn't reveal what's in them, and they are fairly proprietary.
So, where's the voice-recognition engine in your androids CPU? Facial recognition CPU? Which standard tests have you submitted it to? And how do you compare it to the one in the iPhone 4s's A5? That would be pretty difficult since the 4S isn't shipping now, wouldn't it?
Thought so.
This is the kind of stuff that makes it obvious you're an automaton, an android. The reason Apple doesn't use OLED technology is the terrible performance outdoors, you know, where people spend a lot of their time. You're fronting an inferior technology as if it is better than other inferior technologies and completely ignoring that Apple is using the superior (but more expensive) technology.
Another lie, given that Android doesn't provide a unified storage system like iOS does. Thus, the expansion of android devices is pretty pointless since Apps can't' use that space.
Which means less battery time. Oh, and you forgot to add: higher wattage components, less reliable software, designed with a focus on BS specs over usability, all of which add up to terrible battery performance, necessitating constantly replacing your battery.... and this is exacerbated by using a removable battery, which means a big chunk of the internal space goes to supporting this removable battery, meaning the battery itself is smaller.
This is how I know you're speaking from ignorance and have never used an iPhone. That's the thing- you guys buy crap, like windows, and you only ever use crap, so you assume that the iPhone is crap as well.
Android doesn't have Siri, or any of the other "little things" Apple has invented and patented over the past years. Of course, android stole Apple's multi-touch technology, and your phone will be removed from the market in due course as a result....but even with Apple publishing patents your favored rip-off artists can't copy the technology fast enough to keep up.
Android has a poor notification mechanism, and has never been ahead in this regard. This is another feature that android stole from the iPhone, but you lot, knowing nothing about even recent history, delude yourself into thinking that it was originated with android.
Same thing with multi-tasking. The original iPhone-- a year before any android phone shipped-- was multi-tasking. And I mean, true, pre-emptive, multitasking. This has been a feature of the phone since the beginning, since the phone runs a modern operating system (OS X) and has had that feature since the 1980s.
Apple limits apps ability to run in the background for performance. The number one complaint of android users, and the reason android phones have a %25 return rate, is terrible battery performance. And one of the reasons the battery is terrible is all those pointless background apps. Apple lets you run in the background where you need it... not for stupid stuff.
Here, your ignorance of basic technology has you claiming the defect in your preferred platform is a feature!
Siri, to mention. But then, your entire basis of understanding is to pretend like the iPhone is just another feature phone like android.
It isn't. It's a smartphone.
Now are we going to claim copying ?
You post a picture of an obvious iPhone ripoff and act as if its original? Seriously?
Every touch phone on the market is a counterfeit iPhone. EVERY SINGLE ONE.
Firstly, it's quite clear from the threads you yourself must have read here in the last couple of days that Steve was not universally loved and adored, and that he certainly did not unite everyone. A genius, a visionary and a lot more besides, but he would be the first to refute the pedestal you're putting him on. There are vast populations around the world who have never even heard of Steve Jobs, and as much as perhaps one day they will, and that in many ways their lives may be subtly changed by his innovations and insights, there's absolutely no doubt that Pope John Paul, Michael Jackson and Princess Diana were far more universally recognised and known.
That isn't to denigrate Steve at all, but I was on duty in London on the day of Diana's funeral. One of the busiest cities on the face of the planet and you could hear a pin drop despite the sea of faces far to great to hope to count. 'Just royalists'? I don't think so.
The point is that you don't score one life, one death, against others. These are unique people who brought their uniqueness to a world that benefited from it. Whether you like the person or not, it should still be possible to respect them for what they did, or tried to to, rather than measure them against your own prejudices and preferences.
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This is the kind of stuff that makes it obvious you've not used a phone with the SAMOLED+ screen. It works perfectly fine outdoors in sunlight.
They were planing to poke fun at apple like they usually do, that is all.
Exactly.
The slideshows and graphics they pass on to "independent fan-run blogs" (but curiously all dependent on Google ad revenue) were probably all full of iPhone and Apple tombstones, which would be in bad taste now.
They're busily photoshopping everything now.
So many conspiracy theorists and Debbie Downers around here who want to make it more negative than it really is.
Apple, Google, and Samsung are all partners with each other in some way. Google and Samsung are what I call "frenemies" to Apple. Google provides services for iPhones and Samsung is supplier for Apple. When Apple was in desperate need of going bankrupt, didn't Jobs' rival and friend Bill Gates help out?
But some people want to make it out like it so cold-blooded or more "dramatic" than it is. That post about Magic Johnson vs Larry Bird is right on point. On court, they hated each other because they were competitors. It was war. Off the court, they were friends. Same thing with Bill Russell vs Wilt Chamberlain or more recently, Kobe vs Shaq.
Brian Lam (Gizmodo) article -
Steve Jobs Was a Kind Man: My Regrets About Burning Him
You think when Steve Jobs was close to his death, he was thinking about all the negative things that happened to him? Getting fired by Apple back in 1985 probably HURT him more than anything Microsoft, Google, or Samsung has ever done to him. But he probably wasn't thinking about it anymore.
Let bygones be bygones. The Buddhist beliefs of learning to let things go....
Apple, Google, and Samsung are all partners with each other in some way. Google and Samsung are what I call "frenemies" to Apple. Google provides services for iPhones and Samsung is supplier for Apple. When Apple was in desperate need of going bankrupt, didn't Jobs' rival and friend Bill Gates help out?
But some people want to make it out like it so cold-blooded or more "dramatic" than it is. That post about Magic Johnson vs Larry Bird is right on point. On court, they hated each other because they were competitors. It was war. Off the court, they were friends. Same thing with Bill Russell vs Wilt Chamberlain or more recently, Kobe vs Shaq.
Brian Lam (Gizmodo) article -
Steve Jobs Was a Kind Man: My Regrets About Burning Him
You think when Steve Jobs was close to his death, he was thinking about all the negative things that happened to him? Getting fired by Apple back in 1985 probably HURT him more than anything Microsoft, Google, or Samsung has ever done to him. But he probably wasn't thinking about it anymore.
Let bygones be bygones. The Buddhist beliefs of learning to let things go....
His entire post is the kind of stuff that makes it obvious he's never even looked at an Android phone. Android copied the iOS notification system? That's just ****ing hilarious. iOS didn't even have a notification system until 3 years after Android was released with one.
The Sun newspaper for me in its editorial summed it up for me "Half the world has his products and the other half craves them"
Steve revolutionised film, he revolutionised music, he revolutionised computing, he revolutionised the way we listen to music, the way we browse the net, Steve literally touched all of our lives in the case of many people without them even realising it, hardly anyone I have spoken to this last couple of days knew that Steve was the man behind Toy Story and cars, hardly anyone I know knew that we would all be entering command prompts today but for Steve, hardly anyone knew that the internet was created on one of Steve's computers.
It is a shame Steve is not a catholic if he was he would be a prime case for beatification.
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