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This looks like a great phone. It really does. But I've been burned by Samsung too many times to give them another chance. I've owned several Samsung phones and I've had friends and family that have as well and it's always the same old story - incredibly great devices out of the box but after 6 months they start going to crap. Lags, freezes, random shutdowns and stutters and glitches. Of course, no updates to fix them and even clearing the phone from fresh is only a temporary solution. I've never had to exchange an iPhone but I had to with the Samsung as recently as the Galaxy S5 when it was new. Androids just slow down with age, it is a fundamental flaw in the the way the software is made. Hell my S5 never received an update the entire time I owned it (almost a year) except for a minor one that AT&T pushed and all it did was add more bloatware apps that couldn't be deleted. Also, the bootloader being locked made it basically impossible to change ROMs...but I shouldn't need to do that anyway.

My S3 never got one either. My S1 did back in the day but it ruined the phone.

I'm not saying Apple is perfect but it's a lot more consumer friendly and there's an Apple Store nearby if I do have any problems. Updates are always around the corner as well.

I've put my 6s+ up against my coworkers Note 4 edge, Note 5 and a Galaxy S6 and from I've seen my phone just run circles around them. iOS is just better at what it does than Android. Internet browsing, Instagram, Fecebook, camera... it's all faster on iOS. How is that a dual core with 2GB RAM is outrunning these beast phones with quad and 8 core CPUs and double the RAM? Not like these are professional benchmarks just horsing around with friends but it's crazy.

TLDR; if we could get an S7 with iOS that'd be great...
 
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Like I've said, it isn't Samsung's fault people would rather buy something for the sake of saying, "I have an Apple iPhone." Samsung sells more phones on a worldwide basis, so not really sure where your logic is coming from.

Samsung doesn't sell more Galaxy flagship phones than iPhone.

And I think you're still thinking people run around saying they've got an iPhone is laughable. Samsungs whole marketing is "look what galaxy can do that iPhone doesn't". Seems to run off on its customers too. How's that been working for them? You think the ex CEO who's been dead for 6 years is why Apple is still selling iPhones today is comical.

It's like it's inconceivable that these millions of iPhone users are actually happy and content. "Oh but u need to try this x and that x. That old version was bad but the new one is the greatest." Id imagine most iPhone users are like "if I'm good with my iPhone, why?" But hey if you're happy with the Galaxy then by all means keep going. Just a tip though wait about a month or two and you can save a lot when they normally slash prices.
 
"Dull" but stronger and lasts longer, depends on what you deem sexy; besides the Camera, Samsung flagship gets beat it all over the place. But, hey, it's shiny and new...

More nonsense as usual.
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I literally just bought a Samsung washer and dryer last night. It is a wine type colour that I do not enjoy.

Why did you buy it if you don't like the color? Oh, you're married. :D
 
I think that's the biggest drawback, lack of updates.

Especially true given the rise in the number of vulnerabilities found - it is one thing to find flaws but if you aren't fixing up the flaws and making those fixes available promptly then it is akin to Apple or Microsoft failing to provide updates for their desktop operating system for months which Microsoft and Apple would never get away with in the court of public opinion.

I'm a very big smartphone enthusiast that enjoys both platforms and has been using both Android and iPhones concurrently, way back since the beginning of each platform.

At one point in the past I'd agree. But today's Android OS is so good it doesn't require frequent patches like iOS does.

Apple users have used this excuse as a club to beat up Android.

I use both a Nexus 6P and Samsung S6 just for the fun of comparing. While I've always been a huge proponent of Google's Nexus Smartphones and owned every model, I've also enjoyed Samsung, HTC, Moto Droid's et al.

But the issue isn't Android, the issue is Samsung which is why I specifically mentioned them along with HTC. The issue comes down to OEM's not stepping up and either providing updates themselves in a timely manner or have their build bog standard enough that Google can push out critical security updates straight to the customer thus bypassing the carrier and OEM entirely. All software has vulnerabilities because software is written by fallible entities, namely humans, but the question is how promptly do you respond to those vulnerabilities once found.

I think it is entirely fair for Apple users to use the excuse to beat up Android given that the representative of Android within the mainstream is Samsung who have one of the worst reputations when it comes to updates and upgrades. As I noted prior, if I ever moved to Android then I'd be getting an Nexus 6P if for no other reason than the fact that I'd know that I will be supported for the long term rather than thrown under the bus 14 months after a phone is released as with the case of Samsung and the recently released list (a very short list indeed) of phones that'll get Android 6.0.
 
Especially true given the rise in the number of vulnerabilities found - it is one thing to find flaws but if you aren't fixing up the flaws and making those fixes available promptly then it is akin to Apple or Microsoft failing to provide updates for their desktop operating system for months which Microsoft and Apple would never get away with in the court of public opinion.



But the issue isn't Android, the issue is Samsung which is why I specifically mentioned them along with HTC. The issue comes down to OEM's not stepping up and either providing updates themselves in a timely manner or have their build bog standard enough that Google can push out critical security updates straight to the customer thus bypassing the carrier and OEM entirely. All software has vulnerabilities because software is written by fallible entities, namely humans, but the question is how promptly do you respond to those vulnerabilities once found.

I think it is entirely fair for Apple users to use the excuse to beat up Android given that the representative of Android within the mainstream is Samsung who have one of the worst reputations when it comes to updates and upgrades. As I noted prior, if I ever moved to Android then I'd be getting an Nexus 6P if for no other reason than the fact that I'd know that I will be supported for the long term rather than thrown under the bus 14 months after a phone is released as with the case of Samsung and the recently released list (a very short list indeed) of phones that'll get Android 6.0.

Apple clearly has the advantage here, and also in customer service. I would like to see Samsung step up to the plate and make timely updates, but right your only chance for quick fixes is with the Google phone. It doesn't seem that any of the companies using Android make updates in a reasonable time and that is a very fair criticism.
 
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"4GB of RAM to keep all your tabs open" - why does this sound so appealing... and like a direct jab at Apple.

2GB on the iPhone 6S helped tremendously but I think even 3GB would make a marked improvement in this area.

I agree.. More memory is nice. Every time I open safari it has to reload the page. And that's with only one page open..


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Those Samsungs are jolly good. We now know Samsung are not just a "me too" company like Microsoft did with the Zune. Of course, I will stick with the Apple ecosystem, I have learned the more stable software is better than the fancier hardware.

I also learned from life that, what works best for me is not necessarily what works best for others. We should rule out marketing terms like "best (name of product here)" and enjoy the variety of life.
 
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So apparently the SD Card expansion isn't as good as people were hoping...

For starters, the Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge are said to only come in 32GB flavor in some markets, including the United States. No problem, right? That expandable storage will make nice use of Android 6.0 Marshmallow’s adoptable storage feature that lets you use microSD cards as internal storage, no?

Well… no. Like the LG G5, Samsung decided to skip out on supporting adoptable storage for their latest smartphones. This means you’ll only be able to use the microSD card for things that can be written to external storage, like photos, video, music and files, but not apps.

.........

We’ll have to hope that Samsung eventually changes plans, either by offering higher capacity models or patching in adoptable storage support in a future firmware upgrade. Otherwise, you’re going to have to stay limited to 32GB for your apps, and there’s not much you’ll be able to do to change that.

http://phandroid.com/2016/02/22/galaxy-s7-edge-microsd-apps/
 
I think a lot of us would love to discuss about phones, technology, innovations in general. What I find disappointing that MR choses always Samsung for click baits, which brings out people like, well, people like you. Just like the Apple fanboys, equally annoying and on the other side of the spectrum.

Maybe MR will still run a thread about the really innovative phones which were presented in Barcelona.


I agree.
 
Exactamondo, if you look objectively and put emotions aside, it's clear that the S7 is superior to both the 6s and 6S plus. And it should be since it's coming out 6 months afterwards. Apple fans, don't panic, your phone is still solid either way.

Objectively the iPhone still has a faster processor, gpu and storage despite being 6 months older.
 
Yeah, that one time microSD flap access needed for 10+ times the amount of storage apple ships,by default?

Yeah, sounds really horrible, once you say it/type it

:rolleyes:
I've yet to see a 1TB+ (1024GB) microSD but seeing as a good 512GB one sells for around $500 a pop, I'd guess that if they were to actually sell those 1TB cards it wouldn't be cheap, probably more expensive than buying a new Galaxy.
Also, when you really need to carry around that amount of data, just grab a 3TB MyPassport HDD; they go for under $150, they are faster and more reliable than SD cards. As an added bonus, you won't run the risk of losing it and you don't have to fiddle with those crappy cards. I guess this last one is more of a personal preference as I've never cared for SD cards, USB sticks and the like, and I was happy to see those go away when the first iPhone was released.
 
Especially true given the rise in the number of vulnerabilities found - it is one thing to find flaws but if you aren't fixing up the flaws and making those fixes available promptly then it is akin to Apple or Microsoft failing to provide updates for their desktop operating system for months which Microsoft and Apple would never get away with in the court of public opinion.



But the issue isn't Android, the issue is Samsung which is why I specifically mentioned them along with HTC. The issue comes down to OEM's not stepping up and either providing updates themselves in a timely manner or have their build bog standard enough that Google can push out critical security updates straight to the customer thus bypassing the carrier and OEM entirely. All software has vulnerabilities because software is written by fallible entities, namely humans, but the question is how promptly do you respond to those vulnerabilities once found.

I think it is entirely fair for Apple users to use the excuse to beat up Android given that the representative of Android within the mainstream is Samsung who have one of the worst reputations when it comes to updates and upgrades. As I noted prior, if I ever moved to Android then I'd be getting an Nexus 6P if for no other reason than the fact that I'd know that I will be supported for the long term rather than thrown under the bus 14 months after a phone is released as with the case of Samsung and the recently released list (a very short list indeed) of phones that'll get Android 6.0.
Samsung pushes out monthly security updates for vulnerabilities since early last year.
 
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I still think this s7 update is good, but rather disappointing:

-no dual camera' s
-no pressure sensitive screen
-same oled as the S6

Ok waterproofing is nice, so is the larger battery, lowlight performance improvement and better grip.
It is a good update from samsung, but it is especially good for s6 sales. Average consumers will go for the s6 for a lot less.

No big threath for the iphone 7(+), apple should be able to match this with dual camera' s, waterproofing and higher res , deeper black and less bezel screens, and the upcoming A10 soc.
The only big question will be wat apple will do with the displays, will the new ips be good enough to match the oled displays? Can apple keep up till 2018?
About the soc, there is no question apple is moving forward and will keep the lead. If the a10 comes close to the performance of a slightly lower clocked A9x, there will be no contest.

But good update , the s7 will improve s6 sales , as the 6s did for the 6.

But perhaps the S7 edge+ or note 6 will surprise us.
 
Don't get why people have to bash another product to make you feel great about your own. Nothing with praising a good product even if apple didn't make it.

Its a psychological process called Cognitive dissonance..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

When someone is a "fan" of something, or heavily emotionally vested in their purchase (Due to cost, decision making process, whatever reason they chose it). Anything that comes along that might show that their choice might not be the only choice, or the best choice to them, will often trigger such an emotional response.

The reaction tends to be to put down, attack or discredit that other item that came along. Thus, Re-affirming to themselves that they made the correct choice in their decision.

Goign to use fictional hypothetical case here so not to ruffle any feathers:

But John buys himself the latest phone from PhoneComPlus. It ticks virtually all the wants and desires and he pays a good $1,000 for the phone. "This is the best phone for my needs!" he tells himself. And thats very likely true, that it does cover every one of his needs.

But a day later, AmCorp releases it's flagship top of the line phone, and it costs $950 and has a lot more features. It too also covers his needs, and does them just as well as PhoneComePLus's offer.

John has an emotional reaction to this. Did he overpay? did he really get the best deal? are those new features in the AmCorp phone worth it? This is where the mind starts automatically using discrimination. Whats different. What is something I don't find useful, what ultimately do I prefer. Then taking those discriminations and assigning some sort of prejudice against them. These negatives enforce in the mind that they did in fact, buy the best device for themselves, and clearly, the other one is a bad choice. Assigning a binary, zero sum model to choice in order to prove to themselves they made the best choice

You'd be amazed how well companies recognise that many customers will be affected by cognitive dissonance. The best marketers in the world realize this and do not only aim their commercials at selling people stuff, but convincing existing buyers that they made the right choice.
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I've yet to see a 1TB+ (1024GB) microSD but seeing as a good 512GB one sells for around $500 a pop, I'd guess that if they were to actually sell those 1TB cards it wouldn't be cheap, probably more expensive than buying a new Galaxy.
Also, when you really need to carry around that amount of data, just grab a 3TB MyPassport HDD; they go for under $150, they are faster and more reliable than SD cards. As an added bonus, you won't run the risk of losing it and you don't have to fiddle with those crappy cards. I guess this last one is more of a personal preference as I've never cared for SD cards, USB sticks and the like, and I was happy to see those go away when the first iPhone was released.

are you honestly comparing a MicroSD card that fits inside your phone, with a full size portable Hard drive?

And you expect anyone to take you seriously?
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I still think this s7 update is good, but rather disappointing:

-no dual camera' s
-no pressure sensitive screen
-same oled as the S6

Ok waterproofing is nice, so is the larger battery, lowlight performance improvement and better grip.
It is a good update from samsung, but it is especially good for s6 sales. Average consumers will go for the s6 for a lot less.

No big threath for the iphone 7(+), apple should be able to match this with dual camera' s, waterproofing and higher res , deeper black and less bezel screens, and the upcoming A10 soc.
The only big question will be wat apple will do with the displays, will the new ips be good enough to match the oled displays? Can apple keep up till 2018?
About the soc, there is no question apple is moving forward and will keep the lead. If the a10 comes close to the performance of a slightly lower clocked A9x, there will be no contest.

But good update , the s7 will improve s6 sales , as the 6s did for the 6.

But perhaps the S7 edge+ or note 6 will surprise us.

Just out of curiosity, those 3 things you listed, what would the appeal be?

Have we seen any "dual camera" setups that have offered compelling IQ upgrades yet? I know we have the rumoured dual lense setups, but we haven't seen any working samples outside of the lab of this DuaLux (i think the name) in any production. And right now, the Samsung Sx and Note 5 have had the highest rated cameras in the industry.

Surprised Samsung didn't impliment the pressure sensitive screen myself. But (to me at least) it's not a tentpole feature.

that "same oled" in the S6, that has been rated one of the best displays in the world, time and time again? that many reviewers, based on Objective measurements have said that there's almost no room for improvement? What did you expect, 2k? 4k? 8k? There's an upper limit to how much resolution you need and can leverage in a smartphone. Even Sony's 4k display is mostly unused.

When it comes to Apple, they could tack in the A9 / A9x in the 7 and still be well ahead of the game, I don't think they'll need to push to the A10 so soon, and if they do, it likely wont have profound changes and be more iterative. That A9 is a beast.

They'll likely stick with the IPS display (also rated one of the best) till the 7s, or even the 8. if Rumours hold up to be true, they wont be ready for OLED till 2018
 
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Its a psychological process called Cognitive dissonance..
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

When someone is a "fan" of something, or heavily emotionally vested in their purchase (Due to cost, decision making process, whatever reason they chose it). Anything that comes along that might show that their choice might not be the only choice, or the best choice to them, will often trigger such an emotional response.

The reaction tends to be to put down, attack or discredit that other item that came along. Thus, Re-affirming to themselves that they made the correct choice in their decision.

Goign to use fictional hypothetical case here so not to ruffle any feathers:

But John buys himself the latest phone from PhoneComPlus. It ticks virtually all the wants and desires and he pays a good $1,000 for the phone. "This is the best phone for my needs!" he tells himself. And thats very likely true, that it does cover every one of his needs.

But a day later, AmCorp releases it's flagship top of the line phone, and it costs $950 and has a lot more features. It too also covers his needs, and does them just as well as PhoneComePLus's offer.

John has an emotional reaction to this. Did he overpay? did he really get the best deal? are those new features in the AmCorp phone worth it? This is where the mind starts automatically using discrimination. Whats different. What is something I don't find useful, what ultimately do I prefer. Then taking those discriminations and assigning some sort of prejudice against them. These negatives enforce in the mind that they did in fact, buy the best device for themselves, and clearly, the other one is a bad choice. Assigning a binary, zero sum model to choice in order to prove to themselves they made the best choice

You'd be amazed how well companies recognise that many customers will be affected by cognitive dissonance. The best marketers in the world realize this and do not only aim their commercials at selling people stuff, but convincing existing buyers that they made the right choice.
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are you honestly comparing a MicroSD card that fits inside your phone, with a full size portable Hard drive?

And you expect anyone to take you seriously?
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Just out of curiosity, those 3 things you listed, what would the appeal be?

Have we seen any "dual camera" setups that have offered compelling IQ upgrades yet? I know we have the rumoured dual lense setups, but we haven't seen any working samples outside of the lab of this DuaLux (i think the name) in any production. And right now, the Samsung Sx and Note 5 have had the highest rated cameras in the industry.

Surprised Samsung didn't impliment the pressure sensitive screen myself. But (to me at least) it's not a tentpole feature.

that "same oled" in the S6, that has been rated one of the best displays in the world, time and time again? that many reviewers, based on Objective measurements have said that there's almost no room for improvement? What did you expect, 2k? 4k? 8k? There's an upper limit to how much resolution you need and can leverage in a smartphone. Even Sony's 4k display is mostly unused.

When it comes to Apple, they could tack in the A9 / A9x in the 7 and still be well ahead of the game, I don't think they'll need to push to the A10 so soon, and if they do, it likely wont have profound changes and be more iterative. That A9 is a beast.

They'll likely stick with the IPS display (also rated one of the best) till the 7s, or even the 8. if Rumours hold up to be true, they wont be ready for OLED till 2018

No, I haven' t seen the dual lens set-up.
But they could have hit a home run if they came up with their own implementation, they didn't. They decreased mp count for low light.
That is good, but not great.
No pressure sensitive display is not a big disaster, but this gives Apple and IOS a year and a half lead. Just like the better implementation of the fingerprint reader and 64 bit doc.
Perhaps 3D Touch is not such a big deal now, but it could be in a year.
So s7 isn't as future proof as it could have been. And a lot of people don' t buy a phone every year. This could set back android and Samsung in 3D Touch feature development .
The display is indeed the best but by not developing it further, they allow apple to come closer..

So it is good for now, but it isn't a stellar enough update to really put the pressure on Apple for the iPhone 7 release.

And I think that is a shame...
 
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