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No, I haven' t seen the dual lens set-up.
But they could have hit a home run if they came up with their own implementation, they didn't. They decreased mp count for low light.
That is good, but not great.
No pressure sensitive display is not a big disaster, but this gives Apple and IOS a year and a half lead. Just like the better implementation of the fingerprint reader and 64 bit doc.
Perhaps 3D Touch is not such a big deal now, but it could be in a year.
So s7 isn't as future proof as it could have been. And a lot of people don' t buy a phone every year. This could set back android and Samsung in 3D Touch feature development .
The display is indeed the best but by not developing it further, they allow apple to come closer..

So it is good for now, but it isn't a stellar enough update to really put the pressure on Apple for the iPhone 7 release.

And I think that is a shame...

I can undderstand all of those points

the S7 feels more like the "S" generation of this particular device. It's a good revision of the S6, but it's not anything really new.
 
I can undderstand all of those points

the S7 feels more like the "S" generation of this particular device. It's a good revision of the S6, but it's not anything really new.

No , it is just like the 6 and 6s.
 
This looks like a great phone. It really does. But I've been burned by Samsung too many times to give them another chance. I've owned several Samsung phones and I've had friends and family that have as well and it's always the same old story - incredibly great devices out of the box but after 6 months they start going to crap. Lags, freezes, random shutdowns and stutters and glitches. Of course, no updates to fix them and even clearing the phone from fresh is only a temporary solution. I've never had to exchange an iPhone but I had to with the Samsung as recently as the Galaxy S5 when it was new. Androids just slow down with age, it is a fundamental flaw in the the way the software is made. Hell my S5 never received an update the entire time I owned it (almost a year) except for a minor one that AT&T pushed and all it did was add more bloatware apps that couldn't be deleted. Also, the bootloader being locked made it basically impossible to change ROMs...but I shouldn't need to do that anyway.

My S3 never got one either. My S1 did back in the day but it ruined the phone.

I'm not saying Apple is perfect but it's a lot more consumer friendly and there's an Apple Store nearby if I do have any problems. Updates are always around the corner as well.

I've put my 6s+ up against my coworkers Note 4 edge, Note 5 and a Galaxy S6 and from I've seen my phone just run circles around them. iOS is just better at what it does than Android. Internet browsing, Instagram, Fecebook, camera... it's all faster on iOS. How is that a dual core with 2GB RAM is outrunning these beast phones with quad and 8 core CPUs and double the RAM? Not like these are professional benchmarks just horsing around with friends but it's crazy.

TLDR; if we could get an S7 with iOS that'd be great...

Same story with my S2 and S4. If there were ever to be a Nexus S7, I'd consider switching back.
 
That is what I am saying. this isn't Samsung's redesigned new phone. it's an incremental update to the S6.

Yes, but they seem to have updated the display compared to the S6 i just read.
So apple is up for a display fight.
I feel they are a little too late in the shift towards oled for iphones now.
 
Yes, but they seem to have updated the display compared to the S6 i just read.
So apple is up for a display fight.
I feel they are a little too late in the shift towards oled for iphones now.

Just read that too! going to be very interesting to see how much more Samsung manages to get out of their display. the S6's 1440p display has already been rated the best in the business by many reviewers. the fact they could make it even better in some way will be interesting.
 
are you honestly comparing a MicroSD card that fits inside your phone, with a full size portable Hard drive?

And you expect anyone to take you seriously?
Not sure why you choose to ignore most of my comment to pick on the last part. I don't get the interest for SD cards. They were a necessary nuisance in the mid-90s which is where they should have stayed with console memory cards and Sony's Memory Stick.
 
I've yet to see a 1TB+ (1024GB) microSD but seeing as a good 512GB one sells for around $500 a pop, I'd guess that if they were to actually sell those 1TB cards it wouldn't be cheap, probably more expensive than buying a new Galaxy.
Also, when you really need to carry around that amount of data, just grab a 3TB MyPassport HDD; they go for under $150, they are faster and more reliable than SD cards. As an added bonus, you won't run the risk of losing it and you don't have to fiddle with those crappy cards. I guess this last one is more of a personal preference as I've never cared for SD cards, USB sticks and the like, and I was happy to see those go away when the first iPhone was released.
I was referring to the 16 gig base and the 200+gig expandability with android 6.0

Not sure where you are pulling 1,2,3 TB from?

Who's fiddling with crappy cards? You put it in once.

You might be happy with a 16gig base, but many others are not.
 
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No, I haven' t seen the dual lens set-up.
But they could have hit a home run if they came up with their own implementation, they didn't. They decreased mp count for low light.
That is good, but not great.
No pressure sensitive display is not a big disaster, but this gives Apple and IOS a year and a half lead. Just like the better implementation of the fingerprint reader and 64 bit doc.
Perhaps 3D Touch is not such a big deal now, but it could be in a year.
So s7 isn't as future proof as it could have been. And a lot of people don' t buy a phone every year. This could set back android and Samsung in 3D Touch feature development .
The display is indeed the best but by not developing it further, they allow apple to come closer..

So it is good for now, but it isn't a stellar enough update to really put the pressure on Apple for the iPhone 7 release.

And I think that is a shame...

Who says pressure sensitive screens will ever be mainstream on androids? What popular android flagship device has pressure sensitive screen? None.

Dual camera? The s7 camera could possibly be the best camera in 2016 on mobile. What more do you want? For them to have a dual camera just for the sake of having it?

Samsung screens are the best on any mobile device. I would feel confident betting iPhone 7 screen will not be as good. Apple won't jump from 720p to 2k.

So to sum up:

Possible best camera of 2016 for mobile
No pressure sensitive screen which might not ever be mainstream on androids
Best screen for 2016 is possible / likely.

What more do you want?
 
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Who says pressure sensitive screens will ever be mainstream on androids? What popular android flagship device has pressure sensitive screen? None.

Dual camera? The s7 camera could possibly be the best camera in 2016 on mobile. What more do you want? For them to have a dual camera just for the sake of having it?

Samsung screens are the best on any mobile device. I would feel confident betting iPhone 7 screen will not be as good. Apple won't jump from 720p to 2k.

So to sum up:

Possible best camera of 2016 for mobile
No pressure sensitive screen which might not ever be mainstream on androids
Best screen for 2016 is possible / likely.

What more do you want?

What do I want now?
It is not about what I want now.

It is about this Galaxy s7 being able to lure customers away from their 6s now or their iPhone 7 in the future.
So it is a good upgrade, but it won' t be enough for current iPhone 6s users to upgrade, it won' t be enough for Galaxy s6 users to upgrade, and while the changes are good, it won' t stop people for waiting for the iPhone 7.

So, a good camera now? Yes, sure.
But the dual lens setup isn' t a gimmick, it has the potential to beat the best single setups now. The ball is in Apple' s court now, and I wouldn't bet against them. The quality before iPhone 6s camera, has always been stellar.

No 3D Touch, ok, it won' t have android users go to iOS/iPhone . But the lack of it could convince iPhone users to stay with iPhone .

Most worries for Apple will be the display.
They should go with oled in the next year and a half.(7s?)

The best side effect of the s7 will be a rise in sales of the S6, for the common users, it is a lot cheaper, almost look the same en is still fast enough. For them it will even have a better camera( more mp, what do they know, right?).
 
What do I want now?
It is not about what I want now.

It is about this Galaxy s7 being able to lure customers away from their 6s now or their iPhone 7 in the future.
So it is a good upgrade, but it won' t be enough for current iPhone 6s users to upgrade, it won' t be enough for Galaxy s6 users to upgrade, and while the changes are good, it won' t stop people for waiting for the iPhone 7.

So, a good camera now? Yes, sure.
But the dual lens setup isn' t a gimmick, it has the potential to beat the best single setups now. The ball is in Apple' s court now, and I wouldn't bet against them. The quality before iPhone 6s camera, has always been stellar.

No 3D Touch, ok, it won' t have android users go to iOS/iPhone . But the lack of it could convince iPhone users to stay with iPhone .

Most worries for Apple will be the display.
They should go with oled in the next year and a half.(7s?)

The best side effect of the s7 will be a rise in sales of the S6, for the common users, it is a lot cheaper, almost look the same en is still fast enough. For them it will even have a better camera( more mp, what do they know, right?).

Honestly I know the s6 is a nice device but those owners have a right to be upset. They took away the ir, expandable storage, removable battery, waterproofing, and regressed in the battery life from the s5 just to bring back half of those features for the s7. The people who paid retail for the s6 could feel slighted a little.

Someone brought up that Samsung might've not been able to do the pressure sensitive screen yet due to the hardware/software changes needed. I can see that but I expect them to do it in the s8, maybe even the note 6.

Honestly I imagine most iPhone users will not switch. I still think samsung marketing lacks focus. They basically focus just on the iPhone when they should focus on why they're better than other android handsets. Competing against iPhone has backfired on them.

I think Apple should try to focus on the micro led tech they acquired for displays. Imo it's still some time away from being widely available but the technology of micro led is really nice.
 
What do I want now?
It is not about what I want now.

It is about this Galaxy s7 being able to lure customers away from their 6s now or their iPhone 7 in the future.
So it is a good upgrade, but it won' t be enough for current iPhone 6s users to upgrade, it won' t be enough for Galaxy s6 users to upgrade, and while the changes are good, it won' t stop people for waiting for the iPhone 7.

So, a good camera now? Yes, sure.
But the dual lens setup isn' t a gimmick, it has the potential to beat the best single setups now. The ball is in Apple' s court now, and I wouldn't bet against them. The quality before iPhone 6s camera, has always been stellar.

No 3D Touch, ok, it won' t have android users go to iOS/iPhone . But the lack of it could convince iPhone users to stay with iPhone .

Most worries for Apple will be the display.
They should go with oled in the next year and a half.(7s?)

The best side effect of the s7 will be a rise in sales of the S6, for the common users, it is a lot cheaper, almost look the same en is still fast enough. For them it will even have a better camera( more mp, what do they know, right?).

How is it a worry with the display? It's not much better than last year (at for human eyes) and OLED has still not proven to have the best color rendering 2 year out (strangely nobody seems to be measuring that hmm, silence).

You also seem to have forgot that they actually sold very very bad OLED displays for years before turning up sort of good ones the last two times; people remember those kind of things.

The only real worry for Apple is the camera, that's the ONE Samsung advantage they can push right now. Everything else is either a wash or inconsequential.

They do lose on warrantee and support; they are so massively bad in that area that it begs belief that they would be that way. And they're like that for fridges and even TV's (very bad, had a trash a TV because of them).

Despite the rave reviews last year (same as this year), the S6 turned out to be a dog in build quality, so hmmm, lets see how that goes.

Apple still has the fastest phones in real use I bet (because everything is tightly tuned and they still have the single core advantage), the best touch ID, the best OS, the best ecosystem, 3D touch, etc.

Oh, and right now it's essentially as expensive as the Iphone.
 
I was referring to the 16 gig base and the 200+gig expandability with android 6.0

Not sure where you are pulling 1,2,3 TB from?
Your words:
Yeah, that one time microSD flap access needed for 10+ times the amount of storage apple ships
The iPhone 6s ships with 128GB. 10+ times that amount would be about 1TB.
You can get ultra portable HDDs with up to 3TB that are way cheaper, more reliable and without the cumbersomeness of micro cards and flaps.
Who's fiddling with crappy cards? You put it in once.
What's the point of using SD cards if you never swap them out? When you buy removable storage, it's to be removed, right?
You might be happy with a 16gig base, but many others are not.
Who said you had to buy the 16GB model? My first iPhone had 32GB and I won't bother with base models which don't fit my use (and I assume most other users). I understand why Apple sells those but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
 
How is it a worry with the display? It's not much better than last year (at for human eyes) and OLED has still not proven to have the best color rendering 2 year out (strangely nobody seems to be measuring that hmm, silence).

You also seem to have forgot that they actually sold very very bad OLED displays for years before turning up sort of good ones the last two times; people remember those kind of things.

The only real worry for Apple is the camera, that's the ONE Samsung advantage they can push right now. Everything else is either a wash or inconsequential.

They do lose on warrantee and support; they are so massively bad in that area that it begs belief that they would be that way. And they're like that for fridges and even TV's (very bad, had a trash a TV because of them).

Despite the rave reviews last year (same as this year), the S6 turned out to be a dog in build quality, so hmmm, lets see how that goes.

Apple still has the fastest phones in real use I bet (because everything is tightly tuned and they still have the single core advantage), the best touch ID, the best OS, the best ecosystem, 3D touch, etc.

Oh, and right now it's essentially as expensive as the Iphone.
Stop trying to downplay all the advantages the S7 has over the iPhone. It is good for Apple to have completion.
The display is better...
The build quality is as good or better
The S7 is IP68 rated.....meaning it can withstand being under 5 feet of water for 30 minutes!
The S7 has expandable storage via SD Cards...
The S7 has a as good or better battery life
The camera is a LOT better.

The S6 build quality was praised by the whole tech industry.

I agree with you on these below
TouchID is the best around.
Apple has the best customer support around

Best OS is subjective to say the least.
3DT is gimmicky and has very poor implementation. Even Apple's built in apps don't give useful info like weather and music apps.
 
What's the point of using SD cards if you never swap them out? When you buy removable storage, it's to be removed, right?

You can easily upgrade storage without buying a whole new phone. Swapping in a larger card after six months or so when prices for larger capacity cards have come down hardly counts as fiddling but it's much more cost-effective than upgrading the whole phone (assuming it's still performing otherwise fine).
 
Stop trying to downplay all the advantages the S7 has over the iPhone. It is good for Apple to have completion.
The display is better...
The build quality is as good or better
The S7 is IP68 rated.....meaning it can withstand being under 5 feet of water for 30 minutes!
The S7 has expandable storage via SD Cards...
The S7 has a as good or better battery life
The camera is a LOT better.

The S6 build quality was praised by the whole tech industry.

I agree with you on these below
TouchID is the best around.
Apple has the best customer support around

Best OS is subjective to say the least.
3DT is gimmicky and has very poor implementation. Even Apple's built in apps don't give useful info like weather and music apps.

Yes, but I think 3D Touch is more than just shortcuts. It will be able to replace physical buttons in the future(home button , volume buttons , etc).
It will allow Apple for building iPhones with less mechanical/moving parts. Add e-sim, displays all curved over the edges and in screen touchid, wireless charging, no 3,5 mm jack , etc. and a future iPhone could be all screen, totally waterproof.
They just have to find a way too remove speaker holes ( vibration tech?).
So we don' t see all potential of 3D Touch now, in the future it will be very interesting.
It could also be the next advancement in a more desktop like OS(right mouse click).
 
Yes, but I think 3D Touch is more than just shortcuts. It will be able to replace physical buttons in the future(home button , volume buttons , etc).
It will allow Apple for building iPhones with less mechanical/moving parts. Add e-sim, displays all curved over the edges and in screen touchid, wireless charging, no 3,5 mm jack , etc. and a future iPhone could be all screen, totally waterproof.
They just have to find a way too remove speaker holes ( vibration tech?).
So we don' t see all potential of 3D Touch now, in the future it will be very interesting.
It could also be the next advancement in a more desktop like OS(right mouse click).
You could be right about sometime in the future but right now on my 6s+ it is not implemented very well. Sometimes it yields useful information. Sometimes not and it's been 5 months since release. Then it seems to add a degree of difficulty that does need to be there. I forget to use it most of the time.
 
Your words:

The iPhone 6s ships with 128GB. 10+ times that amount would be about 1TB.
You can get ultra portable HDDs with up to 3TB that are way cheaper, more reliable and without the cumbersomeness of micro cards and flaps.

What's the point of using SD cards if you never swap them out? When you buy removable storage, it's to be removed, right?

Who said you had to buy the 16GB model? My first iPhone had 32GB and I won't bother with base models which don't fit my use (and I assume most other users). I understand why Apple sells those but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.
Lol

The iPhone ships,with 16,64, or 128 gigs of storage. When talking about an SD card and referring to 10+ times the storage, there is only one value that fits my statement.

Knowing this, and choosing the values that obviously do not match, shows that you are not interested in debating the topic at hand, only in throwing FUD into the mix. Especially since you deleted the last two words in one of my quotes, referring to the 10+ storage shipped BY DEFAULT.

Pick someone else to derail, I'll have none of it.

Good day
 
You could be right about sometime in the future but right now on my 6s+ it is not implemented very well. Sometimes it yields useful information. Sometimes not and it's been 5 months since release. Then it seems to add a degree of difficulty that does need to be there. I forget to use it most of the time.

I can understand. Apple needs to implement 3D Touch next on the iPad Pro 2, to add more functionality to the iPad iOS . And they need to replace the mechanical home button on the 7+ by a on screen 3D /force touch home button, to start further development of 3D/force touch.
But they have to start somewhere, it is a first step. That first stap isn' t taken by android phone manufacturers right now, so it will take at least another year before android catches up.
It is the fingerprint/64 bit soc story all over again....
I don' t mind, but Apple is always blamed for not being innovative anymore...
If Apple isn' t innovative, what does that say about the other smartphone manufacturers? Even less innovative??
 
I can understand. Apple needs to implement 3D Touch next on the iPad Pro 2, to add more functionality to the iPad iOS . And they need to replace the mechanical home button on the 7+ by a on screen 3D /force touch home button, to start further development of 3D/force touch.
But they have to start somewhere, it is a first step. That first stap isn' t taken by android phone manufacturers right now, so it will take at least another year before android catches up.
It is the fingerprint/64 bit soc story all over again....
I don' t mind, but Apple is always blamed for not being innovative anymore...
If Apple isn' t innovative, what does that say about the other smartphone manufacturers? Even less innovative??
I think Apple is innovative...but maybe not so much as they used to be?
I would love to see TouchID on the screen for the IP7.
My complaint about 3DT is the implementation and it is not intuitive imho.
I agree with you that Apple leads the way in in the smartphone space in a lot of things. But not all of them. Android OEMs are adding features that Apple doesn't and vice versa. Anyway it is good for us consumers because we get better products to choose from. :)
 
I think Apple is innovative...but maybe not so much as they used to be?
I would love to see TouchID on the screen for the IP7.
My complaint about 3DT is the implementation and it is not intuitive imho.
I agree with you that Apple leads the way in in the smartphone space in a lot of things. But not all of them. Android OEMs are adding features that Apple doesn't and vice versa. Anyway it is good for us consumers because we get better products to choose from. :)
Yes, competition is always better.
But I don' t see a lot of innovation from android manufacturers. Perhaps in software features and improving current existing hw. Lg is trying now with add on boards, and there are a few things about fast charging and the so call wireless charging with matts (with a cord). And there is of course VR, but that is all about developing a headset for your phone right now. But I don' t see it.
 
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Yes, competition is always better.
But I don' t see a lot of innovation from android manufacturers. Perhaps in software features and improving current existing hw. Lg is trying now with add on boards, and there are a few things about fast charging and the so call wireless charging with matts (with a cord). But I don' t see it.
I think Samsung is very innovative.
Can't wait for this

 
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