Samsung Announces Galaxy S7 and S7 Edge With Expandable Storage, Larger Battery

[Surf Donkey]

Yes, competition is always better.
But I don' t see a lot of innovation from android manufacturers. Perhaps in software features and improving current existing hw. Lg is trying now with add on boards, and there are a few things about fast charging and the so call wireless charging with matts (with a cord). But I don' t see it.

So LG is trying.... but not innovative huh? Nothing innovative about a modular phone. But Apple basically making a fancy long press is innovative. Because that will allow for a different body structure which will be innovative when Apple does it. Ok.

 

[ValO]

I think Samsung is very innovative.
Can't wait for this

Yes, I have seen it for the last 3 years now, but except for a few phones with a fixed curved screen, I haven' t seen it yet in a product. And there are lots of screen manufactures that have shown foldable screens, not just Samsung .
If they finally make a real and good product that features a foldable or rollable display I' ll call them innovative, for sure!
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So LG is trying.... but not innovative huh? Nothing innovative about a modular phone. But Apple basically making a fancy long press is innovative. Because that will allow for a different body structure which will be innovative when Apple does it. Ok.

It is not a long press, it is a hard or softer press. But I agree, but Apple is at least delivering the tech right now. Every new technique needs a start.
Just like the Apple TV, it isn' t a home run , it is far from a home run . But it gets things(App Store, os , streaming services, cord cutting and game development started and in The next 3 years they will release an Apple TV that blows current x box one and ps4 out of the water.
You want revolution, but you' ll never get that with Apple , they keep improving and in a few years, you' ll get the product that you expected from the start.
It is all about yields, costs and the difficulty of producing millions of products without getting troubles in manufacturing or with supply. Apple will always walk this thin line between demand, yields and supply.
So you get evolution in stead of revolution.
Apple doesn' t make products for the showcase and products which has manufacturing issues and allow them to deliver just 3 million in a year.

 

[jamezr]

Yes, I have seen it for the last 3 years now, but except for a few phones with a fixed curved screen, I haven' t seen it yet in a product. And there are lots of screen manufactures that have shown foldable screens, not just Samsung .
If they finally make a real and good product that features a foldable or rollable display I' ll call them innovative, for sure!
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It is not a long press, it is a hard or softer press. But I agree, but Apple is at least delivering the tech right now. Every new technique needs a start.
Just like the Apple TV, it isn' t a home run , it is far from a home run . But it gets things(App Store, os , streaming services, cord cutting and game development started and in The next 3 years they will release an Apple TV that blows current x box one and ps4 out of the water.
You want revolution, but you' ll never get that with Apple , they keep improving and in a few years, you' ll get the product that you expected from the start.
It is all about yields, costs and the difficulty of producing millions of products without getting troubles in manufacturing or with supply. Apple will always walk this thin line between demand, yields and supply.
So you get evolution in stead of revolution.
Apple doesn' t make products for the showcase and products which has manufacturing issues and allow them to deliver just 3 million in a year.

The next 3 years they will release an Apple TV that blows current x box one and ps4 out of the water.

So apply your thoughts concerning Samsung and the foldable/bendable display phones....to your Apple TV post above......
at least Samsung has POC with it's foldable displays. The ATV is just one of a very crowded set top box space. Some other do it a little better and out sells the ATV.

 

[ValO]

So apply your thoughts concerning Samsung and the foldable/bendable display phones....to your Apple TV post above......
at least Samsung has POC with it's foldable displays. The ATV is just one of a very crowded set top box space. Some other do it a little better and out sells the ATV.

I just replied to your comments and wanted too let you know what the difference is between apple and Samsung .

Apple doesn' t show tech demo' s and comes with products that need too evolve before becoming the next big thing. But they produce and sell a sh.tload of this " needing to evolve" product.

Samsung shows the next big thing, but doesn' t release a real product featuring it. And when they finally do, it will be limited in quantities.

That is the difference, don' t have an opinion which is better.

 

[LordVic]

Your words:

The iPhone 6s ships with 128GB. 10+ times that amount would be about 1TB.
You can get ultra portable HDDs with up to 3TB that are way cheaper, more reliable and without the cumbersomeness of micro cards and flaps.

What's the point of using SD cards if you never swap them out? When you buy removable storage, it's to be removed, right?

Who said you had to buy the 16GB model? My first iPhone had 32GB and I won't bother with base models which don't fit my use (and I assume most other users). I understand why Apple sells those but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone.

I cant believe you aren't grasping how silly you are sounding.

an internal microSD slot means that you can currently store up to 512GB of additional media in your phone. Thats Movies, Games, Recording, Music. etc.

IN YOUR PHONE

without ever having to carry multiple devices. Your advocating that "just bring a WD passport" with you. Means you're carrying around not only your phone, But a portable hard drive, with it's wires to use it.

How is that in any way more convenient than internally accessible storage inside the phone? or better?

The BONUS on top of that, is you're not limited to just 512gb. You're limited to, however many cards you want to carry with you. They're tiny, yes, a downside is losing them, but an upside is, you can store dozen or so in your wallet without even noticing.

That means, you're carrying with you, Multiple TB of information, that can easily be swapped and accessed inside your phone.

With modern phones like the S6/S7 being able to record in 4k, this means you can now go hours of recording on memory card.

Not something you're going to be doing with your phone + portable drive.

I get that this isn't somethign that everyone will find advantages of. But it's by no means useless. You also don't have to use a memory card if the default 32gb is sufficient. If you do happen to run out of space on 32gb, you don't have to buy a new phone, you don't have to worry about deleting things, you can just buy more memory for fractions of the cost of a new, larger phone, and just add it in.

To argue that this is somehow a bad thing is insane, and indicates you really don't have the knowledge to be making the claims you are.

 

[AFEPPL]

I have to say I'm impressed.... I like it, screen looks stunning and the sd card is so much better.

 

[a0me]

Lol

The iPhone ships,with 16,64, or 128 gigs of storage. When talking about an SD card and referring to 10+ times the storage, there is only one value that fits my statement.

Knowing this, and choosing the values that obviously do not match, shows that you are not interested in debating the topic at hand, only in throwing FUD into the mix. Especially since you deleted the last two words in one of my quotes, referring to the 10+ storage shipped BY DEFAULT.

Pick someone else to derail, I'll have none of it.

Good day

Your post didn't make it clear that you wanted to compare with the 16GB model, a model that anyone with a clue would never buy. Knowing this shows that you are not interested in debating the topic at hand which certainly wasn't comparing the cheapest handsets from each manufacturer.
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You can easily upgrade storage without buying a whole new phone. Swapping in a larger card after six months or so when prices for larger capacity cards have come down hardly counts as fiddling but it's much more cost-effective than upgrading the whole phone (assuming it's still performing otherwise fine).

Maybe, but this isn't relevant to how most people I know use their iPhone. They buy the model that fits their usage and move/backup whatever doesn't fit on their device to the cloud, a HDD, their laptop, etc. They don't need to buy a new phone every year either.

 

[Sefstah]

200GB wouldn't be enough for me to do that. Particularly with pictures as well.

A huge improvement over anything else so far though.

 

[a0me]

I get that this isn't somethign that everyone will find advantages of. But it's by no means useless. You also don't have to use a memory card if the default 32gb is sufficient. If you do happen to run out of space on 32gb, you don't have to buy a new phone, you don't have to worry about deleting things, you can just buy more memory for fractions of the cost of a new, larger phone, and just add it in.

To argue that this is somehow a bad thing is insane, and indicates you really don't have the knowledge to be making the claims you are.

I'm arguing that this is useless to me and -if the millions of iPhone sold every year are any indication- to many others. I buy the model that fits my usage and move/backup whatever doesn't fit on it to the cloud or my MacBook, etc. and I'm done. Never had to buy a new phone because I ran out of space (who does that?) or worry about deleting things either.

 

[Sefstah]

Looks like more of the same.

Not as much as the 6 vs. 6S
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Pathetic how people here are already discrediting the phones. They look absolutely gorgeous - the screen quality, battery life, water proof, and having the ability to use micro SD cards. I'll say it now - Apple's last phones have been ****. Battery life is the only redeeming factor on my 6plus, but if Samsung can make a 5.1 inch phone that has the same sized battery with a more ergonomic feel to it (With all of the features I mentioned earlier), I'll probably make the switch.

Was thinking of going with the 5SE, but with how pathetic the 6/s battery is, I'm doubting that it'll be any better. Before worshiping your Jobs/Cook shrines without having any attachments to these companies financially, try to act like an intelligent consumer who looks at the pros and cons of each company, and getting the best product you can from these lines - instead of limiting yourself for the sake of being a fanboy.

Well said! I totally agree, wake up people!
[doublepost=1456354216][/doublepost]How can so many people act like their not impressed with this awesome phone?? Im hoping Apple will top these features and raise the bar for us customers. Please?!?

 

[cmChimera]

A huge improvement over anything else so far though.

Maybe for pure size. SD cards don't exactly perform as well as internal storage so, personally, it's a wash for me.

 

[ChewbacasThong]

My only serious gripe with my S6 (and it will probably be present with the S7's) is how hot the god damn phone gets so quickly. Like there are times when I can literally feel it slightly burning my hand while holding it. I mean, yeah my 6 Plus would heat up but never to the point to where I could toss carne asada onto my phone and make myself tacos.

 

[JCrz]

Uhhh.... it would be interesting to see that quote. Because incoming light = aperture and sensor size. A 16 million x improvement means a 4,000x increase in diameter. So if there current camera is a scant 1 mm across, their new camera is larger than my office.

But you said "per pixel", so it's quite possible they now only capture a single pixel, and then this makes perfect sense.

It was a joke. All else being equal, a 1-pixel sensor should capture roughly 12 million times as much light per pixel as a 12-megapixel sensor. I was joking about how Samsung made a big deal out of more light per pixel because they reduced the pixel count.

The amount of light "captured" isn't just aperture and sensor size—it's also the ability of sensor to absorb photons and the underlying technology to perform the analog-to-digital conversion. Lots of factors there and also a question of quality (e.g., what is considered a better low-light sensor to one person could mean an unusably noisy image to another).

Soon the shape of the sensor will be a factor, too. Curved sensors will (in theory) allow better light collection from oblique angles near the edges of the lens resulting in less vignetting (darkness around the edges).

Samsung makes some very, very good compact cameras and their phones are great, too. Hopefully Apple will one-up them with the iPhone 7.

 

[Count Blah]

Your post didn't make it clear that you wanted to compare with the 16GB model, a model that anyone with a clue would never buy. Knowing this shows that you are not interested in debating the topic at hand which certainly wasn't comparing the cheapest handsets from each manufacturer.

Here is my EXACT post.

Yeah, that one time microSD flap access needed for 10+ times the amount of storage apple ships,by default?

I can really see how you can take that statement, and start inferring 1TB of data.

Please just move along. No one is talking 1TB of storage in a phone. At least for a couple more years. So go fight your imaginary war, somewhere else.

 

[Sefstah]

Maybe for pure size. SD cards don't exactly perform as well as internal storage so, personally, it's a wash for me.

How can you complain about a feature your phone doesn't have? And what exactly are you "performing" with your SD card? The original post was talking about music. SD cards handle that pretty well.

 

[cmChimera]

How can you complain about a feature your phone doesn't have? And what exactly are you "performing" with your SD card? The original post was talking about music. SD cards handle that pretty well.

I didn't complain.

 

[TheMacApple]

Samsung makes some very, very good compact cameras and their phones are great, too. Hopefully Apple will one-up them with the iPhone 7.

Lol, reminds me of an old skit with cat and dog each trying to out do each other.
Given the time frame ya know the iPhone 7 is gonna smoke the s7. But then the note 6 or S8 is gonna fight back. Be interesting to see where phones are performing with the iPhone / galaxy 20's

 

[Blaze4G]

Your post didn't make it clear that you wanted to compare with the 16GB model, a model that anyone with a clue would never buy. Knowing this shows that you are not interested in debating the topic at hand which certainly wasn't comparing the cheapest handsets from each manufacturer.
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Maybe, but this isn't relevant to how most people I know use their iPhone. They buy the model that fits their usage and move/backup whatever doesn't fit on their device to the cloud, a HDD, their laptop, etc. They don't need to buy a new phone every year either.

FACT: Most iPhone users buy the 16GB version.

Based on your analysis, most people are satisfied with 16 GB then right?

Most people who buy the 16GB model, buy it because it is the cheapest. Not because it fits their usage.

Question: moving to the cloud, HDD / laptop is more convenient than keeping it all on your phone? That seems like a hassle. I can bet 9 out of 10 persons would prefer to keep all their pics, music, etc on their phone than have to transfer to some other data storage.

 

[smellysox8]

Most iPhone users were satisfied with a 3.5" screen. Until Apple told them 4" is better. People here are just waiting for Apple to tell them what they should like.

 

[Blaze4G]

Most iPhone users were satisfied with a 3.5" screen. Until Apple told them 4" is better. People here are just waiting for Apple to tell them what they should like.

I totally agree. When apple goes OLED they will be like "wow! the contrast is so good! This is the best screen I have ever used. Apple invented a great screen!" Then when you mention Samsung had it for years their reply will be "oh well Apple did it right, it just works, unlike Samsung over saturated crap".

 

[Truefan31]

Most iPhone users were satisfied with a 3.5" screen. Until Apple told them 4" is better. People here are just waiting for Apple to tell them what they should like.

Afaik people are free to spend their money as they like. If Apple increased display size they're not forcing anyone to buy it.

 

[Truefan31]

I totally agree. When apple goes OLED they will be like "wow! the contrast is so good! This is the best screen I have ever used. Apple invented a great screen!" Then when you mention Samsung had it for years their reply will be "oh well Apple did it right, it just works, unlike Samsung over saturated crap".

If they go oled I hope it will be as good as advertised. Imo I think they should go micro led but the tech is still new.

I think most if not all have said Samsung Galaxy phones have good/great/best displays. But that doesn't mean the iPhone has terrible displays.

 

[jrswizzle]

I think Samsung should also offer a 128GB for those that want more internal store. But realistically all the criticism about "slow" sd cards may be getting weakened by the fact that sd cards keep getting faster all the time. And realistically, how fast do you need your internal storage to be to load a song?

And by the way, those 128GB in your iPhone, you still need to sync media through a USB 2.0 bottleneck, so all that internal speed is useless for syncing.

Who syncs data over a wire? What is this, 2007?
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I agree.. More memory is nice. Every time I open safari it has to reload the page. And that's with only one page open..


James

What page is reloading? Perhaps one with refreshed content? Did you know iOS intentionally refreshes apps and info, not because of RAM limitations but, because the system is designed to learn what times you use certain apps and services so as to refresh and provide up to date info when needed rather than have those apps/services running willy nilly in the background....

Except Facebook. That app is the opposite of efficient.

At any rate, I always had a hard time forcing safari to reload pages on my 6 Plus...never have the issue on my 6S Plus...unless the above scenario or I move in and out of network connectivity.

 

[trifid]

Who syncs data over a wire? What is this, 2007?

Indeed, USB2? what's this, 2005? If I have a 128GB iPhone, I'd rather sync via USB 3 in cases where I had to reset the phone or get a new one, and transfer entire 128GB backup. Or If I need to constantly transfer HD/4K movies that I recorded from the phone, for example. I'd be much faster than wifi/cellular, not to mention no risk of going over data caps.

But I guess USB 3 cuts into Apple margins and we are stuck with 2005 tech.

 

[\-V-/]

Who syncs data over a wire? What is this, 2007?

It's 2016 ... where people sync over a wire. Not really a crazy thing.