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I can count on one hand the number of people I've known with an extra battery for their phone. (Spoiler: Zero. And I work in a fairly large IT Helpdesk group, where I'm one of three iPhone users)

I think most people who think about buying a spare battery don't because a practical charger like that of the Z10 is not available for their phone.

Or even a not so practical one, that they would live at home, but still allowed them to charge both batteries without having to swap them in the phone.
 
It characterizes apple users quite accurately. Do you thing samsung would spend the money on this ad if there was no truth in the bash?

If not for iTunes, there are plenty of better phones. iTunes keeps people from leaving.

The only thing I use iTunes for is music, which is of course DRM free. So the reason I use an iPhone is not iTunes... I couldn't care less about iTunes... it's because I prefer iOS.
 
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It's a made-up problem for most people.
If you wait a few years to update your battery, you will upgrade to a new phone instead.

So, just because the battery is old, I have to throw my perfectly functional phone and spend 700 USD to get a new one. Makes sense, and it seems great for the environment. I will do the same when my car tyres get old :rolleyes:


Apple also use higher quality parts.

You mean like the SoC and memory manufactured by Samsung and others?
Or the display made by LG, Samsung and others?


We heard of quite a few cases where Samsung phone caught fire but their legal people make their customers sign NDA before agreeing to swap the phone. There was a huge hoohah with a YouTube video that blew this up.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/02/03/iphone-5c-catches-fire-in-students-pocket-causes-second-degree-burns

Because of the higher quality parts and higher demand, iPhones have higher resale value too.

iPhones have higher resale value, that's true, but not because of the quality.

In comparison, Samsung drop their new phone price FAST to generate the illusion that people want their phone. It is a better deal to wait 6 or more weeks to get Samsung new phones. The differences can be in the region of hundred.
The longer you wait, the cheaper it gets.

So, the phone getting cheaper over time is bad for consumers becauseee... ¿¿??

Then again, if you just want a cheap phone, the Chinese ones are definitely cheaper from the getgo. That's why Samsung is losing out to them as we speak.

As for water resistance, there is a YouTube video comparing iPhone 5s and Samsung's flagship. The iPhone shutdowns quickly. But when the presenter let it dry out and turn it into, it still works. Samsung lasts longer but still shut itself down. Not much of a difference if both shutdown and work after drying out.

Look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9J611BuXhw


But you have to be careful. Samsung's phone may need you to close out the USB port flap before it is fully water resistance. If you leave it open, it may not perform to spec.

If you leave a door open someone could enter, so?? Is that supposed to be a defect?

The Lightning port on the iPhone is water proof.

Any evidence? and in any case, the rest of the phone is not.
 
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I think most people who think about buying a spare battery don't because a practical charger like that of the Z10 is not available for their phone.

Or even a not so practical one, that they would live at home, but still allowed them to charge both batteries without having to swap them in the phone.

There's a similar charger for the Q10, too. I'd never checked before, I assumed it existed:

http://shop.crackberry.com/blackberry-battery-charger-bundle/8A37A14090.htm
 
When I had the S2 and S3 I purchased two spare batteries for £8. Kept one in my work bag and one in the car.

Very rarely had to use them, but the fact I had them with me incase of emergencies is such a piece of mind.
 
Anothe benefit of removable battery - change battery at home without making a visit to Apple support store.

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Since the lightning connector came out I have found the iPhone charges faster - better than 1%/minute with the genuine charger

I'm curious - how quickly do Android phones charge?

Very fast if you use the bundled charger. My S4 charges very fast - at par with the iPhone 5
 
The LAST thing I want to do is carry around a bunch of spare batteries. Thanks anyway Samsung.
Oh and if I wanted more battery I would simply buy something like the Monster Mobile PowerCard 1650mAh Portable Battery Pack. Problem solved. Also my car has USB ports built in. Nice try Samsung.
 
So you'll carry a battery pack but heaven forbid an extra battery??

I suggest you rethink your argument as it seems childish.

Yeah. The battery pack is part of the case, so it's compact and not clunky. You can also charge both the pack and your iPhone together. Carrying a loose battery around that you've got to charge separately is ridiculous. Is that what you do or would do with a phone with a removable battery?
 
How is this more convenient than a removable battery? It's an extra piece of equipment you have to carry with you that makes using a phone cumbersome and spoils the iPhone's selling point as being the sleekest, most unobtrusive gadget you can have. At least a replaceable battery that you can put INSIDE the phone doesn't get in the way... so Samsung's point still stands.

You still have to carry the extra battery with you, don't you?

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What if the iPhone screen was the same size and pixel density as the Galaxy?

What if the galaxy' screen would have the same light power output as the iPhone?
 
lol @ people getting defensive.

The iPhone battery is horrible. I'm actually wondering why people admit this so much to other iPhone fans but as soon as another company points this out, people get behind cover and defend it so much. Think about it. You're defending poor battery life.

The iPhone is incredibly optimized. It's not running on quad core processors or an unoptimized OS, Android phones most likely are. Usually it's the fact that Android phones just flat out offer better batteries but it's still embarrassing. When your phone can barely handle a full day without recharging it's pretty bad.

"Android phones have horrible battery life!!!"

No, they don't. Android has come a long way and is no longer that crappy OS. With Android L, it seriously looks amazing compared to iOS 8.
 
The LAST thing I want to do is carry around a bunch of spare batteries. Thanks anyway Samsung.
Oh and if I wanted more battery I would simply buy something like the Monster Mobile PowerCard 1650mAh Portable Battery Pack. Problem solved. Also my car has USB ports built in. Nice try Samsung.

Aren't you contradicting yourself? You don't want to carry around spare batteries but you carry a portable battery pack? That's like saying that you're not gay but I saw you get married to the same sex. ;)
 
This thread has turned into a pissing contest I guess. :eek:

I must be be the luckiest person to buy an iPhone because apparently I'm the only one who gets decent battery life.

Extra battery = battery case.

A Mophie battery case works well for me because it is attached to the phone, not something to have floating around that I'll need to look for if I need it. Also I like the shape and texture of the back that gives me a more secure grip when I'm working and handling gear, or on the go.

I think the 'wall hugger' demographic is small and being sensationalized by Samsung in order to provoke nerd wars and generate buzz about this perceived 'problem'.

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As I stated earlier I wouldn't object to a replaceable battery on the iPhone.

I do like my older MBP that has a swappable battery for situations where I will be away from power for extended periods of time, but in practice it's not that often.
 
LMAO Samsung's trolling of Apple iFans is a thing of beauty. It's makes some Apple fans, so angry lol jeez. To me, it's just an ad. We've all seen this kinda stuff before. Company A makes an Ad highlighting how they are better than company B. Motorola bashed the iPhone, AT&T bashed Verizon and Verizon bashed AT&T, Apple made fun of Windows. Hell I think Taco Bell and McDonalds had beef (no pun intended :p ) over their respective breakfast menu.

To me, it's an Ad. Nothing more, nothing less. It's simply highlighting a certain feature that they think makes their product better than their number 1 competitor's product. Some people just take this stuff way too seriously. I just don't see any reason to get that angry over an ad.
So, you don't see a difference in these words you wrote? Nothing that would bother everyday people?...

Motorola bashed the iPhone
AT&T bashed Verizon
Verizon bashed AT&T
Apple made fun of Windows

Samsung's trolling of Apple iFans

Hundreds of comments in this thread like yours, zero logic. And people think I'm a cold-hearted bastard.
 
The LAST thing I want to do is carry around a bunch of spare batteries. Thanks anyway Samsung.
Oh and if I wanted more battery I would simply buy something like the Monster Mobile PowerCard 1650mAh Portable Battery Pack. Problem solved. Also my car has USB ports built in. Nice try Samsung.

I also assume the last thing you would want to do if your battery fails, and they do even in the iPhone, is easily replace it yourself?

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I think the 'wall hugger' demographic is small and being sensationalized by Samsung in order to provoke nerd wars and generate buzz about this perceived 'problem'.



Worked perfect didn't it?

Last time I was in the US I noticed the wall hugger thing a lot more than I had seen before.
 
Samsung advertising that its phones have the best battery life is equivalent to Apple advertising that its phones have the biggest screens.

Have you never used a Note? Those things go for days. And S5 does have a very low power battery saving mode which was advertised here and it does only allow basic functionality but it will keep the phone going. And it is also true Sammy lets you swap out your battery while Apple never has.
 
apple can do 3 things...
increase battery,
make it user replaceable (not gonna happen)
do nothing (which most likely gonna happen)...

The battery life has steadily improved with every iteration of the iPhone. I see no reason that nothing will happen. The battery in the next iPhone will be better than the one in the 5S
 
Last time I was in the US I noticed the wall hugger thing a lot more than I had seen before.

I live and work in the US and don't see it the way Samsung makes it look likes it's everywhere all the time.

And yes Samsung succeeded in starting a minor nerd war. Getting a bunch of brand loyal fools on either side to fight with each other. Yay...
 
Battery life so good, you'll need spare batteries? Low power mode to allow only basic functionality? I'm not sure which of the two conflicting points they really want to make there - if battery life was so good, neither of those two would be necessary. The point I'll make is that I use my iPhone far more than I see others using their new Samsung devices - I have more reason to, and I'm sorry they don't have as much to entertain them on their devices. BTW, having your large-ass Note sitting in your pocket as a text messaging machine is not "using it for days".

And I've seen plenty of Android people running out of juice or constantly trying to borrow a microUSB cable from me to charge their device up, so unless this is new, I'm going to call bull$#!+ on this. :D
 
It's true that apple iPhone battery life is not great.

Making it hard for customers to replace their batteries also sucks.

But personally, I still find the iPhone to be a better experience despite a its shortcomings.

I am also not sure about removable battery.
Every time I used a note2 while abroad, I would drop it and the battery would fall out.
I was not a fan.
 
Battery life so good, you'll need spare batteries? Low power mode to allow only basic functionality? I'm not sure which of the two conflicting points they really want to make there - if battery life was so good, neither of those two would be necessary.

What do you mean?

If you want to retain full functionality, you can swap your battery.

If you only need basic features like calling and texting, you can use the power saving mode.

And if you just want a massive battery already in the phone, buy a Note, because they will go on for ages even without power saving or battery swapping.

Either way, you get more use out of a Samsung without plugging it in than you can with an iPhone, due to limitations put there by Apple itself - no replaceable battery, no power saving mode, and no ability to write a battery saving app.

The point I'll make is that I use my iPhone far more than I see others using their new Samsung devices - I have more reason to, and I'm sorry they don't have as much to entertain them on their devices.

I see a lot more people using Samsungs than iPhones. Therefore iPhones have less to entertain people with.

Except, wait, no, they both have virtually the exact same selection of games and social networking apps, and both are popular phones.

BTW, having your large-ass Note sitting in your pocket as a text messaging machine is not "using it for days".

You can use the Note as a proper smartphone and it will still go on for over a day. The Note is a beast.

And I've seen plenty of Android people running out of juice or constantly trying to borrow a microUSB cable from me to charge their device up, so unless this is new, I'm going to call bull$#!+ on this. :D

Android is pretty generic. A lot of cheap Android phones have crappy battery life.
 
I live and work in the US and don't see it the way Samsung makes it look likes it's everywhere all the time.

And yes Samsung succeeded in starting a minor nerd war. Getting a bunch of brand loyal fools on either side to fight with each other. Yay...

Of course not, it's exaggerated nor was I saying what I witnessed was like in the commercial exactly.
 
I'm starting to get a little tired of being called dumb by Samsung.
I won't buy any of their products.
 
The real world tests have shown the iPhone 5s on iOS7 to outperform the S5 in standby mode by 2:1 - the iPhone only consumes about 3% of its battery in a 12 hour standby with some background refreshing going on, the S5 was over 10%.

I don't know about usage, games, internet, and phone calls but my 4s wouldn't last a day, was always hovering around 15%-20% after 60 calls, and some usage.

The 5s is at 50-60% after the same usage, the only difference is the nearby cell tower was upgraded to 4G LTE and I am led to believe this is more power efficient than 3G was (otherwise the 5S is just more efficient and has a bigger battery).
 
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