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Btw: even though I don't like a larger screen I would like for Apple to come out with two phone sizes...regular and large...so people who do want a big phone won't have to get a crapDroid.

Only one thing: the larger iphone must be such that developers won't have to upload yet another different sized image. I don't care what anyone says, it's enough if a pain as it is with the current requirements. Let's continue to keep things simple Apple please!
 
2 things...

1) Whoever did that voiceover, it was woeful.

2) Could it look any more like an iPad?

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Oh, and why does he take the pencil, if his S-Pen is so reliable?
 
Why are you comparing smartphones and tablets to Wacoms? Obviously not the same thing.

You mean the "blind", screen-less Wacom input pads? Of course they aren't the same. However, if you have both a screen and a Wacom, you can use it as not only as a Wacom input pad, but also a self-standing artists' / note takers' / PDF annotaters' etc. pad.

This is why I love Wacom in any tablet. I've been using Wacom-enabled tablets for 11 years, starting with the HP TC1100 in 2003, and I do know how much versatile they are.

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Btw: even though I don't like a larger screen I would like for Apple to come out with two phone sizes...regular and large...so people who do want a big phone won't have to get a crapDroid.

Only one thing: the larger iphone must be such that developers won't have to upload yet another different sized image. I don't care what anyone says, it's enough if a pain as it is with the current requirements. Let's continue to keep things simple Apple please!
It's highly unlikely they'd come up with an odd resolution. The iPhone 6 surely won't have a Full HD screen, for example. Apple would shoot themselves in their foot by not releasing a screen with, say, 3x or 4x the non-Retina 320*568 pixels.

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So many Steve Jobs parrots here

Yup. Funny they don't have a clue why Wacom pens are so popular and what kinds of pens / touchscreen input Jobs originally referred to. (Not Wacom pens but, as I've pointed out previously, resistive, crappy ones. The Wacom + capacitive touch combo just can't be compared to the pre-2008 resistive pens & touchscreens. It was the latter that Jobs - rightfully - referred to: they were indeed awful. Exactly the opposite of Wacom + capacitive touch input.)

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And it is equally funny seeing so many posts from people that resort to name calling those that have criticized the ad or the Samsung products in the ad. You'd think someone was insulting their mother or family.

See what I did there.

Stating "you [anyone] obviously haven't ever handled a Wacom tablet and, therefore, your anti-Wacom statement is complete BS" isn't name calling but stating a fact. There are indeed many Apple fanboys here that ridicule Wacom pen input because Holy Jobs spoken against pen-based input. (The then-common and indeed awful resistive pens and touchscreens, actually, and definitely not Wacom ones. But these Apple fanboys hardly know the difference.)
 
The guy that represented PC looked/acted like a loser next to the Mac guy. It was offensive to PC users.

That said, you should avoid Apple. As for me, I'll stick to buying products based on their quality.

At the time I heard a fair number of people commenting that the Apple guy looked like a stoner/loser while the PC guy was trying to look corporate and businesslike, a good thing when they said it. Back then, PCs were serious systems while Apple was for the artsy crowd. As a result in context of the times the PC and Mac guys were just mimicking the prevalent stereotypes.

As far as buying quality, that's WHY I buy Apple.
 
I like my iPad

These ads are pathetic. Unfortunately, the public is easily duped by "bigger is better" messaging and we will soon be hearing Galaxy owners bragging about their phones being "true HD".

But I also like my Galaxy. Apple has only been releasing mostly thinner and lighter updates for some time in their mobile lineup ("Thinner and Lighter is better"). The Galaxy screen is better, the multi tasking is an awesome feature, and the S Pen is superb. I hate to say it, but Samsung devices may lack the polish of the iDevice lineup, but they have been quite innovative and at least they are willing to go out on a limb and try new stuff. Yes, they do miss sometimes (the ridiculous Galaxy Gear) but a lot of their stuff is quite good.

These are good ads.
 
How is that relevant to my question? Can you discern something being thinner than two pieces of paper? And if it's indistinguishable, and it's a selling point of the ad campaign, isn't it a bit pathetic? Is there one person that would buy it solely because it's 0.2 mm thinner than the Air? Especially if that extra thinness didn't buy you a lighter product?

That being said, I think the Tab Pro 10.1 looks like a fine tablet and look forward to getting my hands on one to demo. I just question Samsung's need to continually compare its products to Apple's. They should stop acting like little brother and let their products sell themselves. If they are indeed better, it will all get sorted out.

How is it not relevant to your question? What you're doing is attacking marketing with logic. No offense but that is a losing proposition. Real world relevance of 0.2mm? There is none and you are absolutely right. Marketing doesn't give a hoot. That's why it's so effective. Lawyer: "Is it thinner?" You: "Yes, but...". Lawyer: "Thank you, that is all."

It the exact same thing with the iMac. Marketing says the iMac is stunningly thin. No it's not. A narrow edge does not a thin computer make. Look at the imagery of the iMac. If one didn't know better one would think the iMac was razor thin and cordless. It's marketing, just the same way Samsung says the 10.1 is thinner.
 
Samsung is a garbage company and makes garbage products, but these ads really amused me. Much better than the "next big thing" series.
 
Absolutely nothing about watching a video of Lebron has to do with whether it's a phone, tablet, or phablet. So yes, watching it on an 8" iPad Mini trumps watching it on Samsung's tiny little 5.7" Note 3 if Samsung wants to do a silly "whose is bigger comparison".

And watching it on a 10" tablet trumps the mini, watching it on a 13" Laptop trumps a 10" tablet, which is trumped by watching on a 27" desktop, and so on. None of those comparisons are appropriate because they are not direct. Want to compare a mini? Use a Nexus 7 or I don't know, any of the 7-8" tablets.
 
Samsung will never stop harping on the bigger screen and multitasking (as if Apple doesn't have multitasking). The stylus is a joke, seriously are we going back to the Palm Pilot days?

Pretty much a repeat of last year with nothing new.
 
You spent quite some time on this forum calling names and, worse of all, displaying your lack of common sense… Give us a break please or, when posting, stay on subject..

Again: most of the people in this forum calling Wacom pen input useless simply don't have a clue what they have talking about. They think Jobs referred to current pen (& touchscreen) tech when (rightfully) dissing the then-common resistive pen-based input.

Back in time, what Jobs stated was right. But, again, he referred to resistive input and not to the combination of Wacom + capacitive touchscreen used by Samsung's pen-based products and MS Surface Pros.

Pointing out this by stating "you don't have a clue" isn't name calling but stating a fact. If one doesn't know / haven't used pen-based input, he shouldn't diss Wacom.
 
You know Samsung made a good commercial when there are so many Apple fans buthurt about it. :apple:
 
You know Samsung made a good commercial when there are so many Apple fans buthurt about it. :apple:

How true. Same stands for MS ads also emphasizing the superior split-window multitasking and/or Wacom pen input capabilities of the Surface RT (WRT multitasking only, obviously) or the Pro (WRT both). Then, we have the same "multitasking is useless" and "pen input is useless because Jobs said so" "arguments" here at MR.

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Nice 2 year old chart

Lolz... thanks for pointin it out... before late 2012 (before the release of the first Surface Pro and the Nexus 10), no sensible people would have purchased a non-iPad device. I wouldn't have purchased one either instead of the then-current iPad. (Again, for Wacom input, I already had Windows tablets. I speak of generic tablets mostly for media consumption.) No wonder almost noone bothered to purchase Samsung's "serious" tablet offerings back then - why would have they? It was only in late 2013 that they introduced double-res screens...

The iPads were, back in time, just much better than the other tablets, unless you did need Wacom and had to, consequently, use a, back in time, non-battery-friendly / heavy / hot-to-touch true Windows tablet.

The times have changed in the meantime - the competition has not only grown up (don't forget that, late 2013, the Surface Pro 2 and the at-last-Retina-res Samsung Notes have arrived, offering, at last, excellent screen res, battery life etc.) but also started offering some features iOS / iPads severely lack. No wonder both MS and Samsung emphasizes the advantages of multitasking and/or Wacom pen input in their ads.
 
Or three. Outside of HD video editing, I do just about everything I need to do on a daily basis on a Galaxy Note 2.

From time to time, I use a Windows 8 tablet to have the best of the tablet and desktop world.



My wife just got an iPad running iOS8

It got so hot she couldn't hold it.
It shut down.
It froze whenever using bloatware Apple standard apps that you can't remove (and others) and required a reset.
It kernel panicked, an actual iOS8 system error message stating Kernel Panic !!
Keyboard entry frequently exhibited 5-10 second lags.
The touch experience was utterly unresponsive.
The fake multitasking was a pain to use to close all of the open apps.
The notifications center was virtually unusable and a total rip off of Android.
Apple should be ashamed to release it as an innovative device.

That last comment you said was just wrong. Even Apple made the iPhone bigger . . . . well then again, maybe you do make some sense there.

I'm sorry, but all of the things you stated there are untrue and were made in a failed attempt at humour.

My original posting was all completely true and a very REAL experience of an ordinary everyday person who just wanted a digital device and all the functionality they purport to offer.
 
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Samsung will never stop harping on the bigger screen and multitasking (as if Apple doesn't have multitasking). The stylus is a joke, seriously are we going back to the Palm Pilot days?

You obviously don't know how immensely better a Wacom (radio) pen is compared to a resistive one (the Palm Pilot also had such a pen).
 
Seems to me these ads were created mostly for trolling and flame wars on the internet than for general consumers. Samsung knows that all the major tech sites would write about them as they'd drive page views.

What amazes is me is how much attention other companies give to a company they seem to think is so inferior. I mean how often does Coke mention Pepsi in their commercials? Or McDonalds mentioning Burger King? It's not like Samsung is some scrappy upstart that needs attention. Heck, last year they spent $14B on advertising. The last thing Samsung is lacking is attention. But for some reason they seem to want to give Apple more (free) attention. Odd.

Coke's #1 - Pepsi Attacks. McDonalds' #1 - BK Attacks. A quick youtube search will provide all the proof.

Premium phones: Apple #1 - Samsung Attacks. Why does this surprise people.
 
A phablet with an stylus to do pointless stuff that the actual user will never know is there (not to mention de cluttered UI)... Sounds profitable and enjoyable...

And I think two apps side by side is... Not a very good user experience. My personal opinion is that tablets are for intimate one app usage. If you want to be super productive and need more windows, get a MBA.
 
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Just like the Microsoft commercials, am I the only one that thinks these companies are actually doing Apple a favor by giving iPad/iPhone screen time?

Like Samsung saying the iPad does one thing, isn't that a plus if it actually does one thing and it does it darn well? And that close up of the pencil that then reveals the iPad, for a moment it's Apple advertisement.

The problem is that later in the ad is not really convincing that the alternate product is superior, so viewers are left with a vague impression of both products in their mind.

These commercials do no one a favor. Not Apple, not Samsung, not customers, no one. Well, maybe the add agency who got payed way too much for the end product.

Samsung products have their strong points. Those strong points add value to people's lives; I am sure of it. Yet these ads do absolutely no justice to why their products are better. Not one real life use case that people experience was depicted in the ads.

Well, I guess you can argue that watching a movie on a phablet is a real life use case. But who would really rather watch a movie on their phablet when they can watch on their twice as big tablet instead?
 
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