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Samsung Bashes the iPad, Microsoft Surface and Kindle in New Ad
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Well I hate their business practices , I hate their designs , I hate the way they are marketing machines and nothing else , I really hate the way they seem oblivious to certain things ( lorde's soundtrack to their ad incident ) , the way the lie to boost benchmarks , their tone deAf launches , want me to go on ?
I find it interesting that I kept thinking of my wife when watching the ad. She left iPad/iPhone combo for a Note 3 and claims it is better. Way better (for her).
So at least in my experience, the ad is not far off. The expression on the lady at the end after the "retina thingy" line? Priceless. It sums up the attitude here too.
I'll definitely be checking one out for myself, though, and see if it's for me. From what I can tell, it looks good. We'll see.
So at least in my experience, the ad is not far off. The expression on the lady at the end after the "retina thingy" line? Priceless. It sums up the attitude here too.
I'll definitely be checking one out for myself, though, and see if it's for me. From what I can tell, it looks good. We'll see.
They should have stopped before the last retina bit of the advert :
Multitasking =
Fair point well made
More pixels than retina is better =
Kind of lying to customers. If its retina you can't distinguish more pixels at normal viewing distances. So more pixels != better . Samsung know this, they are hoping consumers don't.
Theres a whole load of things they could have gone for that their tablet does that apples doesn't. Picking the pixel count makes them seem manipulative and dishonest.
Multitasking =
Fair point well made
More pixels than retina is better =
Kind of lying to customers. If its retina you can't distinguish more pixels at normal viewing distances. So more pixels != better . Samsung know this, they are hoping consumers don't.
Theres a whole load of things they could have gone for that their tablet does that apples doesn't. Picking the pixel count makes them seem manipulative and dishonest.
No, reality. iOS does lead Android in the Enterprise sector: http://www.cio.com/article/748138/N...ails_iOS_Dominance_Most_Popular_Business_Apps
You may be right about the science of the pixel count issue.
But to be honest, the first time I walked past the Samsung counter at Best Buy I was both surprised and impressed at the clarity and brightness of their screens. Hook one.
Perhaps it was due to screen size as well, but this then is also an attribute, not a detractor. Hook 2.
The next day I asked my company phone to be switched from an iPhone to an S4. The IT guy that handles the phones said most of the folks that had iPhones in the company switched. I could see the stacks of iPhones he had to return/reissue just sitting there.
For devices that are all screen, and it is what you see and interact with, it can make a significant impact.
I've been a Samsung phone user but I would never buy one of their tablets. The iPad is the supreme tablet experience because of its apps....something Android still doesn't have a lot of.
Stylistically, no. But they are both comparative ads meant to knock the competition and also make some fair points.
I don't own a single Android phone or tablet. No interest at all. But that's not to say I think iOS is feature perfect. There are plenty of things about iOS that frustrate me, such as the lack of true multitasking, central file storage system, or even being able to import songs to the Music app w/o a computer or iTunes Match.
Who is angry? The only people who I see being angry are those who complain when it is brought to their attention that Samsung creates stupid, annoying, ineffective ads. Apple fans are actually quite happy with these ads, since they are most definitely off-putting both to undecided buyers and to Samsung device owners.
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And look at the success.
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1. Because they have gazillions of customers, and because Apple, unlike other stores, is known to actually fix problems.
2. Because lots of people either need hand holding or want a product that offers hand holding if needed, but also because lots of these classes are not about using the product, but using it effectively. Like buying a set of paint brushes which "just work", but don't turn you into an instant artist.
Now as a customer, do you prefer Apple's "Genius"es and classes, or Samsung's no help, no nothing approach?
The problem with your analogy is - the green bay packers is one team doing one thing. Apple has many products. People can love many of them and not like others. People can love the company but not like certain aspects of it. And so on.
This isn't an iPad only website. So naturally, people can own iPhones but other tablets. That doesn't mean they aren't interested in iPads or news about iPads or have opinions about iPads. This site, in fact, has sub-forums that aren't Apple related.
I agree the battle is old. It's also stupid. I find the polarization silly. People should use the tech that's best for them and respect the fact that others have different use cases, wants and needs. And they should also realize that what they've chosen is best for them and not feel threatened by dissenting opinions.
I'm sorry - I don't even know what we're discussing anymore. Since when is "successful" part of the discussion. I was responding to someone that said no other competitor than Samsung has bashed the iPad in a commercial.
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Missed my point... I've received help for my Samsung devices at either the location I bought them, via phone or website. Same end result.. And they were very pleasant to deal with.
And again - who is talking about preference? Again - I responded to the OP who is asserting that people don't need help with Apple devices because they just work.
Samsung devices just work too. Everything has a learning curve. Especially if you've never used a smartphone before or have JUST switched from iOS to Android or Windows or from those platforms to iOS.
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You're either skipping posts or reading another thread. When people start screaming that they hate a company or put NOTICE in bold, big letters to rant about Samsung - that's not showing remote happiness with the ads. Clearly they are angry. Can you really tell me otherwise?
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I have to say I am happy a company has the "balls" to out other companies SHORT COMINGS!!!!
Way to go samsung,
this will hopefully make the others look at the products they are producing and produce BETTER products for us in the future..
I mean look at something simple like the htc one with FRONT FACING SPEAKERS!!! my my how common sense finally hit just one company?
I have a htc one, galaxy s4, iphone 5, and 5s, that i switch on and off as daily drivers but I seem to find my way back to the HTC one more often.
Way to go samsung,
this will hopefully make the others look at the products they are producing and produce BETTER products for us in the future..
I mean look at something simple like the htc one with FRONT FACING SPEAKERS!!! my my how common sense finally hit just one company?
I have a htc one, galaxy s4, iphone 5, and 5s, that i switch on and off as daily drivers but I seem to find my way back to the HTC one more often.
I agree with the music point and the file system , but isn't multi tasking down to the dev who developed the app ? I'm genuinely asking coz some apps run fine in the background like music and youtube , but others stop and I'm curious as to why , maybe an apple limitation
I really depends on what people perceive multitasking to be.
The comparison in this commercial was speaking to being able to have two apps side-by-side on the screen at the same time - both of which are functional. iOS can task switch and also have apps running (APIs) in the background.
Wrong.
1. Switching between multiple windows is much easier than faster than switching between full-screen tasks, even if you do the latter with multiple-finger left/right gestures.
2. seeing multiple windows simultaneously have a lot of additional advantages - not only playing a video with not-that-interesting parts while doing something else, but also, say, waiting for a buddy to make a move in a synchronous, non-push-based, turn-based online game like Spectromancer. In the latter, multiple windows are VERY useful because you in no way would otherwise get a notification of his move - you would need to constantly keep the game on the screen to see whether he has already moved.
Ask the people that have beeen asking Apple for mouse support. For example, anyone with remote desktop access need needs a mouse.
Resolution-wise it indeed isn't - there isn't much point in going to 400+ dpi. Neither is the screen of any 9.7" Retina iPads bad. However, the rMini's screen is, color reproduction0-wise, significantly worse than the 9.7" iPads / any high-end Samsung tablet. (Of course the ad haven't talked about this but the pretty irrelevant resolution.)
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Nope, some kind of functionality just can't be run in the background, unlike in, say, Android. That is, for example, you can't just background an app running, say, a lengthy (local) pathfinder algorithm.
BTW, this is why several games (e.g., the above-mentioned Spectromancer) also disconnect their network connection when backgrounded, making the above-explained "let's background the game while waiting for the opponent to make his step" not feasible.
This can only be "fixed" by using true multitask tweaks like "Background Manager" (iOS6+) or "Backgrounder" (pre-iOS6) or, if you're on an iPad still running iOS5, the absolutely great multiwindow tool "Quasar". On iOS6, the currently available, albeit much more constrained and less flexible, tweak is "VideoPane" (see https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1695838/ for more info).
That seems to be what I see too. For tablets, the iPad is quite a bit better. Phones? Not so much. I have to test our software on both Android and iOS devices and when it comes to tablets the ipad is a better experience. I dont own a smart phone but people here at work seem to really like their Sammy phones.
iOS can - but in a much more constrained way. That is, a lot of apps simply stop doing what they've done before, assuming they aren't doing stuff allowed by the iOS multitasking support. This is why you can't do offline computations or run "wait for the opponent to make his turn"-type of games in the background. Unlike under the, multitasking-wise, much more advanced Android - or, if you jailbreak and use the above-listed tweaks.
Exactly. More tech-savvy people seem to prefer high-end Android phones to the iPhone. (I myself love my iPhone5 because it's JB'n and can record calls / run f.lux / tweak the camera etc. Without JB'ing, I wouldn't use the iPhone5 as my primary phone but the Nokia 808 instead. Without the 808, I'd go for something Android-based as it also offers a call recording and an open environment, in addition to having some kick-ass hardware.)
Not so with tablets. I, in addition to a lot of iPads (incl. the latest rMini), also have an N7 2013. I never use it (apart from development) - the rMini, despite its disadvantages (much lower-quality screen, lack of Qi recharging / stereo speakers being the most painful), provides much better experience overall.
Well I would guess that kind of multi talking is limited to screen size also , but when people say I wish the iPhone has "true multitasking " I always wonder what the hell they're talking about and what they think multitasking is , I'm fine with the way ios works I just want a bigger screen with a slightly bigger form factor. iPhone 6 and ios 8+ smart watch are on my wish list
Samsung are unquestionably great at many things. For one thing their SSDs rock.
When it comes to panels, Samsung is also at the very front. But the software/hardware they use for controlling their panels (especially when it comes to color) in their own products is, imho, very far from being a benchmark or something to desire.
Hence a Samsung panel in an Apple product may very well perform way better than the exact same panel in a Samsung product.
When it comes to advertising, bashing your competitors is rarely a winning strategy. But I do like that we are having a discussion about multi-tasking now (in relation to being able to view more apps than one at a time).
Is it a desireable feature on tablets? For everyone? Or just power users? Should it be there for those who think it makes tablets much better? Or not, because it introduces more complexity?
I/we have Microsoft/Samsung/Google to thank for that, I guess. : )
Not to derail this awesome thread...
Not to continue derailing, but I agree. I have 2 55" Panny plasmas and they are incredible.
Far superior to the 65" Sammy in my living room. But when watching a movie, I don't notice the Sammy's (relatively minor) issues (unless there is a really, really dark scene), and the screen size (gasp!) increase makes it worth using.
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I don't believe that was the intent of the ad.
I find it useful and informative to know what a product can or cannot do when compared to competitors.
For me, the ad is effective in showing (and yes, poking a bit of fun) its attributes while pointing out an unsaid truth: not all tablets are the same or can do the same things.
No one else has done this explicitly. Ever.
Sammy has actually taken a page from Apple's most effective ads (when they show what their devices can do and how) and combined it with the exposure of the lack of uniformity in "tablet" capability.
I think the ad is excellent, funny, and poignant. Whether the product is as good as it claims remains to be seen. But that is not the point of an ad. The point is to inform and generate interest in a particular product.
This ad did so, at least for me.