This seems to be hugely a matter of opinion. IMO Apple was very rude and insulting to PC users, more than even Samsung is in this ad.
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Samsung Bashes the iPad, Microsoft Surface and Kindle in New Ad
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This seems to be hugely a matter of opinion. IMO Apple was very rude and insulting to PC users, more than even Samsung is in this ad.
as a predominantly PC user, I did not appreciate basically being personofied as a chubby, akward, four eyed geek with lots of personality problems....
I am constantly aware what I am
I dont need to be reminded of itPlain and simple. The Mac v PC ads were very insulting.
It amazed me that anyone could see multi windows as better then double tap to switch?
I mean come on, it's just as fast and doesn't disconnect a call, also means you can complete a task before getting distracted into another.
I have a laptop and never multitask with windows side by side instead i do the pc equivalent of tabbing.
Honestly samsung is on the wrong track with their tablets.
on a side note i know mac said themselves in ads that it was pc vs mac but a mac is a personal computer as well.
I mean come on, it's just as fast and doesn't disconnect a call, also means you can complete a task before getting distracted into another.
I have a laptop and never multitask with windows side by side instead i do the pc equivalent of tabbing.
Honestly samsung is on the wrong track with their tablets.
on a side note i know mac said themselves in ads that it was pc vs mac but a mac is a personal computer as well.
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Agreed. If Apple had used two good looking hipsters instead, with one using Windows and one using MacOS explaining why it was better, then that would've been a lot nicer.
At least Samsung usually throws in some good looking people on the Apple side. They're not all doofus looking like Apple's PC guy.
As for making Apple users look confused, let's note again that Apple made their own users look clueless with those Apple Genius ads a couple of years ago.
I had completely forgot about those ads! if i remember right, they effectively said "We know you're stupid, WE CAN HELP! WE HAVE GENIUSES!"..
"I" is the key word in your sentence where you describe YOUR opinion.
For myself and my opinion it seems like the Apple ads humanized macs and PCs. So a consumer would identify themselves with either the cool, hip and smart Justin Long, or the doddering, flabby, wimpy, stupid Hodgeman. At least in the Samsung commercials everyone looked about the same and they focused more on the hardware. Samsung says you made a stupid decision if you buy another product. Apple says you ARE stupid if you buy another product. That's why IMO the Apple ads are worse, have much less class and are more insulting.
Look, in the end we are all just kind of inflating our opinions for the sake of the discussion. Personally, while I see the derogatory slant of the mac/pc ads I could care less. I have half a brain and can see for myself that it's just marketing and I'm never going to be in a store buying a computer and say "wait, will I look like the PC guy from the Apple commercials if I buy this PC?". But it just annoys me to no end how people hypocritically believe that the Apple ads were somehow more innocent, or "classy".
Bullying? Really?
Its seems like a pretty gentle teak of tablet competitors to me. And also, multitasking on a tablet is cool: five years of apple and ms trying to shove full screen apps down my throat is not
I haven't seen MS shove full screen apps down anyones throat. If anything MS is head and shoulders above Samsung in terms of multitasking, and Samsung is miles ahead of Apple who happily trails the pack. This is why I never understood why the ipad went backwards in so many areas, well I can understand that 5 years ago the technology was different in terms of packaging a computer into a tablet, but that's not true anymore. There is no excuse not to have multi tasking anymore. It's kind of like a company not having cut and paste for years, I mean what company would be dumb enough to do something like that?
That's not what I was saying at all. I am saying people literally, in a retail envornment. honestly and TRULY believe that Apple is better because "the retina thingy". They have no idea what it truly even means, but Apple has coined the term and therefore they must have it.
The other good one is when people ask if the [insert non Apple product here] has a retina display, because if not, they aren't interested.
You must suffer from some psychological disorder. What's it called again.... Projection. Look it up. I'm not angry. That should be obvious from my posts. I'm having fun laughing at Samsung and people desperately trying to defend them. Admittedly, watching Samsung adverts is like watching a trainwreck, a bit of a guilty pleasure
Wow, you sound pretty angry to me.
Oh well. Another Samsung lover who get's all excited instead of taking it as a good bit of entertainment.
Is this the new 'doesn't support flash' thing?
Right. Because lacking flash, which is instead replicated (sometimes better) in other ways is exactly like lacking multitasking, which means you simply don't have the functionality at all.
If Apple products "just work" why do I have to use two (!) third party apps (Smooth Mouse and BetterTouchTool) to have basic 5-button mouse functionality that works natively and perfectly in Windows?
It's the year 2014 and Apple still can't drive a mouse properly. B-b-b-but Apple products just work...
or worse, the megahertz war of yesteryear.
Never quite understood why Apple put a stake in that ground...
Here's some information for you: LinkYou must suffer from some psychological disorder. What's it called again.... Projection. Look it up. I'm not angry. That should be obvious from my posts. I'm having fun laughing at Samsung and people desperately trying to defend them. Admittedly, watching Samsung adverts is like watching a trainwreck, a bit of a guilty pleasure
Oh well. Another Samsung lover who get's all excited instead of taking it as a good bit of entertainment.
1. Regarding using multiple windows on the desktop: While, despite the (for a notebook) huge screen estate (17" MBP), I generally also maximize my apps, there are a LOT of cases when I need to switch to multi-window view. Just some examples from today:
- quick drag-and-dropping files between Finder windows
- reading a bitmapped e-mail address in a Web browser (meaning no copy/paste) and entering it in a Mail's "To" field to avoid having to have to remember the email address
etc.
In cases, visible, multiple windows are highly useful.
2. WRT your statement "I mean come on, it's just as fast and doesn't disconnect a call, also means you can complete a task before getting distracted into another. "
Well, indeed for example Skype / Facebook / phone calls aren't disconnected. A lot of stuff that COULD sensibly be backgrounded are disconnected - see for example my remarks on playing turn-based multiplayer games and waiting for the opponent's turn in a game not using push notifications. (Spectromancer and similar games are too fast to be meaningfully played fully asynchronously, via push notifications.)
In iOS, as I've pointed out above, it's impossible to implement a lot of common tasks to be run in the background. As I've also explained above, iOS's multitasking support is far inferior to even stock Android; that is, Android without windowed multitasking support. (And Samsung's / LG's windowed multitasking makes all this even better.)
It's plain ridiculous that all other, major tablet platforms support at least proper backgrounding, and many of them (Windows Pro, RT and Android's Samsung's / LG's dialect) also windowed multitasking - only the iPad is so freakingly dumb.
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It's a fruitless argument. Those who are so determined to insist there's no use will never find usefulness in it - even if you point right at it.
It's very much like when the first iPad came out and I said (on here) it really needs a camera. I had tons of flames thrown at me how stupid of an idea that would be. The iPad is too big to use as a camera. No one would use it to take pictures or shoot movies. How ridiculous. It would be so awkward to use for facetime.
Cut to iPad2 - and everyone talking about how great that camera is and that the original iPads should have had one. What a worthy update. And wow - look at these movies and commercials some people have created using the iPad's camera.
You must suffer from some psychological disorder. What's it called again.... Projection. Look it up. I'm not angry. That should be obvious from my posts. I'm having fun laughing at Samsung and people desperately trying to defend them. Admittedly, watching Samsung adverts is like watching a trainwreck, a bit of a guilty pleasure
Oh well. Another Samsung lover who get's all excited instead of taking it as a good bit of entertainment.
Why did you call other folks angry? Double standard?
Par for the course for you.
(Quick remark: I've added a second part to my prev. post in the meantime.)
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Again: I don't find these ads insulting at all. There have been some insulting ads of Samsung (like the iSheep one) but this definitely isn't one of them.
This ad had some stupid points (e.g., dissing Windows tablets because of the keyboard/dock/mouse and stating it's because of the higher DPI that Samsung screens are better) but it does bring up some valid points; most importantly, the, from the iPad, paingully missing windowed multitasking.
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Again: I don't find these ads insulting at all. There have been some insulting ads of Samsung (like the iSheep one) but this definitely isn't one of them.
This ad had some stupid points (e.g., dissing Windows tablets because of the keyboard/dock/mouse and stating it's because of the higher DPI that Samsung screens are better) but it does bring up some valid points; most importantly, the, from the iPad, paingully missing windowed multitasking.
I also think (as I said in an earlier post) that "bashing" is too strong of a verb. Samsung is poking fun and mocking Apple and Microsoft. It's not remotely a bashing or slamming of their competition. It's poking the bear.
If people think THIS commercial is bashing, I can only imagine the reaction they would have if there was real bashing going on.
Hyperbole is hyperbole.
Admittedly, watching Samsung adverts is like watching a trainwreck, a bit of a guilty pleasure
This ad has nothing on the Samsung Gear ad with the creepy snowboarding guy. That was one for the books...
It might be acceptable if so many apps didn't insist on refreshing each time. In any case, it'd be great. Even if some of the basic functions didn't require you to leave the app to deal with (such as a quick-reply overlay that people seem to really want).
I would have to agree with you here. The multi-tasking is quite a bonus, and MS does it quite well (as is the ability to use USB peripherals and devices). I see what you did there, with the cut and paste..
