Samsung Compares Galaxy S9 to Very Slow iPhone 6 in Frivolous Ad

[czoli]

They barely do that. How embarrassing for them.

How embarrassing for Apple, it is amazing how they ruined the 6 and to be honest how they intentionally make the devices dog slow over time.

Keep in mind they kept selling it til September 2016.
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They used a 6 because of the battery slow down issue. It's fair game.

Nope, even if you disable the battery management the 6 is so amazingly slow that it is totally embarrassing, anything in a 6 is pretty much unusable and this tells a lot as to the longevity of Apple devices. We need to keep in mind it was on sale until end of 2016, if not wrong.

You can buy many android phones for less than 200 bucks who are light years faster than a 6. I bought one too at the end of 2016 and it run circles around the 6.

The 6 is so dog slow as it does not have enough RAM, sake will happen with X .. whole IOS is super optimized it still needs RAM and Apple is cheap when it gets to that bit still asks for premium prices.

Also keep in mind that second hand Apple devices sell very well and for an high price so there are people in certain countries who might have spent lots of money (by their standards) to get a Arvind hand 6 maybe ah year ago and got a phone which is dog slow.

 

[Merode]

They have a point. Apple is not playing fair with customers and is going downhill. I have no clue why people are still defending them.

My iPhone 4S has been used for years and not once has it turned itself off all by itself. It's anecdotal example but you never heard about battery issues before iPhone 6 - aka even slimmer phone design for the sake of slim.

When I got my iPhone 6S it was turning itself off even at 70% not one year after purchase. Of course, they ran battery replacement programme but before that Apple Support didn't help me one bit. Lady on the phone told me I can send it for repair but if diagnostics say it's ok (and they did, she ran them remotely on my phone) they won't do one thing even if I had evidence (videos) of it malfunctioning. I waged war on them for one month asking for replacement and they kept saying no. So much for people praising Apple Support - it was my only case with them and my opinion is they are the worst.

Going back to subject - iPhone 6 received same treatment as iPhone 4 with iOS 7. If anybody used iPhone 4 with iOS 7 they will know - my friend from uni had one. Mail, Phone, Messages took tens of seconds to start. Safari was much worse.

People still believe Apple is that benevolent being. Yes, you will get updates much longer but these updates will eventually kill your phone while that Samsung S-whatever (which I only used as job phone) will last much longer thanks to OS version freeze at some point. People also miss the point that a lot of Android devices have replaceable batteries.

1. To the people saying ad is pathetic - before becoming market leader Apple was notorious for the same type of ads. Even way before Mac vs PC. Anybody remember lemmings?
2. To the people saying 'but throttling was a feature, why don't you read changelogs' - before they talked about this, it was branded as energy management optimization which is shady at best. They only opened up after Geekbench found out.

EDIT: Okay, I might have slightly over-exaggerated with 10 seconds - more like 3-5 seconds.

 

[nim81]

It’s fair enough for Samsung to mock Apple for this - the 3GS, 4S and 5S I’ve had in the past all still worked flawlessly at the time I got rid of them - I upgraded because the new phones were a big improvement (or with the 5S, because I destroyed it). The 6S I have now runs like dog ****; even pressing the home button often leaves a lag of several seconds. It’s only a 2 1/2 year old phone, it’s not like it’s ancient tech.

Normal people don’t upgrade every time a new phone comes out, and these devices are so expensive nowadays that you’d expect them to work for a few years.

I’m not going to buy one of their phones because they’re extortionate and I don’t like the nasty interface they use, but all Samsung are doing here is tapping into something which is a real issue for a lot of long-time iPhobe users, I think it’s clever marketing.

 

[applebro]

They used a 6 because of the battery slow down issue. It's fair game.

This. Are most Apple fans so dense that they seriously don’t get it? No wonder so many were duped into buying a 2017 MacBook Pro lul.

 

[dirtymagician]

Just for fun i'd like to see Apple retaliate somehow, bloatware, exploding batteries, lack of updates etc etc

 

[recoil80]

Going back to subject - iPhone 6 received same treatment as iPhone 4 with iOS 7. If anybody used iPhone 4 with iOS 7 they will know - my friend from uni had one. Mail, Phone, Messages took tens of seconds to start. Safari was much worse.

While I agree on the fact iOS 7 was slow on the iPhone 4 I don't think you can talk about "10 seconds" for apps like messages and mail to start. I'd say it was noticeably slower but not so much and that's true for the iPhone 6 with battery problems as well. I'm not saying it is impossible, but 10 seconds seems like there was something wrong with that particular phone, it isn't the norm. I replaced my mom's iPhone 4 a few months ago, it run iOS 7 and it felt obviously very slow to me since I compared it to my 8+, but not to the point I'd throw it out the window.

 

[keatth]

How embarrassing for Apple, it is amazing how they ruined the 6 and to be honest how they intentionally make the devices dog slow over time.

Keep in mind they kept selling it til September 2016.
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Nope, even if you disable the battery management the 6 is so amazingly slow that it is totally embarrassing, anything in a 6 is pretty much unusable and this tells a lot as to the longevity of Apple devices. We need to keep in mind it was on sale until end of 2016, if not wrong.

You can buy many android phones for less than 200 bucks who are light years faster than a 6. I bought one too at the end of 2016 and it run circles around the 6.

The 6 is so dog slow as it does not have enough RAM, sake will happen with X .. whole IOS is super optimized it still needs RAM and Apple is cheap when it gets to that bit still asks for premium prices.

Also keep in mind that second hand Apple devices sell very well and for an high price so there are people in certain countries who might have spent lots of money (by their standards) to get a Arvind hand 6 maybe ah year ago and got a phone which is dog slow.

What is this...dog slow? Have you ever tried to catch a dog, they are pretty fast no?

 

[ROGmaster]

The throttling problem is real so I don't see anything deceitful in Samsung's ad.
For example a lower mid range Mi A1(200$) absolutely trashes a throttled iphone 6 plus in app opening times.

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Considering the S9 is being seriously discounted by most carriers a couple of months after release shows how popular their new flagship is. They need to drum up business somehow...

No it's not, carrier prices are now at the MSP level. It's as simple as that.
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Wasn’t iPhone 6 performance on par with Galaxy S9,

LoL how did you get that idea in the first place?
S9's performance is on part of better than Apple's fastest iphone in general usage.

 

[davie18]

samsung is worth more than apple they just dont make phones

Huh?

 

[kstylz1976]

Samsung has released a new ad encouraging iPhone users to upgrade to the Galaxy S9, but there are several holes in the video.

First and foremost, instead of comparing the two-month-old Galaxy S9 to the iPhone X, or even the iPhone 8 or iPhone 8 Plus, the one-minute clip shows a woman becoming increasingly frustrated with her seemingly glacially slow iPhone 6, released in 2014, as she travels by plane to visit her sister.

Samsung acknowledges this fact with fine print that says "newer iPhone models are currently available," but that doesn't stop it from comparing its 2018 flagship with a nearly four year old iPhone model.

The woman's woes start at an airport security checkpoint, where a security officer reminds travelers to have their boarding passes and IDs ready. The woman taps on the Wallet app on her iPhone, but a white screen appears, suggesting the device is lagging badly. The security officer is visibly displeased.

The next scene shows the woman attempting to open the TV app to watch a movie during her flight, as the person with a Galaxy S9 is doing next to her, only for the same white screen to occur again, suggesting the iPhone is still lagging.

The ad is deceiving, however, as it never shows whether the Wallet or TV apps eventually manage to open. Instead, Samsung conveniently cuts away to the next scene after a split second each time. The fine print also says "screen images simulated," suggesting the slowness might not even be real to begin with.

Later in the night, the woman visits an Apple Store and asks if her slow iPhone can be fixed that night. In a monotonous voice, the employee advises her that she can turn off Apple's performance management, at the risk of unexpected shutdowns, without mentioning that a battery replacement may solve the problem.

Looking exhausted, the woman leaves the store and walks by a person with a notch-shaped haircut that clearly mocks the iPhone X, as seen in an earlier ad.

At the end of the ad, the woman can be seen unboxing and using a Galaxy S9, having finally upgraded to that device.

Samsung's decision to use an older iPhone in the video may have something to do with the iPhone X outperforming the Galaxy S9 in benchmark tests, but it also gave them an opportunity to mock Apple's performance management, which isn't enabled on the latest iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus, or iPhone X.

In reality, even a four-year-old iPhone 6 being throttled by Apple's performance management shouldn't be nearly as slow as Samsung depicts in the ad. And if it is, then there are likely underlying issues.

It's fair game for Samsung to try to convince iPhone users to switch to the Galaxy S9, but its execution in this ad was poor.

Article Link: Samsung Compares Galaxy S9 to Very Slow iPhone 6 in Frivolous Ad

[doublepost=1526637312][/doublepost]The purpose of the ad is to give the user an option that he/she can upgrade to galaxy s9 samsung wants to win those users from iphone 6,6s and 7 due to Apple throttling the Performance of these devices

 

[JGRE]

The only conclusion you can get from this add is that an iPhone still works after 4 years of duty......

 

[odedia]

In reality, even a four-year-old iPhone 6 being throttled by Apple's performance management shouldn't be nearly as slow as Samsung depicts in the ad. And if it is, then there are likely underlying issues.

Ahhm. I just used an iPhone 6 for a week, while my iPhone X was being repaired. It is EXACTLY as slow as shown in the ad.

I had power management features turned on due to old battery, and eventually disabled power management - it did improve things but not by much.

The ad is pointless to compare a brand new phone to a 3-4 year old phone, but it is not misleading.

 

[scrapesleon]

Corny no wonder Samsung doesn’t sell much phones

 

[AlphaGuitarist]

Apple insulted their loyal customers by secretly throttling them. Samsung is just pointing that out. Never understood why people apologize for companies that screw them over.

I’m not apologizing for anyone. As for Samsung, throttling is one thing Samsung is most certainly NOT pointing out, as the throttling issue can be taken care of with a $29 battery replacement, instead of a $700+ Galaxy S9.

 

[Merode]

(…) throttling issue can be taken care of with a $29 battery replacement, instead of a $700+ Galaxy S9.

Only until 2019 when it gets back to its normal price of 79$.

 

[monty77]

Pitiful advertising by Samsung when there is so much good real ammunition!

- Price
- Flexibility of the OS (whether a fan or not you cannot argue that Android can do more and is more open)
- Expandable storage
- Fingerprint scanner still there and very likely to go in-screen soon

Common cons are also being addressed properly at once:

- Repair network improvements
- OS updates

..now is the time to score real points and they stuffed it. Shame in lots of ways really, no matter which product you favour.

 

[quantum2121]

So if you replace the battery on the iPhone 6 does that mean it out performs or performs the same as the Samsung S9, according to the commercial? Also the S9 is an upgrade to any phone, since it’s the newest current phone, even if you are a Samsung user you would still need to upgrade to get the S9.

 

[Compote]

I don’t think it’s poor. Right now typing on an iPhone 6 and this sentence doesn’t appear that I already have typed ot in full. My phone is showing no service. Lagging and piss poor. And yes, I had a battery replacement.

Samsung knows. They know iPhone 6 users want to hold on because Apple has been making horrible software, because Siri is crap, because every accessory is overpriced, because there’s buyer’s fatigues with rising iPad and Watch prices. To stay in the ecosytem is costly and Apple relies on broken software and uncertain designs and confusing lineups.

I used to know which phone to buy. The iPhone. Now, I know my 1400€ phone won’t last me more than 3 years until it becomes unusable because Apple will agressively push planned obsolescence on it like it does.

The SAMSUNG ad is fair because it adresses people’s situations, a target customer, not because it doesn’t compare phones that are the same specs.

It tells iPhone 6 users like me : there is a world elsewhere.

And frankly, I’m tired of my phone feigning to not be able to handle software like - FORK IT !! - typing this bloody post on a basic forum interface. This is not normal. It’s not normal that the same basic apps are buggy and slow all because time passes. I did restores and updates. My phone should be working.

This is what Samsung taps into.

Apple makes the experience terrible on purpose on older phones.
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Meanwhile old S6 s with old batteries just shut down in the middle of the day.

As does my 6 with a brand-new battery...

 

[antonis]

Very dumb choice by Samsung. They could do a decent comparison with current iphone models and still win.

 

[Abazigal]

Pitiful advertising by Samsung when there is so much good real ammunition!

- Price
- Flexibility of the OS (whether a fan or not you cannot argue that Android can do more and is more open)
- Expandable storage
- Fingerprint scanner still there and very likely to go in-screen soon

Common cons are also being addressed properly at once:

- Repair network improvements
- OS updates

..now is the time to score real points and they stuffed it. Shame in lots of ways really, no matter which product you favour.

The market has spoken. Customers don't really care about those features. Or at least, not the ones using iPhones. They have proven that they are willing to pay a premium for iPhones, prefer the simplicity of iOS, will simply opt for the larger storage version vs fiddling with micro-sd cards, and are generally more accepting of moves like replacing Touch-ID with Face ID (and there's still the iPhone 8+ if they don't).

I look at the 4 bullet points listed above and I go "Big freaking whoop!"

Point being, iphone users are iPhone users because they value what the Apple ecosystem affords them over the competition. You can make a laundry list of what Android can do that iOS can't. But what the critics don't seem to realise (much less acknowledge) is that not all features are created equal, nor do consumers all value the same things that you do equally.

Likewise, there are many things the iPhone does well that Android does not, namely the strength of the Apple ecosystem. I get the best apps, the best accessories, the best support, it's all one huge package deal that's very hard for the competition to match.

 

[ROGmaster]

The market has spoken. Customers don't really care about those features. Or at least, not the ones using iPhones.

LoL The market has spoken? What market? The small 15% which is owned by iphones?
Be serious.

They have proven that they are willing to pay a premium for iPhones, prefer the simplicity of iOS, will simply opt for the larger storage version vs fiddling with micro-sd cards

You are talking about a theory man.
If people would be able to buy an iphone with an SD card slot most would simply ignore the higher storage variant. This is what generally happens on Android.
For example I have 9Gb of Music + 3GB or Video + 7Gb of Pictures on my SD card for which I payed around 12-15$. And I still have 10GB free. 32GB more to store my media for 15$ is a great deal. Also I know you will try to spin this and say SD cards are slow and you would be right SD card are slower than internal memory but for media it doesn't make a difference anyway and anybody that uses an SD card knows this.

 

[Abazigal]

LoL The market has spoken? What market? The small 15% which is owned by iphones?
Be serious.

Yeah, the 15% of users who happen to contribute to over 90% of smartphone profits.

Why do you think Samsung is targeting us iPhone users over the rest of the android smartphone user base?

 

[ROGmaster]

Yeah, the 15% of users who happen to contribute to over 90% of smartphone profits.

I don't work for Apple so that doesn't mean anything to me as a consumer. I don't get why you mentioned it.

Why do you think Samsung is targeting us iPhone users over the rest of the android smartphone user base?

Because Apple fans seem to be very emotional and because of that the word spreads like wildfire. So it's just efficient marketing.
There are over 400 posts on this forum alone. LoL
Also I think this ad is for the US market so it makes a lot of sense.

 

[Abazigal]

I don't work for Apple so that doesn't mean anything to me as a consumer. I don't get why you mentioned it.

Notice how many apps are either released for iOS first or exclusively?

Notice how your iPhones don't come with additional carrier software preinstalled?

Notice how carriers don't block software updates?

Notice the wide selection of accessories and peripherals for Apple products relative to the rest of the competition?

Apple has aggregated the best customers (in terms of spending power), and through us, Apple has a lot of leverage with third-party stakeholders, to the point where many bend over backwards to keep Apple happy (and by extension, keep us consumers happy as well).

Because Apple fans seem to be very emotional and because of that the word spreads like wildfire. So it's just efficient marketing.
There are over 400 post on this forum alone. LoL

Oh, Samsung has definitely stirred a hornet's nest, all right.

Its effectiveness is another debatable area though. As it is, the advertisement hasn't shown me any compelling reason for me to upgrade to a S9 over an iPhone 8+ or X. Not to mention that next iPhone refresh is due in a couple more months.

 

[mhd2100]

Apple should run an ad where two people walk by on the street. One goes "oh hey I see you got the new iPhone X". the other goes "oh yeah and you've got that new samsung one." at which point he realises its actually a note 7 then dives for cover before a massive explosion occurs that appears to eminate from the samsung phone. "Stay safe. Get an iPhone."