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Samsung Continues to Poke Fun at Apple Fans in Super Bowl Ad
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I don't know if it "would" be a major shortcoming, but there are many companies making one kind of stylus or another for iPad and iPhone. If it was such a major shortcoming, you would have heard about them.
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Samsung marketing is fail. Also promoting a device having a pen in 2012 is insane.
It is like if they don't steal from apple they are guaranteed to do dumb things
Samsung marketing is fail. Also promoting a device having a pen in 2012 is insane.
It is like if they don't steal from apple they are guaranteed to do dumb things
Nothing surprises me here anymore at the lengths anti-Apple folks will go in an attempt to trivialize Apple's success.
Keep in mind that it was Samsung who decided to draw attention to the "lines" first -- not Apple fans. The lines for Apple products are only a phenomenon that lasts during the first few weeks of a product release (which is better than the first few hours other manufacturers may see). Apple simply cannot produce enough product to meet demand because they don't maintain giant warehouses of stock. It's not like Samsung is moving more units of any model, but just doing it through more outlets. Their best model trails the iPhone 3GS in volume today.
You're whole point out "outlets" is a joke though. Apple products are sold at tons of outlets. I can buy an iPhone or iPad at Best Buy, Radio Shack, Target, Walmart, Apple Store, AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint to name a few (pretty much all the same places as Samsung). I have yet to see a "Samsung" store, but hear there is one in Italy that sports Apple's app icons on the wall for decoration.
Samsung does not have lines because they have so many products that nobody is ever sure which one is really Samsung's "next big thing" (ironic, given their new ad campaign). Also because their products aren't as delightful to use as Apple's. The Samsung Galaxy SII running Gingerbread has slower UI response than an iPhone 3GS running iPhone OS3, iOS4, or iOS5 (the 3GS was Apple's "next big thing" in Summer 2009). Still waiting on ICS to make the Galaxy SII decent, by then, Samsung will probably have another "next big thing" and customers who bought the SII will feel shafted. The reviews of the new Galaxy Note basically say "its too big to be a phone and too small to be a tablet, but tries to be both". But maybe this is what Samsung meant by "big" -- as in "too big to fit in your pocket".
To wrap up, Samsung products are fine from a hardware perspective and they definitely offer lots of choices if you are looking for a "custom fit". They rely completely on Google for their software and so their phones have been slowed down by Gingerbread for far too long. Google now offers ICS (which is a greg OS), but Samsung must apply TouchWiz to before updating whatever few phones are supposedly spec'd to handle it (my guess that if the original Samsung Galaxy S cannot get the upgrade that ICS is a bit of a resource hog). So far ICS adoption is at 1% of Android devices after 2 months release -- by year's end they might hit 30-50%. These are the reasons that Samsung does not have lines for their new products. Its certainly not because they are moving as many units as Apple through more outlets -- its because customers are not interested in what they are releasing.
I love the commercial! But at the same time I used Samsung Smartphones and they plain SUCK. Apple should make a commercial making fun of Samsung GPS problems.. back in November when I went to pick up my new 4S, I was using my Samsung Epic (fail) and it took more than 10 min to get a GPS lock, I got to the store got my first Iphone ever get in my car fire up maps and got a lock within 2 seconds... I felt relieved! A moment I will never forget.
Yes, I remember Motorola offering an Android phone with dual cameras weeks before iPhone4. It did not bother offering an app that could use those cameras for chatting though. The two apps it recommended its customers to download had compatibility problems or were very crash prone according to reviews. What a rip off, eh?
See - and I have experienced the opposite. Great GPS lock with my new Skyrocket this weekend and while I eventually always got a lock with my iPhone - I had plenty of times it took forever.
Mileage varies from location, carrier, etc. One use case does not equate to all.
I disagree. Long is making home movies, Hodgman can't. Hodgman enjoys making pie charts and spreadsheets of vacations instead of movies and podcasts. Etc.
Just because the jabs are not direct doesn't mean that they aren't jabs.
Also, with the Samsung commercial, it's not a direct jab to Mac users - only those who wait in line for days for the next device. A number of people here have commented how they don't wait in lines and many Mac users don't.
I have a split reaction on this. Some of the above commercial examples I clearly disagreed with on the basis of how it was presented, others I disagreed with the message but enjoyed the presentation, and others I found to be funny (I am a PC user, as you may have guessed).
On the other hand, as a Samsung phone user, I'm not impressed with the ads that make fun of the users. Yeah, these commercials usually point out a feature (e.g. free turn by turn) but then the pithy comments ("I don't like your roommate very much") are just ridiculous, I'm not a big fan of ad hominem attacks, direct or indirect. Direct one actor is making a statement. Indirectly, it's a statement about the maturity of that individual.
In contrast, the message in the last commercial Samsung aired was good (the note one, where they left the line). People in line saw something new, were impressed, and enjoyed a product. Even if you disagree with the premise that caused them to leave the line (the note having a stylus - many do not believe that feature to be valuable here), at least it was pro-Samsung instead of pro-Samsung with a cheap anti-apple jab.
No, ICS doesn't use more resources than Gingerbread. The reason Samsung doesn't update the SGS is because they don't want to do it
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I thought the Samsung commercial was funny. I'd love to see several size options for the iPhone and iPad similar to the Samsung models.
For perspective, I was using my iPhone during the commercial, and had to laugh at how annoyed by it several of my Apple fanatic fan friends were... Although they did raise some valid points:
Samsung isn't just offering iPhone alternatives, they're trying hard to capitolize off the iPhone market with wannabe variations Apple doesn't offer. This is a good thing IMO, if it pushes Apple to offer more sizes/variations as mentioned above.
Samsung poked fun at the people camped out in front of the Apple store waiting days to get a new iPhone. Who wouldn't? It's funny. I poked fun at the people camped out for days to see the new Star Wars.
Samsung makes phones with bigger screens. I'd love to see an iPhone with a bigger screen. Wouldn't you? If not, is it ok with you that some of us would like the option? If not, why not?
I thought the Samsung commercial was funny. I'd love to see several size options for the iPhone and iPad similar to the Samsung models.
For perspective, I was using my iPhone during the commercial, and had to laugh at how annoyed by it several of my Apple fanatic fan friends were... Although they did raise some valid points:
Samsung isn't just offering iPhone alternatives, they're trying hard to capitolize off the iPhone market with wannabe variations Apple doesn't offer. This is a good thing IMO, if it pushes Apple to offer more sizes/variations as mentioned above.
Samsung poked fun at the people camped out in front of the Apple store waiting days to get a new iPhone. Who wouldn't? It's funny. I poked fun at the people camped out for days to see the new Star Wars.
Samsung makes phones with bigger screens. I'd love to see an iPhone with a bigger screen. Wouldn't you? If not, is it ok with you that some of us would like the option? If not, why not?
Just keep in mind..... when a cult grows to the size where you are selling 50% of the smartphones sold in a quarter to the tune of 37M units, that the "cult" becomes the general population. So I would change "cult following" to "customer satisfaction".
I believe you are correct, but Samsung claims its a hardware deficiency. Which is a load of crap. They would rather sell you the "next big thing".
It depends on the phone. Out of the box, Samsung's GPS in the Galaxy S series (the first Galaxy S & phones based on that hardware) is pretty terrible. A lot of the custom ROMs install fixes that get it behaving like it should. Why Samsung hasn't fixed this in the stock ROMs, I am not sure.
I'm a technical user and enjoy custom ROMs, etc. but I'm not impressed with Samsung in that regard. If you're going to make a key feature in the stock ROM, it had better work properly. When nightly updates of ROMs can utilize the GPS better than stock, that's just wrong.
Chalk that up as another reason not to get an android phone. iPhone 3GS is still getting updates and it came out before the SGS.
Summary of this thread: (For those who don't want to read 600 posts
Team Apple:
Stylus? Are they joking? Can get one for iPhone if needed.
Insulting users not a good idea
FaceTime rip off
Mac vs PC was about platforms not user
Samsung desperate?
What group was this advert aimed?
Team Samsung
Stylus is not essential. Still a Touchscreen. Pressure senstive.
Apple insulted before (e.g. Mac vs PC)
Video Chat before on other phones
Applefan are outraged, so the ad did its job.
Team Neutral
Miranda Kerr
I occasionally use a stylus on my iPad. Would not, probably, use it on an iPhone, but a point tip pressure stylus would be cool for an iPad. Use it for writing notes or drawings.
Team Apple:
Stylus? Are they joking? Can get one for iPhone if needed.
Insulting users not a good idea
FaceTime rip off
Mac vs PC was about platforms not user
Samsung desperate?
What group was this advert aimed?
Team Samsung
Stylus is not essential. Still a Touchscreen. Pressure senstive.
Apple insulted before (e.g. Mac vs PC)
Video Chat before on other phones
Applefan are outraged, so the ad did its job.
Team Neutral
Miranda Kerr
I occasionally use a stylus on my iPad. Would not, probably, use it on an iPhone, but a point tip pressure stylus would be cool for an iPad. Use it for writing notes or drawings.
So they're marketing it to the people standing in line? I really don't get it. All the iPhones I've bought I've got online without having to wait in line.
I get their marketing saying "look what our phone can do" but to focus so much on Apple fans is really confusing to me haha.
At least it's not the weird scifi droid commercials that don't show anything about the phone.
I get their marketing saying "look what our phone can do" but to focus so much on Apple fans is really confusing to me haha.
At least it's not the weird scifi droid commercials that don't show anything about the phone.
Apple fan: So wait, you're telling me to buy this thing?
Note user: Yes
Apple fan: Can it play infinity blade?
Note user: No
Apple fan: Okay, can it fit in my shirt pocket?
Note user: No
Apple fan: So its not really a mobile phone.
Note user: It's not a phone, but a phonetablet!
Apple fan: Yeah, umm marketing terms by Samsung.
Note user: Hey, you're the fanboy.
Apple fan: I just switched from android. Has that bad malware gone?
Note user: No
Apple fan: And the fragmentation?
Note user: No.
Apple fan: And the lagging?
Note user: No
Apple fan: So I'll stick with the iphone
Note user: I can see fanboyism.
Apple fan: Yeah okay, you stick with your note. You got a problem with my liking the iphone?
Note user: No. Its just the problem of you isheep. I'm a high end user, so I use android
Apple fan: So why do I see engineers, movie editors, photographers, programmers etc. using iphones.
Note user: I am cuz I like to tweak my phone
Apple fan: You can tweak an iphone. Try to jailbreak it.
Note user: Its a walled garden. So I cant
Apple fan: The locked bootloader makes it more of a challenge, if you are truly a high end user
Note user: Nah, I just download tweaks from others
Apple user: So you are a consumer like me also. You can also do that with an iphone.
This, just sums up android fanboys
Note user: Yes
Apple fan: Can it play infinity blade?
Note user: No
Apple fan: Okay, can it fit in my shirt pocket?
Note user: No
Apple fan: So its not really a mobile phone.
Note user: It's not a phone, but a phonetablet!
Apple fan: Yeah, umm marketing terms by Samsung.
Note user: Hey, you're the fanboy.
Apple fan: I just switched from android. Has that bad malware gone?
Note user: No
Apple fan: And the fragmentation?
Note user: No.
Apple fan: And the lagging?
Note user: No
Apple fan: So I'll stick with the iphone
Note user: I can see fanboyism.
Apple fan: Yeah okay, you stick with your note. You got a problem with my liking the iphone?
Note user: No. Its just the problem of you isheep. I'm a high end user, so I use android
Apple fan: So why do I see engineers, movie editors, photographers, programmers etc. using iphones.
Note user: I am cuz I like to tweak my phone
Apple fan: You can tweak an iphone. Try to jailbreak it.
Note user: Its a walled garden. So I cant
Apple fan: The locked bootloader makes it more of a challenge, if you are truly a high end user
Note user: Nah, I just download tweaks from others
Apple user: So you are a consumer like me also. You can also do that with an iphone.
This, just sums up android fanboys
I wouldn't change it at all. Its not the Average person who sits in line for a phone.
Its the Cult followers who enjoy the whole experience and will do anything to be one of the lucky ones to get it first.
The funniest thing about this commercial and the ensuing discussion we are having in the thread is that this COMMERCIAL IS NOT AIMED AT THE PEOPLE COMMENTING IN THIS THREAD!
Whether it is iPhone users or Android users, the people in this thread already know what Samsung is trying to portray. Why are we having this discussion? We who talk on a internet forums are the minority. The specs or features are already known by us.
If we look at this commercial from a consumer standpoint, especially for the people who don't have a smartphone yet, I think it works. Just like I feel apples commercials work for them to point out what they feel they need to to get consumers to buy or switch.
Whether it is iPhone users or Android users, the people in this thread already know what Samsung is trying to portray. Why are we having this discussion? We who talk on a internet forums are the minority. The specs or features are already known by us.
If we look at this commercial from a consumer standpoint, especially for the people who don't have a smartphone yet, I think it works. Just like I feel apples commercials work for them to point out what they feel they need to to get consumers to buy or switch.
Lol
The advert made me laugh hard.
People tend to forget in life the power of having a sense of humour and being able to both poke fun and be on the receiving end.
Yes everything in moderation but come of it's pretty funny.
The advert made me laugh hard.
People tend to forget in life the power of having a sense of humour and being able to both poke fun and be on the receiving end.
Yes everything in moderation but come of it's pretty funny.
It's an indirect image thing.
Users stay in line because they're hyped/excited for the iPhone.
Somebody walks by with something "better" (I'm not trying to make this as an objective claim; I'm just saying, "better" is the sense the marketers are trying to convey).
Users leave the line and go to samsung and/or are bitter about the experience.
For those who are not as knowledgeable and just see the lines (e.g. the pic from the opening of the Grand Central Apple store) in the news, the line IS the hype. Leaving the line or regretting being in it is an admission that the iPhone is not the greatest device ever.
That's the message Samsung is trying to convey.
Conveniently, for the ads that are anti-apple jabs too (e.g. bitter comments after seeing someone with an Apple device), it satisfies an anti-apple sentiment (e.g. Apple devices are overpriced and overhyped). I'm not putting forward either as a statement of objective fact - just saying that this is an image that people have.