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That's cool. I have a Samsung Skyrocket now as of last week at I'm in no rush for ICS but welcome it whenever it comes just like I welcomed a new OS from Apple whenever it came. The current OS that's on it (since I'm new to Android) works perfectly well and I really have no complaints. Which surprised me, quite frankly. But sincerely no complaints.
Well thank god Apple has never released select "software" features to selected handsets.... cough "iPhone 3GS" cough "iPhone 4S"
I'm with you, people power!! give them what they want, pop on over to the MBP and Imac forums and lets fight the fight to get Blueray !!!! I'll be right behind you.
All companies including Apple hold back features, use so called updates to push out bug fixes and ignore what the users want.
Hey when I updated my iphone 4 to iOS5, my battery uptime nose dived... and its still crap
thankgod apple is listening to me and rushing out a fix. Sometimes you just need to keep it real.
Hmm, Ill use an argument I have seen here quite a few times.
Anyone who bought the Galaxy S, bought it because of the software it CURRENTLY HAD. If not another "major" update comes, it should not matter. If you bought that phone, you bought it because at the time it was functioning as you expected. If it wasnt functioning as such, then you would return it or simply sell it to get a new phone.
Just because there is a new update out, doesn't make your phone automatically stop working.
Not only that but outside of us forum nerds on the internet, most people NEVER upgrade their phone OS. They just use their phone as intended.
Your statement fails on many levels
You just proved my point I stated above, if you get an upgrade, GREAT! But there was no stipulation when you purchased the phone that you would be upgraded to the latest OS.
You know ICS is out there, so you could of waited... so you made a choice based on your needs TODAY. Who would of thought?
Well clearly it's because I'm a "fandroid" and will make any excuses I can to defend my week old device
The truth is - I felt that it terms of UI and Specs (and reviews) that the Skyrocket was the best phone for me. Knowing that it was eventually going to get ICS was a plus - but not a deciding factor. Just like I never bought my iPhone 3GS or 4 with expectations of newer OSes that would work on it. When they came - I updated. But I didn't always update immediately anyway because I wanted to read caveats and other items people were experiencing. I didn't want Apps I used to be broken or be unsupported.
But I agree with you. People should be buying devices based on what they do now not what they might do in the future. Just like if you buy a TV and all of the sudden the new model or other models get a software upgrade to be 3D (or whatever). The TV you bought is still the TV you bought. It's not crippled or useless.
Unfortunately - many people (on forums especially) believe they are "entitled."
And I also agree (based on many I have encountered) that a lot of the general public never even updates their OS...
I'd say it's close enough to be of concern, but it's looking like you both prefer to follow any tangent rather than staying on the point.
Not globally - you may receive them in your neck of the world but for a large number of consumers outside of the main centres (Europe, UK, and United States) are left high and dry.
Well thank god Apple has never released select "software" features to selected handsets.... cough "iPhone 3GS" cough "iPhone 4S"
I'm with you, people power!! give them what they want, pop on over to the MBP and Imac forums and lets fight the fight to get Blueray !!!! I'll be right behind you.
All companies including Apple hold back features, use so called updates to push out bug fixes and ignore what the users want.
Hey when I updated my iphone 4 to iOS5, my battery uptime nose dived... and its still crap
At least you receive updates that include security fixes and general fixes; if it were just those without any new features then I'd be happy to have an Android phone where as most vendors can't even be bothered providing such a basic base level support for end users.
Btw, I never said software had to be perfect - the question is whether the vendor provides updates to fixes those. Have you ever thought that maybe the battery issue is a little more complex than doing a search through files for the string, "drain battery really fast" and change the boolen to false?
You fail on so many levels because you assume that an OS upgrade only provides features - it also provides security and general bug fixes. If I purchase a product I expect that the vendor support me for a reasonable period of time so that when I use the device I am safe when I surf the net, I can perform functions that one would expect without it crashing or having weird quirks. Car vendors support their cars up to five years to address fair wear and tear concerns yet when I expect a similar level of support form computer vendors via updates/upgrades I'm labelled an idiot by you.
So which Galaxy phones have not received a security update? Where there even security issues to fix with an update?
Your car analogy is all well and good, but its a completely different mindset. Manu support cars for so long because people generally don't switch cars every 2 years(like with phones). Not only that but the car industry moves at a much slower pace than the smartphone industry. This allow car manu's to mature within a given product line an give the support for 5 years+.
I know I didn't
So what do you need to be added for the phone to be considered a "good upgrade"?
Most on here would agree that a redesign and a larger screen would be decent upgrade to the iPhone, but clearly you don't think that way: the Note was redesigned (well it certainly doesn't look like a GSII or Galaxy Tab), has a larger & higher resolution screen, a new processor (the Exynos was new for the Note, and the Snapdragon used in the US models is unique to the Note for now), a reskinned OS with added unique features as well as the other features (pen etc) and it's still a 'marginal upgrade' in your eyes. What gives?
Camera, Siri, new OS and the processor, yeah nothing else to advertise.
Fine, they only have four other things (one of which isn't specific to the 4S, and another which they purchased) to advertise. Same point.
Well clearly they're improving, as they've been nothing but fast in releasing updates for my Galaxy S II.
Also, it sounds like your beef is with US carriers who take too much time in tweaking the update packages, as Samsung do release the update packages for the normal (unbranded) international models way earlier than US carriers do.
Not in my experience, and as stated above your beef is with vzw/tmo/att.
Nope, it's the bigger screen & stylus combined with all the other upgrades (new casing, processor, added sw features etc)
If you asked what iPhone users thought would have been a good (hardware) update, I'm pretty sure 90% would have said 'upgraded processor, redesigned casing, larger screen'. All of which the Note has.
New processor- pulled directly from the then-6-month-old iPad 2.
New camera- it's nothing impressive. Added a few megapixels and that's it. As previously stated my 7 year old Sharp takes better pictures. And before you bring up the '(lack of) camera improvements to the Note'- I do agree with you that the Note's 8MP camera isn't great either.
Siri- bought from another company, retooled to work with system functions.
New OS- works with my 3GS and 4, not unique to the 4S. (and before you say 'well what about the Note?'- the new TouchWiz features on the Note are Note-specific).
I don't read blogs or reviews and take those results as the truth. I trust the level of performance (be it processor performance or battery life) based on my real-life usage. I consider myself to be a relatively heavy user, being able to bring my 4S's battery down to naught by 5PM (off the charger at 8AM, running 5.0.1). My Note, being connected to HSPA+ full-time (like the 4S), consistently matches or exceeds my 4S.
And don't think that the comparison was skewed due to me jabbering on the phone all day- I speak on my mobile less than 30 minutes in that timeframe (I mostly use my office phone).
I've always loved reading. If you, too, enjoy reading then you may like to take a look at this snippet from Engadget:
Engadget said:
...and the equivalent of the 4S upgrades too (processor, etc etc). Which, as this is a phone, is pretty much all there is to upgrade.
It has really cool things too.
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I'm kidding.
Unique casing- many here complained about the lack of redesign when the 4S came out. The Note has a casing that looks different from every other Samsung device.
Unique software features- S-Memo, S-Choice, Hello Chalk, Hello Color Pencil, Hello Crayon, Samsung IME with Stylus Input etc. All unique applications to the Note which utilize the unique input method. I'm sure you can guess what input method this is.
Which is what I've been saying to. While you were harping about the lack of processor upgrade and lack of RAM upgrade I've been trying to tell you that Samsung has optimized the software well enough that the smoothness is similar to that of my iPhone 4S. So: [It just works. ☑]
Okay, let's break down each iUpdate, ignoring software features (that carried over to older models, like C&P):
iPhone = the original. cool, but lacked several key features
3G = New casing, 3G/GPS (which should have been there from the very beginning)
3GS = Faster processor, improved camera w/ AF camera & video rec. (two features that should have been there from the beginning), voice control, compass.
4 = New casing, improved camera with 720p v.r., FFC, A4 chip, and they finally ditched that terrible low quality HVGA screen in favor of a higher resolution panel.
4S = Siri, A5 dual-core and improved camera with 1080p v.r..
...and what does the Note feature?
New & unique casing, 3G/4G/GPS, faster processor, camera with AF & 1080p video rec., high definition screen, dual-core processor, voice commands with voice input and the most important feature- a compass.
What's your complaint here? They stuck in everything including the kitchen sink but you want the oven too? What did you expect in the Note that would have it qualify as more than a 'marginal upgrade' in your book?
Cool. I never liked this system, always thought that only upvote buttons would be better (similar to Engadget's implementation). No hating, just agreeing. If you don't agree then move on.
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Very well written, I personally would not buy a Samsung phone but I cannot deny that its features are damn amazing. My next purchase will the iPhone if it has a bigger screen, if not then I shall consider the Note II, S3 or even Blackberry 10 (the beauty of being open to other choices).
Anyhow, like previously mentioned, there is no upgrade to the Note because there was no precedent, it's a new product from Samsung. We can start judging the Note II if the upgrade is not significant enough.
We're going to look back on this thread and one of two things is going to happen...
1) The Galaxy Note changes the game, 5.0"+ screens and stylus pens become all the rage, Apple and Windows Phone have no choice but to follow suit and adapt to this revolutionary change in the market. An "iPen" becomes the biggest selling point for the iPhone 5, which is also noted (hah) for its 5" screen. iPen replacements will sell for $29.99 at the Apple Store. We all wonder why the stylus was abandoned in the first place, how ever did we live without it?
2) The Galaxy Note fails to impress anyone, marketing campaign was seen as a bust, and the phone is doomed to "what-if?" status. They are being given away at BOGO after three months, then for free on a new contract before fading away like every other "innovative" Android device before it. It is a distant memory in the minds of consumers, but is a cult hit among devout followers.
1) The Galaxy Note changes the game, 5.0"+ screens and stylus pens become all the rage, Apple and Windows Phone have no choice but to follow suit and adapt to this revolutionary change in the market. An "iPen" becomes the biggest selling point for the iPhone 5, which is also noted (hah) for its 5" screen. iPen replacements will sell for $29.99 at the Apple Store. We all wonder why the stylus was abandoned in the first place, how ever did we live without it?
2) The Galaxy Note fails to impress anyone, marketing campaign was seen as a bust, and the phone is doomed to "what-if?" status. They are being given away at BOGO after three months, then for free on a new contract before fading away like every other "innovative" Android device before it. It is a distant memory in the minds of consumers, but is a cult hit among devout followers.
1) It will never happen, Apple will never ever consider using a stylus for the iPhone. If they do, well I will laugh at people here saying it's a stupid idea.
2) North America is late in receiving the Note, it already sold over a million internationally, it has a bigger chance of success than faillure. I might be wrong of course.
Well of course, I'm not actually trying to bash the phone itself, some people like it, some don't. I will say this, selling a million phones isn't that big of a deal anymore. It might sell well, what I'm saying is - will it change the game? Will it have a huge impact on the industry as a whole? Will the Note become the harbinger of the stylus' return? That's all I'm really asking.
There is rumors of a "Note S" already in the works, could come out a month or two after the launch of the NA Note. I'm not sure I agree with releasing the successor so soon after the original.
There is rumors of a "Note S" already in the works, could come out a month or two after the launch of the NA Note. I'm not sure I agree with releasing the successor so soon after the original.
Because there are only THOSE two scenarios? Ok...
And I think people have very different ideas of what is successful. Just because a phone or device doesn't sell as much as an iDevice doesn't mean it's not successful. Just like there are plenty of successful authors who aren't Stephen King or JK Rowling. Just like there are plenty of successful movies that aren't by Steven Spielberg. And so on...
Why must it be so black and white ? Why didn't you consider 3) ? Why must something either change the game, or have failed miserably ?
Realistically speaking, I doubt the Note S will come out before the end of Q2 because Q2 is all about the S3. Even if Samsung does release the Note S before, it won't be in North America as Samsung releases the International version much earlier than it does here.
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Why must it be so black and white ? Why didn't you consider 3) ? Why must something either change the game, or have failed miserably ?
Well it does seem to have impacted some companies. LG recently announced its first 5'' phone, the LG Vu
That's my point. It's yet another new form factor some manufacturers/consumers will consider. It doesn't have to be all or nothing like Apple seems to always make it.
I'm going to lay it out like this, they advertised this phone to people by taking potshots at the Apple fan base. They could have done an HTC style ad where they talk about what their phone can do to alter or better a person's lifestyle or list out the phone's amazing specs like the Droids. But no, they threw punches in Apple's general direction. They stepped into the ring with the big boy. They put themselves in a win or go home situation. This is, for better or worse, Samsung's most important commercial of the year, there's a lot riding on this. They are saying (more like hoping), that this phone will start a new era for possibly all mobile devices, and the sheep should flock over to Sammy's greener fields or risk being left behind.
If their goal in all of this was to ruffle a few feathers, well, judging by the amount of attention it's gotten, I would say they succeeded in that fashion. Now whether the phone itself can say the same, we'll see.
If their goal in all of this was to ruffle a few feathers, well, judging by the amount of attention it's gotten, I would say they succeeded in that fashion. Now whether the phone itself can say the same, we'll see.
So what does this have to do with your "Black and white" world view ? Nothing. There is grey in the world, and frankly, it doesn't matter what you think in the end.
Ok the commercial I find funny. But both devices have there ups and downs. IMO the only reason Apple has mega lines is because of how they release their products. Once a year. That is a very good strategy very similar to gaming and movie sequels. Is Apple iPhone the best I don't think so. I actually believe at this point in the game Android and Apple iPhone are the same just different platforms. I think if apple would have different versions of a current iPhone 4 times a year they would actually sell more like say a touch screen 3.5 a touch screen 4.5 keyboard version like blackberry and a odd ball version like once a year it be a flip phone one year the following a slide out keyboard etc. if Apple were to do something like that the lines would get shorter but they would also sell more. Now back to the commercial it's humor just like the Mac and PC guy. Will it make me stop buying an iPhone, no. I will actually buy whatever I want. My last phone was a Samsung Epic Touch it was a great phone love the screen it was a little faster than the iPhone has its flaws just like the iPhone. Well till the next big thing comes out I'm jumping ship either the iPhone 5 or next Nexus don't know till I see them. That's what I like about being a phone junkie I like trying everything and keeping some phones a little longer than others. Both Higher end Androids and Apple iPhones are excellent smartphones.
"Samsung. Again."
This is a branding commercial, not a commercial for a particular phone.
"Samsung. Again." is the point of the commercial - pitching Samsung as an innovator, and doing it in a fun and silly manner.
This is a branding commercial, not a commercial for a particular phone.
"Samsung. Again." is the point of the commercial - pitching Samsung as an innovator, and doing it in a fun and silly manner.
I guess the voiceover guy saying "Introducing the Galaxy Note, from Samsung", and the "Coming soon" with a best buy logo, indicates that this wasn't actually a commercial for the phone...