Samsung Debuts Apple-Like Design Video for Galaxy S6 Edge

[gnasher729]

God, I hate copy cats so much!!!!

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Benzy, if you weren't lazy and actually did your homework, you would have found that not one of these Braun products have the slightest similarity with the Apple product - unless you get a real clever photographer set them up at exactly the right angle.

As an example, the radio clock that is supposed to look like an iPod has been stood on its side, and photographed exactly from the front, so that you cannot see that it isn't 10mm thick like on old iPod, but about four inch deep. To anyone who owns or owned one of these radio clocks, it wouldn't even occur that it is supposed to look similar to an iPod.

 

[Tech198]

This is so "johny Ivy" workmanship for an ad...


However, i'm surprised they went up to 800 degrees for that.

And the worse part about all of this it.... At least Apple tells the truth with their ads... But maybe they actually believe their phones are popular ?? Who knew right ?

 

[freediverx]

God, I hate copy cats so much!!!!

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It's ironic that you chose to present Braun products as examples of Apple copying from others.

Dieter Rams is the renowned designer behind those famous Braun products. He and Jony Ive have a mutual admiration for each other's work. If Rams felt that Ive had shamelessly copied his work, one would think he would have a less flattering view of Apple.

Dieter Rams: Apple has achieved something I never did
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...Apple-has-achieved-something-I-never-did.html

"Apple are one of the very few brands, almost unique in the modern world, who are not devaluing the word “designer”."

"I have always observed that good design can normally only emerge if there is a strong relationship between an entrepreneur and the head of design. At Apple this situation exists - between Steve Jobs and Jony Ive."

"Apple and Vitsoe are relatively lone voices treating the discipline of design seriously in all corners of their businesses. They understand that design is not simply an adjective to place in front of a product’s name to somehow artificially enhance its value. Ever fewer people appear to understand that design is a serious profession; and for our future welfare we need more companies to take that profession seriously."

 

[NavyDude065]

Samsung is better

I use to enjoy my iphones and felt they were better than the rest, not so. I owned every iphone up to and including the 5S. My son own a 6 Plus. Since battery Never lasted as long as Apple claimed and IOS 8 degraded my 5S, I sold it and went with a Samsung Note 4 and my wife went from the 4S to Samsung S6. The displays on our Samsung phones are better, camera is much better (better in the dark) and even records at 4K, battery last longer and you can do more with them. I can't see myself going back to an iphone, ever. Samsung smartphones are much more advanced than iphones and cheaper too. If you want IS on your smartphone camera, you gotta buy a 6 Plus and most of my friends say the camera isn't near as great as the Note 4, and Galaxy S6 is even better.All you Apple lovers, don't slam me for I too enjoyed the iphone at one time. I'm hoping that some day I may go back but right now Apple seems to be behind other designers. My son stated several times that he's disappointed in the iphone 6 because the screen is dull looking and the camera sucks compared to the Note 4 and S6. I do find the Note 4 a little too big but the S6 is great. The OS isn't the best and needs work but IOS 8 isn't either and that was the reason I switched for it caused so many issues on my 5S and the battery drained quickly. Iphone is easier to use and that's the only benefit I see. Enjoying my Note 4.

 

[SchlepNT]

Are people really getting upset over this?

Tech companies (gasp, even ), copy and steal from each other all the time. Even these crappy promo videos. Yes, both commercials are dumb.

 

[Tech198]

Are people really getting upset over this?

Tech companies (gasp, even ), copy and steal from each other all the time. Even these crappy promo videos. Yes, both commercials are dumb.

and yet, i'm sure u own one.

 

[ninjadex]

Are people really getting upset over this?

I don't think anybody is getting upset, or at least I hope not. Most here are having a big laugh!

 

[SchlepNT]

and yet, i'm sure u own one.

Nope. Haven't used iPhone in a while, so no point in getting the Watch.

 

[aPple nErd]

people are actually surprised samsung copied yet again?

 

[Tech198]

I'm not surprised at all.. I'm just wondering why go through all the bashing they did, only to start releasing this.

 

[flash84x]

Obviously inspired by Apple, if not blatantly ripped off.

At least it was done well, it was still interesting to watch. But I may be biased as I love watching these machinery videos.

 

[gnasher729]

Are people really getting upset over this?

Tech companies (gasp, even ), copy and steal from each other all the time. Even these crappy promo videos. Yes, both commercials are dumb.

What makes you think anyone is upset?

People are amused about Samsung's blind copying of Apple's adverts. Everone knows it's going to backfire. There's a difference between having the most famous Bitish designer and an actor with a fake British accent.

 

[TruthWatcher412]

When does the Samsung 1984 commercial come?

 

[gnasher729]

It's ironic that you chose to present Braun products as examples of Apple copying from others.

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Dieter Rams is the renowned designer behind those famous Braun products. He and Jony Ive have a mutual admiration for each other's work. If Rams felt that Ive had shamelessly copied his work, one would think he would have a less flattering view of Apple.

Dieter Rams: Apple has achieved something I never did
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolo...Apple-has-achieved-something-I-never-did.html

"Apple are one of the very few brands, almost unique in the modern world, who are not devaluing the word “designer”."

"I have always observed that good design can normally only emerge if there is a strong relationship between an entrepreneur and the head of design. At Apple this situation exists - between Steve Jobs and Jony Ive."

"Apple and Vitsoe are relatively lone voices treating the discipline of design seriously in all corners of their businesses. They understand that design is not simply an adjective to place in front of a product’s name to somehow artificially enhance its value. Ever fewer people appear to understand that design is a serious profession; and for our future welfare we need more companies to take that profession seriously."

Notice on the left of this lovely picture a Brown T1000 radio that supposedly looks like a Mac Pro G5. Benzy, be very ashamed of yourself.

 

[SchlepNT]

What makes you think anyone is upset?

People are amused about Samsung's blind copying of Apple's adverts. Everone knows it's going to backfire. There's a difference between having the most famous Bitish designer and an actor with a fake British accent.

You asked and answered your own question. Nothing is going to backfire. Outside of hardcore tech people, nobody cares about these promos.

 

[H2SO4]

I suspect that wasn't aligned centre so you has easy access to spin it from the front.

Do I have to point you to lots of conventional watches with spinning crowns that are aligned centre?

 

[freediverx]

Notice on the left of this lovely picture a Brown T1000 radio that supposedly looks like a Mac Pro G5. Benzy, be very ashamed of yourself.

That radio's rear door has a similar hinged design to that of the old Mac Pros. It wouldn't surprise me if it served as an inspiration for the latter. There's nothing wrong with that. Taking a good idea from one application and adapting it for a completely different product is a common practice among great designers.

This is not what Samsung does. They are not taking design cues from radios, speakers, and bath tub covers. They are copying designs and styles, millimeter by millimeter, from a competitor's smartphone to their own. That's not inspiration, that's theft.

Catch phrases like "great artists steal" and "there are no original ideas" have truth in them, but only in the context of artists taking inspiration from nature or from other artists and using them to create something new and unique. When these phrases are repeated, parrot-like, by people with no understanding of art or design, their meaning is turned upside down.

 

[RogerWilco]

The Braun watch is... a watch. It can tell the time and maybe the date.

The Apple Watch is a multi-fuction computer on your wrist. It's no more a "watch" than an iPhone is a "phone".

So now electronic function is the focus rather than the (blatantly "borrowed") design elements, the very elements Ive extolls in the video? This thread started with derisive laughter from the peanut galley and claims that Samsung essentially copied a product video from Apple. Examples were presented that show Apple liberally using the works of others in many of their product designs.

You dared to compare Apple with Picasso, and others claimed the company (Ive) was merely inspired by decades-old design language from his good buddies at Braun. When a simple search reveals that Ive apparently found his "inspiration" from a Braun watch sold four years ago, you now say that it doesn't matter because the blatant rip-off has more electrons darting about inside the case!

Picasso said "I do not seek, I find". In this thread I believe I have found the metaphysical core of fanboism.

 

[H2SO4]

Lol, no.

Lexus styling on the high end is a somewhat less blatant example of copying compared to Samsung - a mish-mash of BMW and Mercedes Benz. On the lower end their styling is classic, over-the-top Japanese aero effects.

A Lexus cannot approach the performance, handling or road feel of a BMW. Their interiors, while seemingly luxurious, are a notch below German cars in the quality of materials, especially the leather.

Oh please. As a german car owner, (which I love BTW), I can tell you that I’m nothing but disappointed with the rattles and squeaks in my cabin. The low rent, (feeling), Avensis I had on the other hand simply would not break. That was not for want of trying either.
Something that feeels nice in a tactile manner does not equal quality. We both know that one the whole cars from the orient are far more relaible than those from elsewhere.

What a crock.

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King of Samsung: a chairman's reign of cunning and corruption
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/30/3709688/samsung-25-years-lee-kun-hee


In S. Korea, the Republic of Samsung
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world...215420-3de1-11e2-bca3-aadc9b7e29c5_story.html


Sir James Dyson goes after Samsung over 'cynical rip off' vacuum cleaners
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/wo...-over-cynical-rip-off-vacuum-cleaners-1179738


Samesong - Imitation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aqc8NGrhnw
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So which part of my statement is wrong? Also don’t pretend that Apple don’t copy or are whiter than white. Cos they ain’t.

 

[GrumpyOldMac]

Eh i never said i speak any of these languages you listed. Also i have not said that Koreans are only good at imitating.
But maybe it sounded like that because of my english.

Maybe you could be less hostile to people on internet and do not expect a troll/hater at every corner ?

What i said was that koreans are seen inferior by western people compared to japanese.
It's mostly like Japan > Korea > China/taiwan. And it's mostly because the japanese have been conquerors and the anime, manga, katanas, samurais are basically very known to them and considered "cool" even by older.

Dude less bashing i love asia as much as any other nation / country.

No you said Koreans were "soulless," (your exact words) and only capable of imitating others. The rest is window dressing. The same thing has been said about every industrializing, developing, modernizing society. Koreans have souls. They are human beings, not manga characters of your imagination. They invent, create, synthesize, and engineer just like Americans or Germans do.

Your problem, and I'll cut you slack because you sound young and poorly educated, is that you are using the concept of culture as a synonym for intelligence or ability. That is bigotry. Korean culture is not inferior to anyone else's culture. Korea has produced staggering works of genius and artistry. And the U.S. has produced plenty of derivative, banal culture too.

Political economy explains why countries that developed more recently first pass through imitative economic development and then surpass their former masters. That's exactly why China will kick ass in the next century. Korea is a rising modern economy.

Samsung has thousands of patents. They invent things too. Just read some books. The Internet can make you ignorant.

Also, "Asia" is a continent, not a country. But I'll cut you slack on your English too. Because I'm nice like that.just try not to repeat bigoted nonsense you heard on reddit.

 

[H2SO4]

Calling something vitriolic and the "********", etc, IS over the top.
You think words mean nothing and have no emotional charge?

You can't claim to be "above the fray" with an unapologetic one sided retort. So, it is a legitimate question to ask, what is your stake?

I've owned Apple stock for a long time and first bought Apple products in the early 80s, that's one reason I comment as I do. That's my stake, financial and otherwise.

That would also suggest that you are biased. In reality it means your opinion means no more or less than anybody elses.

 

[mazz0]

Utterly pathetic

The Apple video actually says something, the Samsung video is just shallow marketing buzzwords.

And why is there an English accent saying "aluminium'? Because they just wanted the English accent because they think that's what you do. Because it's what Apple do (unlike Samsung, of course, Apple have a good reason, they're not just doing it to sound cool). Pathetic.

 

[freediverx]

[senseless gibberish deleted]

Philistinism
noun

The social attitude of anti-intellectualism that undervalues and despises art, beauty, spirituality, and intellect. A philistine person is the man or woman who is smugly narrow of mind and of conventional morality whose materialistic views and tastes indicate a lack of and indifference to cultural and æsthetic values.

 

[H2SO4]

That Apple trial graphic pretended that Samsung stopped making flip and other phones afterwards, and that they didn't have any all-touch phones available or in development. Samsung responded by pointing this out:

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Apple lawyers were so keen to claim Apple's designs as being unique, that they even included the pre-iPhone Samsung F700 design as evidence of "copying" before realizing their embarrassing mistake:

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Also interesting was the "IReen" touch UI that Samsung had been developing the year before the iPhone. Apple lawyers bent over backwards to have their images banned from the California trial, because they would prove that Apple's ideas were not unique. The jurors never got to see it:

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For that matter, it's known that in mid 2005 Apple was still working on an iPod based iPhone. If you want to present biased before-and-after comparisons, let's look at the Korean-designed Pidion touch smartphone that came out shortly before Apple internally decided to change to all-touch:

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Unwired magazine even eerily correctly predicted that Apple might later use a similar design.

Naturally, Apple's lawyers also got the Pidion prior art evidence banned from the California jury. OTOH, in Europe where prior art such as the Pidion evidence was allowed, Apple lost their iPhone design infringement claims against Samsung. It was clear that Apple's design was NOT unique.

As for copying software, don't even get people started on the features that Apple has copied from Android. Or for that matter, originally from people like Jeff Han and his multi-touch demo. Everyone takes the best ideas from each other, and we all benefit. The difference is that Apple often tries to claim them as theirs alone.

Unfortunately KD, all here are going to pretend that your post was written in white 4 point text.

 

[freediverx]

Oh please. As a german car owner, (which I love BTW), I can tell you that I’m nothing but disappointed with the rattles and squeaks in my cabin. The low rent, (feeling), Avensis I had on the other hand simply would not break. That was not for want of trying either.
Something that feeels nice in a tactile manner does not equal quality. We both know that one the whole cars from the orient are far more relaible than those from elsewhere.

What a crock.

What German car are you speaking of and how old is it? I have a several year old BMW and it has no rattles or squeaks. The Audis and BMWs I've ridden in have also been devoid of such annoyances. Now if you're talking about a 10 year old VW, that's another story.

So which part of my statement is wrong?

I quoted your comments in my response.

You wrote:
"Samsung is a hell of a brand. May not be as shiny as Apple but a hell of a brand all the same. Do a Wiki search on it. By the way Samsung is in countless more industries than Apple, countless."

So your claim was that Samsung is a great brand and that they are in a lot of industries.

I responded by citing numerous articles outlining Samsung's reputation as corrupt, as having a corrupting influence on Korean politics, and as having a history of stealing designs from truly innovative companies. So your last sentence was correct - Samsung does reach across various industries - and their reputation for corruption and theft spans across those industries.

These are not qualities I associate with a great brand.