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The restrictive and limited design of iOS is a better fit for tech-illiterate that's why Apple and IBM are pitching it for senior citizens and why it's popular in the younger educational market.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/apple-ibm-and-japan-post-see-profit-in-the-old-age-market/?_r=0

Hah - or anyone that doesn't want to have to screw with their computers/devices and instead prefers things to "just work".

I write massively parallel scientific simulation code for some of the largest supercomputers on the planet. All day, every day, I'm working at the lowest possible level on some of the most complicated code and machines that exist.

When I want to make a phone call, add an appointment to my calendar, relax and read some blogs or play a quick game on my phone during my commute: I just want stuff to work! I have enough stuff going on everyday that I don't need to add complication to the devices I interact with all day. I don't WANT to customize my phone. I don't WANT to spend hours figuring out why that new OS I sideloaded onto my tablet won't boot. I have other stuff to get done!

I completely understand tinkerers: I used to be one and I'm glad Android exists for people that want to do that. But why can't those people understand that you don't have to be "tech-illiterate" to appreciate devices that work properly without a ton of maintenance and mindshare?
 
There is a difference between simply increasing the size of a device and copying unique features.
Hm, as far as I know there is no Apple device with a curved screen edge, is there? That's actually a pretty great feature, since you can scroll by sliding your thumb along the edge without it getting in the way.

For me this video does feel like a parody, although I doubt it was intentional. But honestly, I find many of Apple's similar videos silly, as they often attempt make a huge deal out of trivial things (remember "diamond-cut chamfered edges"?).
 
For what it's worth. I like the new parkour action commercials they've been running. Totally caught me off guard. #thinkdifferent
 
I completely understand tinkerers: I used to be one and I'm glad Android exists for people that want to do that. But why can't those people understand that you don't have to be "tech-illiterate" to appreciate devices that work properly without a ton of maintenance and mindshare?

I use both ecosystems so you don't have to resort to making up fairy tales. Do you buy a home with pre-arranged furniture and appliances that may not be to your liking? Well, that's what iOS is because you can't even arrange the order of the home screen icons to your liking or hide the ones you don't use. Can't freely move files between iOS and laptop/desktop. Not all things on iOS just work either. There are issues with Safari tab reloads, premature app closures, Siri not working more often than it does, Apple Maps giving wrong or outdated info, etc.
 
I use both ecosystems so you don't have to resort to making up fairy tales. Do you buy a home with pre-arranged furniture and appliances that may not be to your liking? Well, that's what iOS is because you can't even arrange the order of the home screen icons to your liking or hide the ones you don't use. Can't freely move files between iOS and laptop/desktop. Not all things on iOS just work either. There are issues with Safari tab reloads, premature app closures, Siri not working more often than it does, Apple Maps giving wrong or outdated info, etc.

To arrange your home screen icons you need to press and hold on an icon until they start "shaking"... then you can arrange them as you like.

Hope that helps!
 
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To arrange your home screen icons you need to press and hold on an icon until they start "shaking"... then you can arrange them as you like.

Only if you like your furniture and appliances all bunched together on one side of the house. Also, try putting spaces between them.

I prefer putting icons closer to the bottom where they're more accessible with thumb but you can't on iOS.
 
Looks like Samsung hired JJ Abrams to edit together some stock footage and a few poorly rendered shots. It's just classless and has zero craft as a piece of film, which is ironic.
 
My personal view is that iOS is designed for folk who can't be trusted with tech, a sort of hold your hand device.

The restrictive and limited design of iOS is a better fit for tech-illiterate that's why Apple and IBM are pitching it for senior citizens and why it's popular in the younger educational market.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/apple-ibm-and-japan-post-see-profit-in-the-old-age-market/?_r=0

Oh Please, there was some guy in my Differential Equations class bragging about his One Plus One last week and I knew more about the internals of the phone than he did. I've been using an iPhone for 5 years. Give me break. With that said, the majority of the Android user base is probably on cheap smartphones, and most are FAR from being tech-litterate.

Generalizations make you sound no better than fanboys.

I actually had a Windows Phone(Samsung Omnia) before I switched to iOS in 2010. Moving to my 3GS felt like a breath of fresh air. Just as, if not more powerful, yet far more easier to use. Android also has its strong points, but other than customization Android didn't do anything better than my iPhone can for my uses. I like customization, but I'm not goimg to switch OSes because of it.
 
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Looks like Samsung hired JJ Abrams to edit together some stock footage and a few poorly rendered shots. It's just classless and has zero craft as a piece of film, which is ironic.

As a filmmaker, I completely disagree.

The Samsung video is far more interesting and captures the mood better. The shots and the pacing of the edit are also much more dynamic and better suited to an online release where people generally don't watch things full-screen.

I don't really care about who did it first, but in terms of film making - Samsung did it better.

Besides, The s6 edge is a great idea and an innovative piece of design. Samsung should show it off.
 
I didn't ask for Apple features that you don't find useful. I asked for Apple features that provide no real world purpose or utility.

the state of being useful, profitable, or beneficial. That's the definition of utility. Trying to obfuscate by changing my words won't work. Especially when you use a synonym. Worse, the word is derived from useful.:eek: Try harder.

Continuity
A lot of people who own an iPhone also own an iPad and one or more Macs or MacBooks. If you don't believe me walk onto any college campus and see how many students are using Macs vs. Windows. Even years ago, before Ballmer's departure from Microsoft, his executives were frequently photographed running Powerpoint presentations from carefully hidden MacBooks. I use Continuity and Handoff all the time, and it's not difficult to imagine its utility even if you, personally, can't use it.

You asked for an example where an Apple feature would have no utility. I gave you one. I never claimed a lot of people don't own multiple Apple products so your response here makes no sense. If a billion people had multiple Apple devices it still wouldn't change the utility for the person who only owns one. Besides, you didn't ask me to give you an example based on what you use all the time. Or did you?


Siri
Are you kidding me? I use Siri almost exclusively over the GUI when setting reminders, answering quick text messages, asking for directions, checking for a quick weather forecast, checking for movie times, adding items to my shopping list, and certainly for any functions while driving. With the Apple Watch, many early reviewers have commented that Siri works so well, it may well end up being the primary method for interacting with the device.

No I'm not kidding you. What does any of this have to do with the price of tea in China? As I said, a person who has no need for a voice activated assistant will find no utility in Siri. Just because you do, it doesn't mean everyone else does.

These two features alone have actually changed how millions of people interact with their devices on a daily basis. Real world utility - not just a bullet point in a product brochure. And unlike Samsung's curved displays, waterproof port covers, user accessible batteries, and removable memory cards, neither Siri nor Continuity will be abandoned in the next year.

You dismiss Samsung's functionality because you find no utility in the features you mentioned. Other do find usefulness in the curved display, the IP67 cover, accessible batteries, and memory cards. For those people, there is utility. Utility isn't dependent upon whether or not freediverx uses it. Sorry, but it's just not. Abandoned? What's the relevance? I thought we were discussing utility. Abandoned is about as relevant as MagSafe on the MB;)
 
The restrictive and limited design of iOS is a better fit for tech-illiterate that's why Apple and IBM are pitching it for senior citizens and why it's popular in the younger educational market.

http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2015/04/30/apple-ibm-and-japan-post-see-profit-in-the-old-age-market/?_r=0

Yes, Mac and Windows are also better for the tech-illiterate than is Ubuntu.

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It's many Korean companies that copy, not just one.

Mercedes commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJKeaTRpT1c

Hyundai commercial:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXCr0xlGi3g

Hyundai has a lot less shame than Samsung. They sold straight up Mercedes knockoffs:
Hyundai_Genesis_--_04-13-2010.jpg
 
Doesn't change the fact that you are wrong.

Unfortunately (for all Samsung fans), I'm not wrong. Unless you work for Samsung (and are upper management) you have no idea how good or bad they are doing. When the S5 was released they claimed that it was selling like hotcakes...and now we know what a dud that model was. All we really know is that they have struggled - to put it mildly - for more than a year.
 
I checked out the S6 edge today...the curved screen looks pretty cool, but the overall feel is super cheap and tacky. No way does the iPhone 6 feel dated in comparison. The S6 edge feels like a mid range phone in compared to the iPhone 6

Cool, that's your opinion and you're entitled to that. I personally fail to see how the S6 Edge looks cheap. And like a midrange phone? That's a bit of stretch, don't you think? If the S6 Edge looks like a mid range phone, then the iPhone looks like something you'd find at Boost Mobile for 29.99. The S6 Edge's design is beautiful and yes it makes my iPhone (especially with the over sized bezels) look dated as hell. Just looking at many reviews and based on the customers that I deal with at my job, I'm clearly not the only one who feels that way.

Apple fans need to just face facts, this round went to Samsung. The S6 Edge > iPhone 6 in every way. Even if one still prefers the iPhone (which is cool btw) I simply say give credit to where it's due. Samsung came up with a unique design with the Edge, with great software and awesome hardware. Kudos to them. I don't get why it's so hard for some Apple fans to take off the fanboy hat and realize that not everything Apple does is the best. Again, I'm #TeamApple with my iPhone, Apple TV, among other gadgets...but I can still admit when another company (particularly Samsung) out does Apple. The S6 and especially the Edge is a prime example of Sammy out doing Apple. Hopefully this will make Apple come out with something great for the 6S and especially the 7 next year. Like I've said on so many occasions, competition is good for the consumers.
 
Yes, Mac and Windows are also better for the tech-illiterate than is Ubuntu.

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Hyundai has a lot less shame than Samsung. They sold straight up Mercedes knockoffs:
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It's rather sad. I try to say away from anything Korean except my TV's. Can't find anything really good from anyone else.
 
Actually there are plenty that while technically right, are also technically meaningless because they are right by a wide margin.

Namely, the materials and measuring in nanometers.

First, the materials are by no means impossible.

Curved glass are used extensively in architecture.

Aluminium are used in auto parts, aircraft parts, ladders, etc. a good percentage of those auto and aircraft parts are milled, for their purposes, they are so hard that they don't dent when dropped, so i am pretty sure their aluminium are denser then a phone's

And diamond tipped bits are nothing new, what do you think we used when steel bits could not do the job? Lasers? They are not the most cost effective option for most commercial projects and Lasers are presently confined to cutting 2D shapes from sheets of materials in terms of mass production.

Why did they not mention their curved oled? Thats something that actually is novel!

But the one thing that really caught my attention was that bit about measuring in nanometers. I would like to explain something and then let you know what i think of that. First off, some information.

A nanometer is

1/1,000,000,000 of a meter, or 0.000000001 or a meter.

Most manufacturing industry measures in microns or in terms of micro meters,

Which is 1/1,000,000 of a meter, or 0.000001 of a meter.

Now, thermal expansion,

Going from 20°c to 21°c,

A strip of 10 cm long aluminium strip would grow by about 2.4microns, or 0.0000024 of a meter.

A strip of 10cm long glass, would grow by about
0.9microns, or 0.0000009 of a meter.

What this means is that if you were looking for deviations on the order of nanometers, you are looking for deviations of +/-0.0000000xx of a meter. Coupled with thermal expansion, your results will fluctuate by thousands of nanometers off because you cannot absolutely control temperature(human touch transfer heat for instance). Your measurements are literally functionally useless when viewed at the nanometer scale, you might as well use the micrometer scale.

So all in all with all that considered, i thus would like to state for the record that, That video is full of ********.

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Addon:

Here are some objects that measure about 10 micron :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10_micrometres

Notice at the end paper is just under 100 microns thick,
Blood cells are about 10 microns wide,

This goes further to show,

A) you wont see thermal expansion of 2microns and

B) nanometer precision is nonsensical.
 
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Ha...you better get that view out of your head soon then. I'm a database administrator and I work in a tech company. The majority of the software engineers (actually, the vast majority of the people who work there, not just the techies) use iPhones. Sure, there are a couple of guys here and there who use Android (a couple even use Windows phones), but most of the folk at my company (I don't know if you can trust them with tech, but at least they were able to get a job with tech) use an iPhone (and an iPad if they own a tablet).


It seems that Android fans would want the world to believe that iPhone are for dummies and Android is for geeks. In my experience, most geeks (programmers) use iPhones. It could have something to do with the fact that we spend most of our days making sure code works correctly...we don't have a lot of time and energy to mess with our phones. IMO, Android is for tech wannabes...who want to sell the illusion that they are so savvy because they know the ins and outs of a phone OS.

Your explanation sounds to me more a case of peer pressure and not wanting to be different from the flock - the most basic human trait. I find those that work in tech the worst of the flock for exhibiting this trait.

I myself have moved from iOS to Android (which believe me had nothing to do with the cost of phones etc.) and I don't mind admitting it's been a revelation.

The 'everything just works' strap line applies equally to Android. It really is a great OS and so liberating.
 
Hah - or anyone that doesn't want to have to screw with their computers/devices and instead prefers things to "just work".

I write massively parallel scientific simulation code for some of the largest supercomputers on the planet. All day, every day, I'm working at the lowest possible level on some of the most complicated code and machines that exist.

When I want to make a phone call, add an appointment to my calendar, relax and read some blogs or play a quick game on my phone during my commute: I just want stuff to work! I have enough stuff going on everyday that I don't need to add complication to the devices I interact with all day. I don't WANT to customize my phone. I don't WANT to spend hours figuring out why that new OS I sideloaded onto my tablet won't boot. I have other stuff to get done!

I completely understand tinkerers: I used to be one and I'm glad Android exists for people that want to do that. But why can't those people understand that you don't have to be "tech-illiterate" to appreciate devices that work properly without a ton of maintenance and mindshare?

I have to agree here. I understand that there are plenty of folks that are better off not being able to dig too deep and access file systems and such. However, there are also plenty of well versed users that simply want things to just work well without having to tweak, optimize, rearrange, delete, etc, etc. Just want to play hearthstone or bang out a few emails.

I don't need access to the kernel for any of that, LOL. :D
 
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