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Yeah, we've all been there, that period of time when Android seems so great, but then the longer you use it the slower it becomes and then the lag start and it just goes down hill from here. Been there and done that! I cannot wait to get rid of my Note 4. Don't be fooled!

It's funny, you are like the 8th person to tell me that. And my main is an iPhone 6+ and while had some weird issues, things definitely don't ever slow down. I love the design, but glad I didn't pay for it. It will go back in 2 weeks.
 
Screw the terminals, most credit cards don't have chips in them either. I don't see Bank of The West getting chips anytime soon. I don't see any bank announcing anything. So who cares if stores get terminals that are chip only, most people don't have credit or debit cards that have chips and I doubt they will. One thing I noticed is that debit cards never have chips.
Banks have been replacing cards with chip enabled cards as they expire or customer requests replacement. Most major banks are also reissuing cards with chips proactively if they won't expire before October. All the credit cards I carry now have a chip. All new credit cards from Citibank, Bank of America, Chase, Capital One, Wells Fargo, US Bank, American Express, and Discover all come with chips now. I can't speak for regional banks or credit unions, but those banks I listed cover the vast majority of credit cards issued.

Most debit cards don't have chips because they don't have as much fraud protection. For credit card fraud, the customer usually has zero liability so the bank has to shell out money to cover the fraud. For debit cards, the money is taken right out of your pockets, not the banks, so they have less incentive/need to spend the money on better fraud protection on debit. Each chip card apparently costs about $2 each to issue, vs something like 40 cents for a non-chip card. Chase, however, has been issuing debit cards with chips. They're the only one as far as I know.
 
Banks have been replacing cards with chip enabled cards as they expire. Most major banks are reissuing cards with chips proactively if they won't expire before October. All the cards I carry now have a chip. All new credit cards from Citi, Bank of America, Chase, Wells Fargo, US Bank, American Express, and Discover all come with chips. I can't speak for regional banks or credit unions, but those banks I listed cover the vast majority of credit cards issued.

Most debit cards don't have chips because they don't have as much fraud protection. For credit card fraud, the customer usually has zero liability so the bank has to shell out money to cover the fraud. For debit cards, the money is taken right out of your pockets, not the banks, so they have less incentive/need to spend the money on better fraud protection on debit. Each chip card apparently costs about $2 each to issue, vs something like 40 cents for a non-chip card. Chase, however, has been issuing debit cards with chips. They're the only one as far as I know.

Thanks for telling me that, actually I've been deciding between chase and other banks and like to use debit cards mostly because I don't spend money I don't have. Having a chip would be nice.

The big ones also support Apple pay, pretty much none of the smaller ones support it. There is a huge population that doesn't use the big banks and even larger that uses debit cards. So either way, you are looking at terminals with mag strips staying, if for the sake of debit cards. Remember, debit cards save retailers a TON of money over time as there is very little transaction fees involved.

The expenses involved in retailers dealing with chips is too high. Something like this almost seems like it would have to be an act of congress, because it will screw over every single small business known not to mention companies like square having to replace EVERY terminal they ever sold.

I can see verifone going out of business as well.
 
Banks have been replacing cards with chip enabled cards as they expire or customer requests replacement. Most major banks are also reissuing cards with chips proactively if they won't expire before October. All the credit cards I carry now have a chip. All new credit cards from Citibank, Bank of America, Chase, Capital One, Wells Fargo, US Bank, American Express, and Discover all come with chips now. I can't speak for regional banks or credit unions, but those banks I listed cover the vast majority of credit cards issued.

Most debit cards don't have chips because they don't have as much fraud protection. For credit card fraud, the customer usually has zero liability so the bank has to shell out money to cover the fraud. For debit cards, the money is taken right out of your pockets, not the banks, so they have less incentive/need to spend the money on better fraud protection on debit. Each chip card apparently costs about $2 each to issue, vs something like 40 cents for a non-chip card. Chase, however, has been issuing debit cards with chips. They're the only one as far as I know.
While I'm currently residing in China, I know that banks back in Canada (I'm originally from the Greater Toronto Area) have been distributing both credit cards and debit cards with chips for years. I came to China around 4 years ago in 2011 and even before I made the move, my cards already had chips in them.

Granted, the US banks and Canadian banks probably have different initiatives and goals in mind so you can't directly compare them, but there's definitely more out there than people might think.
 
Unfortunately, yes... the only differences that could have been made slightly (month or 2) down the line would be Exynos 7422 instead of 7420, a better camera, and maybe newer Android software. Design wise, they would have had to decide against the thinness thing in favor of a better battery and SD card inclusion, which they didn't seem to do.
Also, I would guess their motivation is to do anything to increase their sales numbers, since the previous phones were not that successful (no matter what the corporate-speak-bobble-heads publicly proclaim). Like that Samsung are 'innovators' and 'pioneers'...it really is absurd that their directors can keep a straight face when saying such crap.
 
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Haha. Love how they're rushing to release ahead of the next iPhones.

The Galaxy Note 5 isn't even going to be released in Europe this year!!

By the way, their watch and add-on keyboard both look hideous.
Yes, it's like someone in Samsung's design department decided to troll management with the keyboard slide on...and they bought it! The watch is beyond vile -- and yet another instance of OS design copying.
 
Thanks for telling me that, actually I've been deciding between chase and other banks and like to use debit cards mostly because I don't spend money I don't have. Having a chip would be nice.

The big ones also support Apple pay, pretty much none of the smaller ones support it. There is a huge population that doesn't use the big banks and even larger that uses debit cards. So either way, you are looking at terminals with mag strips staying, if for the sake of debit cards. Remember, debit cards save retailers a TON of money over time as there is very little transaction fees involved.

The expenses involved in retailers dealing with chips is too high. Something like this almost seems like it would have to be an act of congress, because it will screw over every single small business known not to mention companies like square having to replace EVERY terminal they ever sold.

I can see verifone going out of business as well.
Oh for sure, mag stripe will stay for a very long time. It will still be used as a fallback if the chip reader fails. I'm just not sure how the fraud liability will be handled with an MST transaction if the actual card has a chip on it. Most major retailers have already replaced their terminals with chip-enabled ones as they upgraded over the years to ones with color LCDs, touch screens, and NFC capability. I believe most card terminals issues over the last few years have chip readers. There will definitely be a lot of small businesses with older card readers that will have to either pay up for a new terminal or cover the potential fraud. The terminal would be cheaper...

If you have the discipline to control your spending with a credit card, I highly recommend that over using a debit card because of the fraud protection. Or at least use PIN instead of swiping as "credit" whenever possible.
 
i wait for the day when samsung will rename itself as "SAPPLE"
I would really like to 'thumbs up' your comment 20 times. Very on target! If they weren't so proud of their 'tradition' as represented by their name, they could rename their phone division as a fruit which begins with..."S"; I suggest the sorbus or service tree apple! :)
 
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Beautiful handsets. I never thought that there comes a time when Samsung is actually leading the market in physical design. The watch looks pretty good too. Samsung Pay is definitely the most exciting thing, though. Hopefully it takes off.
Thanks, Samsung paid poster! /s/ *NOT!* Oh, and you were right about one thing, I'll rephrase it for you for accuracy -- 'never will there be a time when Samsung leads the market in physical or software design'.
 
Oh for sure, mag stripe will stay for a very long time. It will still be used as a fallback if the chip reader fails. I'm just not sure how the fraud liability will be handled with an MST transaction if the actual card has a chip on it. Most major retailers have already replaced their terminals with chip-enabled ones as they upgraded over the years to ones with color LCDs, touch screens, and NFC capability. I believe most card terminals issues over the last few years have chip readers. There will definitely be a lot of small businesses with older card readers that will have to either pay up for a new terminal or cover the potential fraud. The terminal would be cheaper...

If you have the discipline to control your spending with a credit card, I highly recommend that over using a debit card because of the fraud protection. Or at least use PIN instead of swiping as "credit" whenever possible.

The discipline part is hard, but yeah, I'll start doing that. The fraud protection is worth it anyway. And for the most part I think you are absolutely right. I'm thinking back and every store I go to, has NFC readers already. I was surprised on how many had apple pay. Bank of The West doesn't support Apple Pay yet, nor will for a few years, which is why I'm thinking of moving to Chase.

So I guess I take back most of what I said. The small businesses mostly are already liable for fraud as credit cards always protect the consumers anyway. So for the most part it's probably in their better interest to upgrade so that their liability is even a fraction lower.
 
Apple takes in the lion share of the mobile profits. The rest including Samsung takes the scraps. Samsung is doing everything possible to copy the iPhone to increase their profits. Removing SD and removable battery are all part of a strategy to force users to buy higher storage capacity phones. In line with Apple, this is a move to increase profits.

Also, copying the UI and making the naming convention similar is a move to help scrupulous sales reps at various carrier stores sell iPhone like devices to uninformed buyers. Samsung will fail again and will be on their last leg this time next year.
I agree with everything you said -- but i think you meant to write "unscrupulous" sales reps'
 
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/parmyolson/2015/07/07/samsung-profits-galaxy-s6-edge/

"Samsung Profit Slides For 7th Consecutive Quarter Amid S6 Edge Shortage [...]
Samsung says it probably miss forecasts for the second quarter, with operating profit from April to June likely to slide 4% on an annual basis to 6.9 trillion won ($6.13 billion). Analysts had forecast earnings at 7.2 trillion won ($6.35 billion).

That will mark the second-consecutive quarterly profit decline for Samsung on an annual basis, at a time when the company is struggling to revitalize its product portfolio while Apple takes a bigger bite of the market on the high end and low-cost players like Xiaomi and India’s Micromax sell more phones on the lower end."

Go Samsung.
The so-called S6 Edge 'shortage' is merely Samsung attempting to obscure why they sold so poorly.
 
Lol, their keyboard accessory is HIDEOUS

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Those people who are considering to get it, better also look for bigger pockets
 
I'm keeping my Note 4 and Note Edge for another year. I have removable batteries for each and love being able to just change the battery every day.

As for the watch, it continues to run Tizen like the Gear S so the app support will be poor and Samsung will give little support as they did with the Gear S. I quit wearing my Gear S almost two months ago and I bought it in February. It's the most boring thing I have ever wasted money on.
And, Samsung will probably discontinue support for this watch with the next iteration - in December, just in time for the holidays!;)
 
Screw the terminals, most credit cards don't have chips in them either. I don't see Bank of The West getting chips anytime soon. I don't see any bank announcing anything. So who cares if stores get terminals that are chip only, most people don't have credit or debit cards that have chips and I doubt they will. One thing I noticed is that debit cards never have chips.
I'm not sure where you are located, but here in the U.S. most major banks have already begun rolling out chipped cards as of July. Chase, Citibank, Bank of America, and others, for both credit AND debit cards. I received mine in June as I needed a replacement card (Chase)
 
I love how Samsung's unique selling points were a SD card slot, water/dustproof chassis and a removable battery, so they removed all of them. At seeing low sales for S6, they quickly released new models, which also don't have those features. I'm sure it's going to work really well!

All of those features are in my LG G4. Maybe LG is on to something by sticking with the removable battery and expandable storage since Samsung has went away from it.
 
I'm not particularly an apple fan, but I don't like the design of those handsets
I’m the opposite. I’m an Apple fan and hate the travesty that is the design of the iPhone 6. Seriously that camera doesn’t work at all and the antenna bands are hideous. Even Johnson Ive himself said it was "a really very pragmatic optimisation".
 
The so-called S6 Edge 'shortage' is merely Samsung attempting to obscure why they sold so poorly.

You should know force touch is basically just a new name for pressure-sensitivity capacitive touchscreen right?
Don't be ignorant, they are the ones that introduced this technology to their Note devices first.


Moreover, I went through some comments here and did some research on the Galaxy S Plus, and yes, they did not copy the name. In fact, Apple took the"Plus" name with the iP 6 Plus, the Galaxy S Plus, and Galaxy S2 Plus do exist years before the iPhone 6.

Please pay some respect to others before judging them. Thank you.
 
Wow.

I like Sammy's Galaxy S and Note phones a lot (and I'd still buy one over an iPhone in a heartbeat), but the blatant copying is both inexcusable and unnecessary.

The lack of features that made them distinctive (rem. battery, SD slots, waterproofing) is highly disappointing.

What a shame, because these are spectacular devices.

Samsung, sweetie, you don't NEED to copy Apple. Do what they DON'T, and you'll be fine.
 
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