Samsung Debuts Galaxy S10 and S10+, Along With Premium S10 5G and Lower-Cost S10e

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Highly suggest you read Apple developer docs. iOS suspends apps in the background but can save app state to storage (kind of like suspend to disk on laptops). Android, on the other, can keep apps running in the background for things like media/file/web server. So, it's false to say that Android is unoptimized. That doesn't make any sense like saying Mac is unoptimized compared to iPod.

So true, which is why I had so many issues with cloud apps uploading in the background. I had to open them to finish uploading.

 

[bigjnyc]

You did not have a pure version of Android, you used Samsung's version and that might very well have been crappy. Pure Android on the Pixel line is brilliant and in my oppopin far superior to iOS in terms of usability and stability.

I’ll have to try it again some day

 

[DNichter]

Spec nerds will love it. Samsung knows their target market.

 

[Glockworkorange]

That's genuinely one of the funniest things I've ever read on here.

You truly have RAM problems? Laugh all you want---I never hear that complaint.

 

[Brandonjr36]

Very nice hardware... I really wish Android wasn't such a crappy mess.

It’s not anymore!!

 

[mattster16]

Until Apple copies it, then you’ll think it’s the greatest thing ever. LOL

No, it will always be ultra inefficient. I’m not even a huge fan of wireless charging in general. It’s slower and wasteful.
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And down to 20% just to give 5%? What kind of silly math is that?

It might be an exaggeration, but wireless charging is very inefficient. Only around 60% at best. So for instance, to charge your Gear it will take over 600 mAh of your phones capacity to do so.

 

[iReality85]

Very nice overall build. Looks like quality.

That said, my two biggest criticisms. One is the camera hole punch. I get it looks futuristic, but really, in terms of a practicality stand point, what is the purpose of even having a pixel display between the hole punch and the bezel? It’s like what, a few pixels wide? Why even bother.

Second, that chin. If you’re going to slim the bezels that much (and they are pretty thin — good job Samsung), just make them the same thickness? Why is the chin like a mm or two thicker than the head? Samsung goes to all this length to make a well built product and they don’t make the bezels symmetrical?

 

[torana355]

Spec nerds will love it. Samsung knows their target market.

Was that comment really needed? It's actually a very well rounded device, it's not just about the specs. I'm sure the iPhone will gain the same features in a few years time
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Very nice overall build. Looks like quality.

That said, my two biggest criticisms. One is the camera hole punch. I get it looks futuristic, but really, in terms of a practicality stand point, what is the purpose of even having a pixel display between the hole punch and the bezel? It’s like what, a few pixels wide? Why even bother.

Second, that chin. If you’re going to slim the bezels that much (and they are pretty thin — good job Samsung), just make them the same thickness? Why is the chin like a mm or two thicker than the head? Samsung goes to all this length to make a well built product and they don’t make the bezels symmetrical?

The Chin is the same size as the iPhone XS with much smaller side and top bezels. It makes the XS look completely dated.

 

[I7guy]

Was that comment really needed? It's actually a very well rounded device, it's not just about the specs. I'm sure the iPhone will gain the same features in a few years time
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The Chin is the same size as the iPhone XS with much smaller side and top bezels. It makes the XS look completely dated.

I'd rather have the notch, but that's me.

 

[torana355]

I'd rather have the notch, but that's me.

You would be in the the minority there. Basically all the major Youtube tech reviewers disagree with you, then again they are not biased. Im sure deep down you prefer the looks of the S10 but you would never admit it

 

[R.P.G]

that fingerprint sensor is real cool innovation...Just let me remove the Bloatware and you are good to go Samsung..please.
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Well it’s official. I’m now bored of the X design. I’m digging these new Samsung phones for once.

If the 2019 iPhone does not have a new design, I will not only be disappointed but it will also be the first time I keep a phone for 3 years.

you may get disappointed..Apple going nowhere this year on the design. They may stick to the design for next two or three generations.

 

[I7guy]

You would be in the the minority there. Basically all the major Youtube tech reviewers disagree with you, then again they are not biased. Im sure deep down you prefer the looks of the S10 but you would never admit it

I’m sure you would be wrong there. However I vote with my wallet and to the manufacturers that’s what’s counts. But thanks for digging deep into my psyche and telling me how I feel.

 

[torana355]

I’m sure you would be wrong there. However I vote with my wallet and to the manufacturers that’s what’s counts. But thanks for digging deep into my psyche and telling me how I feel.

My pleasure

 

[DNichter]

Was that comment really needed? It's actually a very well rounded device, it's not just about the specs. I'm sure the iPhone will gain the same features in a few years time
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The Chin is the same size as the iPhone XS with much smaller side and top bezels. It makes the XS look completely dated.

Sure, it’s just as needed as any other comment on the thread. Samsung loves to throw as many big numbers as possible at their customers so that they can come over to sites like this and gloat about their big numbers. It’s a weird complex for sure. What features would that be?

 

[ColdShadow]

I’ll be honest,I have the best Apple has to offer (iPhone Xs Max) but I genuinely believe Samsung hardware is superior.

I always prefered vibrancy and quality of Samsung flagship displays vs Apple flagship display and in terms on design Samsung is doing a better job ..much better.

the under screen finger print sensor is amazing and if I could choice ,I’d take that vs Face ID any day (no matter how accurate Face ID is finger print scanner always beat it in terms of ergonomics and versatility).and I always preferred Samsung camera quality and superior hardware design.

The only reason I use iPhone is the Apple ecosystem and iOS vs android.
hardwarewise,Samsung is the clear winner (unless you are a blind fanboy or ignorant) and Apple hardware is outdated.but Apple wins in software departmenr.

 

[Blaze4G]

Yes. It’s just as needed as any other comment on the thread. Samsung loves to throw as many big numbers as possible at their customers so that they can come over to sites like this and gloat about their big numbers. It’s a weird complex for sure.

I agree and Apple loves to throw one big number...the price. Then the Apple nerds gloat about how much iPhones Apple sell. It's a weird complex for sure.

 

[Shanpdx]

just saw the quick video by wsj, not sure if it all mentioned here in the all of the 10 pages... headphone jack is back?

 

[jeffg1]

LOL. They're pulling an Apple with masking the hole with wallpaper.

Like everything except for the hole but maybe it's a stepping stone to when they can switch the display between opaque and transparent so there's no visible hole when not using camera.

12GB RAM is nice for future proofing but would like to know how they plan to utilize it more than just an app cache to keep apps in memory. No mention of DeX enhancements like addition of Windows 10 on ARM that would benefit.

they no longer need to mention DeX, since the release of the Note 9, DeX software has been included in the android build all you need is an HDMI cable to activate the DeX enhancements.

 

[I7guy]

I’ll be honest,I have the best Apple has to offer (iPhone Xs Max) but I genuinely believe Samsung hardware is superior.

I always prefered vibrancy and quality of Samsung flagship displays vs Apple flagship display and in terms on design Samsung is doing a better job ..much better.

the under screen finger print sensor is amazing and if I could choice ,I’d take that vs Face ID any day (no matter how accurate Face ID is finger print scanner always beat it in terms of ergonomics and versatility).and I always preferred Samsung camera quality and superior hardware design.

The only reason I use iPhone is the Apple ecosystem and iOS vs android.
hardwarewise,Samsung is the clear winner (unless you are a blind fanboy or ignorant) and Apple hardware is outdated.but Apple wins in software departmenr.

I don’t agree about the hardware ( and anybody can have any opinion). Face id is awesome. All I have to do is look at my phone to see my notifications. I have preview turned off due to security concerns.

Touch ID set a new bar for finger print readers. This ultrasonic reader sets a new bar for under the screen finger print readers. As I said before it would be nice to have multiple options but that’s not how apple rolls.

 

[jeffg1]

Ummm, if you get the screen protector without the hole... it has been reported that the under screen sensor does not work. How useful is a screen sensor that does not sense?

that was just rumor. Plastic screen protectors will work without any holes in it. As for tempered glass it has to be Samsung certified.

https://www.androidcentral.com/does-galaxy-s10-fingerprint-sensor-work-screen-protectors
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It’s good that it works for you, in your opinion.

Samsung’s implementation of under glass Touch ID is the future. I have no intention of having my eyes bombarded with IR from the Flood Illuminater every time I look at a device. Samsung’s implementation avoids the PITA of having to swipe up after unlock with Face ID.

If Android was not such crapware I’d be on the 10E in a heartbeat. Hardware used to have equal value with software from Apple with me. Tim has turned Apple Hardware into half baked, poorly implemented, poorly designed low quality high priced toys for teenagers and Anamojis. I look forward to his replacement in 2020.

Aside from Samsung having horrible software update schedules, the new One UI update to the S9 and Note 9 has done a great job of not being crapware, lag free and very responsive.

 

[Cladster]

You would be in the the minority there. Basically all the major Youtube tech reviewers disagree with you, then again they are not biased. Im sure deep down you prefer the looks of the S10 but you would never admit it

Guess if you like the look of a 8/8 plus camera on the front of your screen.

They did a good job copying air pods.

 

[torana355]

Sure, it’s just as needed as any other comment on the thread. Samsung loves to throw as many big numbers as possible at their customers so that they can come over to sites like this and gloat about their big numbers. It’s a weird complex for sure. What features would that be?

No, Samsung like to push the envelope, they actually innovate, something Apple used to do years ago. If you want to talk about weird complexes let's discuss how Apple fans brag about the amount of profit Apple makes, now that is weird.

 

[I7guy]

No, Samsung like to push the envelope, they actually innovate, something Apple used to do years ago. If you want to talk about weird complexes let's discuss how Apple fans brag about the amount of profit Apple makes, now that is weird.

If apple used to innovate, so dis Samsung Today Samsung iterates. More memory, hole in the display, new finger print reader is not innovation...maybe invention. More of the same hardware...not really.

Yeah, I agree about the discussion of weird things like Samsung is better due to their market share. To each their own I guess.

 

[torana355]

If apple used to innovate, so dis Samsung Today Samsung iterates. More memory, hole in the display, new finger print reader is not innovation...maybe invention. More of the same hardware...not really.

Yeah, I agree about the discussion of weird things like Samsung is better due to their market share. To each their own I guess.

Honestly i'm not here to argue semantics, Im sure you understand what i mean when i say that Samsung push the envelope, they don't play things safe, and i like that. I love that the wireless fast charging is now basically the same speed as wired fast charging, i love how they are pushing the size of the battery, i love how they implemented an ultrasonic in-screen FPS, i love that the screen is the most colour accurate of ANY display on the market and fully supports HDR10+, i love that they introduced a Super Wide angle lens. These are are useful features that i'm excited about.

 

[I7guy]

Honestly i'm not here to argue semantics, Im sure you understand what i mean when i say that Samsung push the envelope, they don't play things safe, and i like that. I love that the wireless fast charging is now basically the same speed as wired fast charging, i love how they are pushing the size of the battery, i love how they implemented an ultrasonic in-screen FPS, i love that the screen is the most colour accurate of ANY display on the market and fully supports HDR10+, i love that they introduced a Super Wide angle lens. These are are useful features that i'm excited about.

The ekg in the Apple Watch is a good example of innovation. I don’t see how anybody following these two companies says with a straight face Samsung innovates but Apple doesn’t. But if that is your opinion, I feel the personal definition of innovation is at play here. You may like certain features but we can debate whether they are incremental or innovation.