Stop making stuff up lol. Actually watch some videos of the people who already have the phone, the fps very fast and accurate. Flossy is very impressed with it.
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Samsung Debuts Galaxy S10 and S10+, Along With Premium S10 5G and Lower-Cost S10e
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I love the S10E. Seems like a great compromise between keeping my iPhone XS Max or just getting the S10E and pocketing the $.
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Mac and iPhone owner here. I don't care if the A12 processor is faster nor do I care about read or write speeds. Apple doesn't deserve to be put on a pedestal. They're not perfect. We have seen bending iPad Pros and FaceTime bug fixes gone wrong. Their "privacy" shtick is nothing more than shtick to get people to buy their products. No smartphone is completely impervious to personal data exposure.
If people cared enough about benchmarks, read/write speeds, etc? Then why are Apple sales down in major markets? Why are people willing to use their phones longer?
Samsung, Apple, Google, LG, Sony all have their respective flaws. Neither of them deserve to sit on a pedestal.
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Mac and iPhone owner here. I don't care if the A12 processor is faster nor do I care about read or write speeds. Apple doesn't deserve to be put on a pedestal. They're not perfect. We have seen bending iPad Pros and FaceTime bug fixes gone wrong. Their "privacy" shtick is nothing more than shtick to get people to buy their products. No smartphone is completely impervious to personal data exposure.
If people cared enough about benchmarks, read/write speeds, etc? Then why are Apple sales down in major markets? Why are people willing to use their phones longer?
Samsung, Apple, Google, LG, Sony all have their respective flaws. Neither of them deserve to sit on a pedestal.
The chin is smaller thank the XS Max and you have the option to turn on full gesture navigation mode.
While this is your opinion, it isn't mine.
The connectedness of the interwebs makes it difficult (and the temptation is great for $$$) to mine data once the developer gets their hands on it. Security is not an end-state, it's a process and the privacy "shtick" at Apple seems real. Just can't move the massive machine in a matter of minutes and have to address things as they come up.
Apple would need to get rid of apps like FB off their App Store to send a stronger commitment to privacy. They’re just using it as a marketing tool. Nothing wrong with that.
To me, meaningful innovation means being able to implement technology in a manner which results in a great experience for the end user.
Night mode is excellent by all accounts, but the pixel shipped with numerous other flaws which soured the whole user experience overall.
The galaxy fold is the classic textbook example of a solution looking for a problem. You have a tablet which the user is expected to have to fold and unfold every time they want to use it, and I don’t see how this can possible be considered a great experience for the user, much less at $2000.
I am not paying for specs in a device. I am paying for the company to put all these specs together in a manner that works great for me. And the sad reality is that Samsung can only increasingly rely on their hardware expertise to compensate for their lack of a software and services ecosystem, while ultimately limits their ability to offer a cohesive experience.
They are not going to get themselves into a position of being the internet censor. Education more than an iron-fist is a better way to go.
So what does Apple's devotion to privacy practically amount to if they aren't prepared to actually do anything about it?
They just admitted their "do not track" option was a complete waste of time and even worse gave users a false sense of security. But now we're supposed to believe their new version really is worthwhile?
Would you in that case be happy with just a single iphone SE in the line-up?
Fact is you need great hardware that is well integrated with software to charge premium prices. That is how you make money to maintain and develop the ecosystem.
It wasn’t so long ago that Apple was offering just one iPhone a year in its lineup.
Sure...
But that is not where the market is today. As the user base grows, you'd need cover all price points with products of appropriate value.
By all accounts, the reason Xr hasn't worked as well as Apple hoped is because they are asking too much money for too little!
And Samsung’s answer to that is as follows:
S10e - which evidently has an even worse resolution than the Xr, once you take into consideration the difference between LCD and pentile OLED.
S10 - fairly incremental updates all round
S10 5G - sporting support for a 5G network which to my knowledge is far from being ready
Galaxy fold - an expensive device which seems half-baked. It just doesn’t seem practical to me as a smartphone.
I continue to maintain that round smartwatches are inferior to square ones, and Samsung has likely designed themselves into a corner with their rotating bezel feature.
Not forgetting that for the iPhone, a lot of the value comes from the rest of the ecosystem. The App Store, for example, tends to be better curated and is home to many apps I use that isn’t available on android. I have Apple stores that I can go to for support when necessary. I enjoy tight integration with the rest of my Apple devices.
On the flip side, Samsung is stuck with a heavily-skinned variant of android that they can’t update on time, and little by way of differentiation to make it stand out.
Samsung is relying more and more on its hardware expertise in order to get around what is pretty much a nonexistent software and services portfolio. That’s their Achilles heel right there - the inability to offer a cohesive experience because they don’t control the whole stack.
You obviously have not used a Samsung phone in the last few years, things have changed in the software dept, a lot of reviews are saying One UI is better then Stock Android and I have to agree. The S10 is a very decent upgrade, not sure what else they could have done really. It seems the feedback is very positive on the S10, I guess we will see how it sells in the next few months. Also I much prefer round smartwatches, I like them to look like a real watch, not like a Casio calculator watch from the 90's.
Apple marketing did a great job making you believe a low contrast 1,792x828 (326 ppi) LCD display is better than infinite contrast 2,280x1,080 (435 ppi) OLED just by rebranding it "liquid retina".
Pay no attention to Apple not using this magical LCD in their more expensive phones.
Samsung is being crushed by smartphone competition across the board and sales will likely continue to decline. Samsung is suffering from both a longer upgrade cycle just like everyone else, in addition to market share losses, and it’s affecting them even more so than Apple, for the simple reason that they have little to differentiate their products outside of hardware (which is the easiest to mimic).
The existing Apple versus Samsung smartphone sales dynamic is not going to change because of these new Galaxy S10 devices. There just wasn’t any one thing about these new phones that stood out to me.
There were certainly more updates between the S9 to the S10 than the iPhone X to the Xs.
One UI looks so good. I’ve been watching sakitech’s videos on it and I liked from the time Samsung announced it at the developers conference. Hopping my husband’s note 8 gets the update before my S10 plus comes in on the 8th.
Your post is full of conjecture, how about we wait and see how it sells before jumping to hasty conclusions. Everything I've read is extremely positive about the s10, the only people with negative things to say are die hard Apple fans. The jump from the S9 to the s10 is way bigger then the x to the Xr.
What stood out to you about the last few iPhones?
All the XS got was a slightly better camera, but I guess you don't care about cameras since the S10 with triple lens didn't stand out to you.
I never said I will outsell the iPhone btw, i actually doubt it but I will not be surprised if it sells much better then the S9.Be sure to screenshot my earlier response. You heard it here first.
It is true that Samsung is under pressure but it is not a one-trick pony!
With foldable screens, they have created a new opportunity. If foldable phones do pick-up (even initially a premium product) they have huge head-start!
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/21/sam...apple-goldman-sachs.html?&qsearchterm=samsung
OTOH, Apple with > 60% revenue from iphones doesn't get to become a services company overnight.
Even I will say the jump is bigger as someone who owns lots of Apple products.
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Don’t worry they have their credit card to fall back on whilst they are waiting for services to take off.
For the record, I don’t think Apple is pivoting to become a services company. Their services are there to add value to the Apple ecosystem, but the focus will still be on providing a cohesive experience.
Have some thoughts; will rely you later tonight. Going for dinner soon (almost 5pm here).
The camera was quite a lot better than on the X and the speakers are significantly improved and that’s it. They were decent upgrades but there are more going from the S9 to the S10
Wide angle camera
In display finger print sensor
Fast reverse wireless charging
They are the big updates
But there are also important things like significant increased screen to body ratio and
HDR plus display and recording and other camera upgrades.