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Yeah this is like the people who said "This is the beginning of the end for Apple" after the 4S was announced. A week later, 4million sold. Analysts are annoying enough, but thank goodness it's not the people on this board who are doing the analyzing.

Releasing a product days after the death of it's creator was bound to have an effect on sales. I guess the "4Steve" movement caught on pretty well.
 
So you're talking about ARM, Intel, IBM or Motorola, not Samsung or Apple, don't you?

I am talking about the fact that it doesn't matter who produces the A4 / A5 or any other chip. In Samsung phones, you probably find the same variety of 3rd party producer parts as in any other competitor. Since Apple outsourced practically 100% of their manufacturing, yes, every chip and other part is from non-apple producers. The phone is still an Apple product though. If you look at SSDs, Samsung is amongst the leaders and it would be foolish for Apple not to buy these parts. Point is: the hardware origin is interchangeable depending on who has the capacity at the time to satisfy the demand for the price offered for the needed product (I know, it is a little bit more complicated, but essentially the case). The companies you mention are in this sense interchangeable except Apple because they don't produce themselves (not so sure about IBM). :D
 
At some point, we have to stop doing simple Google searches for Oletros. For someone who appears to be knowledgeable about everything under the sun, search engines seem to be the bane of his existence.


At some point you will have to read what others are saying before writing meaningless things like this.

Please, search for me where I can buy a Galaxy S II off contract for $2. For any you find and buy for me I will buy you an unlocked iPhone 4S 64GB
 
Expected, Samsung makes a lot of good phones. Some are probably crummy but get the job done. Lots of variety vs 1 phone per year. Apple makes a lot of profit off each one of course so both are doing well. Thread will be epic of course :eek:
 
My thoughts exactly. I question this reporting style over and over and over again. Shipped vs. Sales.

Samsung shipped 1 million generation 1 Galaxy Tabs last year. A lenovo exec leaked that they only sold 20,000. So WTF does shipped mean? Best way to find out, how long does a product remain in inventory? Apple's inventory is a few days at most, sometimes a few hours with hot selling items.

Doesn't matter...shipped vs. sales, Samsung still received payment.
 
What is important to note here, is the actual unit growth by Apple from Q3/10 to Q3/11. Why is that?

Well, obviously the iPhone, a new iPhone, is one, if not the most highly anticipated tech gadget. So it sees huge sales immediately when it is released.

When we are comparing iPhone unit sales between Q3/10 and Q3/11, we are comparing the first quarter of the iPhone 4 and the fifth quarter of the iPhone 4. So Apple managed to sell more units of a more than one year old phone, than it sold the quarter it was released. And they didn't do it by reducing the price, they still sold at the same full price.

Nobody but Apple can do this. And with keeping the older iPhones around for years, slowly but surely they are also getting into the market that demands lower priced phones. They are simply doing it the Apple way, they don't design a cheap phone, but rely on components getting cheaper over time and so bringing down the prices for these devices.

You do realize last year at this time the iPhone was only available on one carrier in the US and this year was opened up to include Verizon, by far the largest carrier, right? Or do we not care about details when making year to year comparisons?
 
Releasing a product days after the death of it's creator was bound to have an effect on sales. I guess the "4Steve" movement caught on pretty well.

That doesn't seem to explain the 3GSSteve, or 3GSteve or iPhone4 Steve movements though huh? Nor will it explain the 5Steve movement. But wait, lemme guess. Cults and brainwashing and Kool-Aid, right? :rolleyes:

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At some point you will have to read what others are saying before writing meaningless things like this.

Please, search for me where I can buy a Galaxy S II off contract for $2. For any you find and buy for me I will buy you an unlocked iPhone 4S 64GB

Search yourself! Geez, why do you need people to hold your hand when you do a Google Search?
 
Search yourself! Geez, why do you need people to hold your hand when you do a Google Search?

A little overdramatic aren't we?

I think his point was he DID search and was intimating that the information presented was false or not current. He was challenging someone to prove otherwise.

Relax :)
 
A little overdramatic aren't we?

I think his point was he DID search and was intimating that the information presented was false or not current. He was challenging someone to prove otherwise.

Relax :)

The vitriol you are spewing is unreal! I am devastated by this vitriol. It burns me to my core! And let's stay on topic!

Are you trying to prove my point? Cuz you are.
 
Yep, I agree with the comments of "Samsung shipped more than Apple, Doesn't mean they sold more than Apple."

Manufacturing and shipping larger quantities is one thing, Selling, Marketing and making your device the most wanted device in the USA (if not the world) is another.

That sounds arrogant I know, But I see way more iPhones now than any other phone on the market.



Just sayin. :rolleyes:
 
Yep, I agree with the comments of "Samsung shipped more than Apple, Doesn't mean they sold more than Apple."

Manufacturing and shipping larger quantities is one thing, Selling, Marketing and making your device the most wanted device in the USA (if not the world) is another.

That sounds arrogant I know, But I see way more iPhones now than any other phone on the market.



Just sayin. :rolleyes:

I think most of you think in a USA centric way.
 
That sounds arrogant I know, But I see way more iPhones now than any other phone on the market.



Just sayin. :rolleyes:

Really? Tell us - where do you see these people. How often do you travel outside of your city. State? Country?

Silly comment.
 
No, I 'don't have a problem, I laugh when people exaggerate so much to make a point that make them as unbelievable.

One thing is saying that Android have less polished apps or that iPhone has BT capped. Another thing is saying that Android has zero productivity or iPhone is crap.

Look? Very different things.

Read the persons post again, they said in relation to their experience. Too bad that some people can't relate a bad experience with a Android or W7 without some people getting bent out of shape. :rolleyes:
 
I'm going to put in a request to Samsung to send me some of those Galaxy S II HD LTE phones, since they will just be shipping them to me not selling them
 
Really? Tell us - where do you see these people. How often do you travel outside of your city. State? Country?

Silly comment.

Almost as silly as believing a company who has reported on sold units with their Galaxy line, is not trying to hide something when only reporting shipped elsewhere.
 
I'm happy with this...

I'm pretty much married to iOS platform and don't want to start over with andriod. But this is the kind of thing that will hopefully get Apple to shore up the holes in iOS.

E.g., yesterday I was dying for Siri to turn-by-turn directions.

why not just buy a turn-by-turn gps app? $2.
 
Doesn't matter...shipped vs. sales, Samsung still received payment.

May I suggest to go a little deeper and check out some retail 101?

Eventually they may get paid or get the stuff that doesn't sell returned or it will be closed out at a big discount.

Depending on the size of customer/chain they sell to, they have special agreements about what gets paid when.

Manufacturers are always walking a fine line between wanting their latest products in the stores and getting paid.

Take the HP Touchpad, when these were laying around like bricks I don't think HP saw payments until the mess was cleared up.
 
Almost as silly as believing a company who has reported on sold units with their Galaxy line, is not trying to hide something when only reporting shipped elsewhere.

Apples and Oranges. You're just being contrary because I posted that. Whatever...

Ultimately - to me - I don't really care who sells more. I used what's best for me. And I encourage everyone to do the same. Whether that's Apple, Samsung, Nokia, whatever. The only right tech is the one that works for you. Everything else is just a pissing contest.
 
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