Samsung Easily Tops Apple to Become World's Top Smartphone Manufacturer

[*LTD*]

Ok. And?

Over 60 phone models. Some run Android, some run something else.

I would be the height of embarrassment if Samsung can't push all those units - from the good, to the bad, to the ugly, that are priced to match.

Samsung sells 68 Galaxy phone models (including a few tablets.)

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sQuickSearch=yes&sName=samsung+galaxy

Just filter the search to your heart's content:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung-phones-f-9-10.php

There are certain standards of phone that Apple refuses to ship. This necessarily means that OEM box-makers who push massive volume with universally-licensed operating systems have a much easier time with flooding the market. This is hardly an impressive feat. Especially when the competition that runs a vertically-integrated model with an unlicensed OS tops all the indicators that actually matter, including this:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/0...rankings-of-smartphone-consumer-satisfaction/

http://mashable.com/2011/09/09/apple-customer-satisfaction-survey/


Universal-licensing and flooding the market with all manner of flotsam and jetsam is really the poor man's path to fame.

 

[blahman]

Among the many reasons, one of the main ones is that many people held out buying iPhone 4 during 3Q because of iPhone 4S/5. Even if comparison is apples-to-apples, which I doubt, Apple's profit from iPhones alone is greater than all of Samsung. That's what matters at the end of the day.

 

[Leaping Tortois]

What is important to note here, is the actual unit growth by Apple from Q3/10 to Q3/11. Why is that?

Well, obviously the iPhone, a new iPhone, is one, if not the most highly anticipated tech gadget. So it sees huge sales immediately when it is released.

When we are comparing iPhone unit sales between Q3/10 and Q3/11, we are comparing the first quarter of the iPhone 4 and the fifth quarter of the iPhone 4. So Apple managed to sell more units of a more than one year old phone, than it sold the quarter it was released. And they didn't do it by reducing the price, they still sold at the same full price.

Nobody but Apple can do this. And with keeping the older iPhones around for years, slowly but surely they are also getting into the market that demands lower priced phones. They are simply doing it the Apple way, they don't design a cheap phone, but rely on components getting cheaper over time and so bringing down the prices for these devices.

That is quite interesting. I do agree that it's quite a statement for the iPhone 4, but I'd also point out that according to those figures (the accuracy of which I'm not sure), Samsung managed to up their sales by around 400%! That's no small feat. I think a lot is owing to the Galaxy SII, and Nexus S. Not mention the upcoming Nexus could do a lot of sales.

In the end this makes me happy because I'd much rather two companies battling it out and giving us great devices at lower prices.

 

[Smileyboy]

Lol. Who cares.... I don't want a Samsung phone or tablet copy. I wane the original... iPhone and iPad

 

[samcraig]

But there's something you still don't get. For everyone that buys an Android phone (or any non iOS phone) - it's a customer Apple is not selling their iPhone to. End of story.

Apple's profits and sales are outstanding. Other manufacturers can have their own successes to and have a different model.

Ok. And?

Over 60 phone models. Some run Android, some run something else.

I would be the height of embarrassment if Samsung can't push all those units - from the good, to the bad, to the ugly, that are priced to match.

Samsung sells 68 Galaxy phone models (including a few tablets.)

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sQuickSearch=yes&sName=samsung+galaxy

Just filter the search to your heart's content:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung-phones-f-9-10.php

There are certain standards of phone that Apple refuses to ship. This necessarily means that OEM box-makers who push massive volume with universally-licensed operating systems have a much easier time with flooding the market. This is hardly an impressive feat. Especially when the competition that runs a vertically-integrated model with an unlicensed OS tops all the indicators that actually matter, including this:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/0...rankings-of-smartphone-consumer-satisfaction/

http://mashable.com/2011/09/09/apple-customer-satisfaction-survey/


Universal-licensing and flooding the market with all manner of flotsam and jetsam is really the poor man's path to fame.

 

[koobcamuk]

This might sound biased but I have used a lot of other devices and they just don't make the match. iOS is simply wonderful.

I've also used Androids (Xperia was my fav) as I wanted a better camera than the iPhone 3G. Then it came to sending a text message... and that to me is one single area where the iOS is years ahead. Sure, a few typos, but it is just so different to the Android typing experience.

And now the 4S has a better camera and Siri? And an A5... I am in the queue in a month...

 

[robogobo]

Well, if you throw 20 darts at a dartboard, more will stick than if you throw 3.

 

[roadbloc]

Samsung practically gives their phones away...

Interesting how they can make a profit whilst they do that.

 

[dethmaShine]

Ok. And?

Over 60 phone models. Some run Android, some run something else.

I would be the height of embarrassment if Samsung can't push all those units - from the good, to the bad, to the ugly, that are priced to match.

Samsung sells 68 Galaxy phone models (including a few tablets.)

http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php3?sQuickSearch=yes&sName=samsung+galaxy

Just filter the search to your heart's content:

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung-phones-f-9-10.php

There are certain standards of phone that Apple refuses to ship. This necessarily means that OEM box-makers who push massive volume with universally-licensed operating systems have a much easier time with flooding the market. This is hardly an impressive feat. Especially when the competition that runs a vertically-integrated model with an unlicensed OS tops all the indicators that actually matter, including this:

https://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/0...rankings-of-smartphone-consumer-satisfaction/

http://mashable.com/2011/09/09/apple-customer-satisfaction-survey/


Universal-licensing and flooding the market with all manner of flotsam and jetsam is really the poor man's path to fame.

It's their business model to make a number of phones running almost everything.

What is your problem with that? Every company doesn't share the same model as Apple and same goes for Apple.
Do you really want everyone to just buy an iPhone? People have other choices too and believe it or not, Samsung does provide more choice as compared to Apple, irrespective whether the choice is useful or is something that is meaningful to you.

They are all different and are trying to beat each other.

You're being a smug for no apparent reason. Rest your case, already.

 

[something3153]

Ok. And?

Over 60 phone models. Some run Android, some run something else.

I would be the height of embarrassment if Samsung can't push all those units - from the good, to the bad, to the ugly, that are priced to match.

I've never heard a convincing reason that offering more models invalidates sales, just a lot of herp-derping from people who've found something to latch onto.

 

[JGowan]

odd thing is they dont mention that apple sells 2 types of phones last qtr when they were doing this. samsung sells what 100 different types of phones.

Exactly. I always have to laugh at this type of perspective. If it were just Samsung's top seller vs Apple's top seller, it would be a whole lot different.

But, now Apple has the FREE iPhone 3GS and the $99 iPhone 4, combined with finally having a $399/64GB model (I got 2) and the new $99 AppleCare+ plan for accidental damage (I got 2), there will be some serious money made for Apple.

AppleCare+ is peace of mind I happily paid for. I take care of my stuff but you never know...

Another big race that I find amusing is iOS vs Android,... every phone by every player in the field vs. Apple. Yeah... that's fair. Yet somehow, there's not a big deal made of the fact that in terms of PURE PROFIT, Apple wipes the floor with everybody else.

This is pie chart is about a year old, but I wouldn't doubt if it roughly represents the current deal today...

 

[miles01110]

I've never heard a convincing reason that offering more models invalidates sales, just a lot of herp-derping from people who've found something to latch onto.

LTD is the king of finding small, inconsequential things to latch on to. He's better just ignored.

 

[wikus]

... and the OS is just as good.

But not as open.

 

[samcraig]

Exactly. I always have to laugh at this type of perspective. If it were just Samsung's top seller vs Apple's top seller, it would be a whole lot different.

But, now Apple has the FREE iPhone 3GS and the $99 iPhone 4, combined with finally having a $399/64GB model (I got 2) and the new $99 AppleCare+ plan for accidental damage (I got 2), there will be some serious money made for Apple.

AppleCare+ is peace of mind I happily paid for. I take care of my stuff but you never know...

Another big race that I find amusing is iOS vs Android,... every phone by every player in the field vs. Apple. Yeah... that's fair. Yet somehow, there's not a big deal made of the fact that in terms of PURE PROFIT, Apple wipes the floor with everybody else.

This is pie chart is about a year old, but I wouldn't doubt if it roughly represents the current deal today...

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Nice charts. I'm glad several companies can be in competition and also be profitable and that no one has a monopoly.

 

[dethmaShine]

Exactly. I always have to laugh at this type of perspective. If it were just Samsung's top seller vs Apple's top seller, it would be a whole lot different.

But, now Apple has the FREE iPhone 3GS and the $99 iPhone 4, combined with finally having a $399/64GB model (I got 2) and the new $99 AppleCare+ plan for accidental damage (I got 2), there will be some serious money made for Apple.

AppleCare+ is peace of mind I happily paid for. I take care of my stuff but you never know...

Another big race that I find amusing is iOS vs Android,... every phone by every player in the field vs. Apple. Yeah... that's fair. Yet somehow, there's not a big deal made of the fact that in terms of PURE PROFIT, Apple wipes the floor with everybody else.

This is pie chart is about a year old, but I wouldn't doubt if it roughly represents the current deal today...

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Apple's share of the industry profits(the entire Mobile Phone Industry) were close to 67% a month or two back.

 

[b11051973]

I am neutral. I have both an iPhone 4S and Samsung Focus.

 

[Qfic]

Lol. Who cares.... I don't want a Samsung phone or tablet copy. I wane the original... iPhone and iPad

With Samsung made processors

 

[chagla]

I have a Samsung Galaxy S. I consider it a cheap copy of the iPhone 3GS. Why did I buy it? US Cellular is the only provider that is reliable in my area. If they carried the iPhone I'd own a 3GS and telling my wife I want the iPhone 4s for Xmas. Bet a lot of people are in the same boat.

just to clarify, are you saying android is a copy of ios? care to elaborate please?

 

[840quadra]

Yeah - but opinions coming from MR posters are going to be the exact same whether rumor or fact. I can pretty much guarantee there will be little different between that thread and this one. Want to take bets?

So far I am seeing the same core group of iPhone supporters, going at the same core group of people that Dislike the iPhone. The same dead horse that has long since been obliterated, is again being beaten.

I think we are caught in one of those Star Trek Temporal causality loops.

 

[sciwizam]

Ok. And?


Universal-licensing and flooding the market with all manner of flotsam and jetsam is really the poor man's path to fame.

Samsung's profit for its mobile phone division went from $1.05 billion USD in Q3 '10 to $2.3 billion USD in Q3 '11.

http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsamsu...erence_eng.pdf

If that's a poor man's path to fame, I wanna be that poor man.

 

[Karnivore]

Guess not many people here know that buying Apple products helps to support Samsung. To say something like "I hope Samsung fails" is akin to cutting a branch you're sitting on.

 

[GWagon]

Well, if you throw 20 darts at a dartboard, more will stick than if you throw 3.

If I give you a choice of 20 phones, all of which most people in this forum say are inferior to another selection of 3 phones, which would YOU choose? IF it is true that the iPhone is better than everyone of the other phones, then surely you would see more people opting for it regardless of how many other "inferior" phones are out there.

Anyway, I would love to see the sales figures of the iPhone 4 to the Galaxy S2 in the same time frame.

 

[scottwaugh]

Wow, that's really striking.

So Samsung basically quadrupled their phone shipments from a year ago and also boosted their profits significantly for their phone arm - obviously they aren't just giving their phones away.

Besides Android aren't they a vendor for WP and some other (their own) smart phone OS?

This won't affect iPhone sales, IMHO, but they are definitely the other big dog in the smart phone vendor category. If Samsung can keep shipments up like that it would seem tough for Apple to take that #1 slot back.

It'll be interesting for the 4th quarter for Apple on sales - all the AT&T stores I've talked to have been back ordered for 4S's and also for 3GS's. If Apple can keep up with demand for the 3GS they'll sell a ton.

 

[superpalmtree]

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I'm sure Kia sold tons of cars too this quarter but I'll take the Cadillac...

I love how people always equate every other brand other then Apple to be piles of junk. Comments like that are why I'm embarrassed and literally hide the fact I use products.

 

[gorgeousninja]

It is funny how Apple fanboys boast about profit margins when they are the ones getting milked. I don't think I've met more foolish, naive people in my life.

That's funny cos only today I was reading an article on os upgrades for android compared to iOS, which statistically showed how all android manufacturers are only interested in making their users experiance as awfui as possible in a bid to make them upgrade.

In their words 'Android makers want their customers to upgrade cos they hate their current phones, whereas Apple wants their customers to upgrade cos they love their current phones'

Seems like the really naive and foolish people are not the ones buying Apple.