Or maybe people have biases? Are subjective, even when they think they aren't, and double down on the wrong answer when shown proof otherwise?
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Samsung Galaxy 10.1 copies the iPad...and blows it away!
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Probably for the same silly reason that some people mistakenly claim that only technical types buy Android devices.
?? Netflix works great on the original Incredible I have around.
Pretty funny, especially the period remark. I can taste one and enjoy it, without having to try the other. I can also glance at the other and see that it's rancid.
It's on the list.
http://news.cnet.com/netflix-streaming-now-on-a-few-android-phones/8301-17938_105-20062392-1.html
Some business may be adopting it, but if you compare which business primarily uses an ipad versus a real computer I'm sure the ipad amount would be a tiny tiny tiny fraction of almost nothing. The ipad is certainly not replacing the computer in the business world anytime soon. As for Android being dead in 3 years, sorry I just have to LOL at that one, but I suppose we will revisit that in 3 years. I'm sure a couple of years ago the guys who were saying Android would be dead in 2 years are wondering how it surpassed iOS in the smartphone market. You can stick your head in the sand, but the world around you isn't going to stop just because you refuse to see it.
As for consumption device, it IS a consumption device. Sure you can create some things on it, but do you see any truly viable office products on it? Graphics products? etc etc. Sure you can hook up a bluetooth keyboard and do a lot of stuff with that, but the UI and input methods still don't come close to the same functionality of a computer, not yet and maybe not ever since Apple needs to tread lightly if it doesn't want to cannibalize its own imac/macbook sales.
The majority of consumers who purchase an ipad are consumers who are not employed in a technical computing field. That's not to say they aren't intelligent or technical in their own field, it's just that most of them aren't involved in a career that is heavy into computers or electronics. This isn't anything more than a demographical statement and you shouldn't take offense to it. The same can most probably be said about PC purchases, mac purchases, etc etc.
This is a valid point. The issue is that the phones need Gingerbread in order to run Netflix, and we are running afoul of one of the things that Android is doing VERY wrong. The one thing I love about iOS is that when there is an update, everyone gets it and gets it immediately. Google really needs to take a cue from Microsoft, if Windows gets an update everyone gets it regardless of what hardware they are on. Android needs to be the same way or it is going to hurt them. My Captivate just got 2.2 a couple of months ago and they just announced it will be getting 2.3, but who knows when it will actually update.
Part of the issue are these custom UI's the manufacturers are putting on their particular phones, this is a huge mistake and is fragmenting the market. Just like when you install windows everyone gets the same experience, Android should be the same. There is no reason not to use Google's stock interface, it's actually very nice. I'll bet most of you have experimented with 2.2 which is just ok but a bit clunky, they really made some nice improvements with gingerbread 2.3, and when it's unified with honeycomb it will be really slick. But all that positive will be lost as the manufacturers continue to force their UI's on us.
Um.....no.
I am in the IT field. As I was leaving my last job, our mobile on-call techs were starting to use iPads to remote into clients' Linux servers and fix issues or do maintenance. My current company is working on incorporating them into the workflow of our traveling salespeople as well as making them usable with the software we create. At lunch, you'll see lots of people (including myself) reading or watching shows/movies on their personal iPads. And we are getting calls from our users every day wanting to know when we're going to get with the program and be fully iPad compatible.
I am a techie. I work for and with other techies. My company produces software for other techies. All anyone is talking about right now is the iPad.
Offering my opinion is not the same as me acting as an authority on something.
As for the iPad / Android comment, you are correct, they both have things about them that are great.
The UI on iOS does NOT suck the big one. It has flaws, but overall delights the target audience in ways that set in motion a revolution in the industry. Things that suck do not get that kind of reaction. Just tone down the hyperbole and you won't get as many arguments.
I have also used both, I have an Android phone. It is the most worthless OS I have ever experienced. That is unless you want your phone to randomly jump time zones, change ring volume without any user input, (from silent to vibrate to loud) and run batteries dead in less then 24 hours. All this and still there has not been a single update, and the techs tell me, it is not a real problem and I simply need to get use to it.
Yes I have replaced the phone, and it still has issues. When I query the techs and research the problem on the Internet I find that nearly 100% the phones of this model have had this problem for over a year.
This is why Android sucks, they do not fix known issues ever...... It is a throw away device with a through away OS. Nothing more than an expensive toy.
I cannot wait until the iphone comes to my cell carrier.
Yep, and I am willing to wager some serious scratch that some of your clients don't allow remoting in with Android devices because of the secruity flaws with Android.
That's interesting.
I've had none of those problems on any of the 4 Android phones I've owned.
And if you're expecting an iPhone to last longer than 24 hour, I suggest you read up on user experiences by Googling "iPhone battery life".
Realworld usage seems to be quite different domain Apples claims.
I've had none of those problems on any of the 4 iPhones I've owned.
Realworld usage seems to be quite different from your claims.
You're absolutely correct. In fact, there are some internal company sites that you can't access with an Android device because of security. (sites with internal information, PTO request forms, basically things you would use for work but may want to access from something other than a company PC.)
Uhh.. what? Would you be more specific? Not allowed to be remoting in because Android has security flaws? What security flaws? How does that affect remotely logging in?
I support sites covered by PCI-DSS and HIPAA, and login fine with both Android and iPad.
It's about remote control app on a device, not the device itself.
Android devices have more or less been banned from logging into anything at my current company. (Not sure who makes those decisions, but that's what our internal IT people have decided.)
At my last company, iPhones and iPads were allowed to log in and use the wireless network, but not Android stuff. And at that company the IT guys were all huge Android fans.
If I ran the company I would fire all the guys who made such a ridiculous decision - if the alleged security flaws in the client can pwn your corporate infrastructure - then the bigger wrong here is with the corporate infrastructure security, not with the client. I am sure your clients all use Windows though to connect to that same precious wireless network
[Which is not to say Android has or hasn't got security flaws - that's irrelevant. Every piece of software has security flaws. And Android platform security is no worse than iPhone's. ]
That is very weird. Could be high management's hissy fit or something. Androids may be able to run network auditing/security utilities, mostly because they are available for platform, while iOS has none of that. I am talking about tcpdump programs, like Shark. Think Wireshark but for Android.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/shark-for-root/lv.n3o.shark
But for remote support and for logging in, any IT admin would want to secure resources with encryption. I use 2 factor authentication for my remote access apps, with encrypted data.
I too am in IT as a content creator for a large appliance corporation and Android hasn't even come up on the radar as far as platform development. This, given the Android @ Home concept shown at Google I/O. We are still focusing on the iPad primarily because of the simple fact that the large part of our user base are sales reps, and many of them are non-tech and need something simple and the iOS interface/ecosystem is still easiest for them to use. I see iPad's every day, in the boardroom, conference calls, entertainment, etc.
I like Android and use an Inspire 4G. That said, I am not allowed to get any of my work email or communicate with any of my coworkers from my Android phone due to security reasons.
Very nice, very detailed review by Engadget of this new Samsung tablet here:
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-limited-edition-review/
Must say, it looks very nice indeed.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/17/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1-limited-edition-review/
Must say, it looks very nice indeed.
So you are saying that the MAJORITY of the business world has eschewed their computers in favor of ipads? That is specifically what I am refuting, I'm not in any way saying that SOME businesses are indeed incorporating the ipad, but it's still a tiny percentage of the entire computer world.