Samsung Profits Tumble as Apple Enters Large-Screen Phone Market and Low-End Options Thrive

[SmileyBlast!]

HTC innovate. Motorola innovate. Samsung copy, teardown their competitors' products, and market them at a cheaper price. The competitors sue, Samsung counter-sue to increase the length of the court case, and by the time they need to pay a settlement they've made so much profit from the products that the settlement is absolutely inconsequential.

They've done it with vacuum cleaners (Dyson), photography (Kodak), television (Sharp), and phones (Apple).

Not to mention they've got a class action lawsuit against their fridges and washing machines.

That's why myself and others are more than happy to see Samsung fail.

I heard about the trouble with Samsung Fridges. My friend said he did not get 3 good years from it. He said it was falling apart with Shelving that no longer worked and poor seal quality. He hates it.

I hear Samsung also makes Bridges. They should be marked with Hazard "Use at your own risk" Signs.

 

[chabig]

Oh really? Perhaps you aren't aware of the years of R&D, building out the cellular infrastructure, and all the patents that Samsung has that enabled our iPhones to work.

We'd have all the same cellular technology without Samsung. Sure, they contributed, but others were working on the same stuff.

 

[leroypants]

I'm amused at the rage of the Apple users in this thread. Kool aid, cults, sheep, It's amusing how angry they are

 

[cocky jeremy]

Samsung will never stop making phones, just to spite you.

But honestly, without Samsung, you wouldn't have the iPhone as it is today. For the longest time, Samsung built over 50% of the parts inside the iPhone, and Apple depended on them.

Count your blessings.

Apple would use someone else.. as they're starting to do now. Samsung will make phones until it no longer makes financial sense. That looks closer now than before. Even once they stop making profits they'll work a while to try to reverse it. It will happen though. Then people will actually buy decent Android phones instead of marketed junk.

 

[SirLance99]

We'd have all the same cellular technology without Samsung. Sure, they contributed, but others were working on the same stuff.

The same can be said of the iPhone.

We'd have all the same phones today without Apple. Sure, they contributed, but others were working on the same stuff.

 

[Popeye206]

samesung problem is not apple? THEN WHY THEY ONLY ATTACKING apple?

Wish I knew…. the only thing I can think of is they are making a strategic mistake, or by going after Apple, they are trying to position themselves as the premium manufacture in the market. But doesn't look like that's panning out to well for them overall.

 

[Korican100]

I'm amused at the rage of the Apple users in this thread. Kool aid, cults, sheep, It's amusing how angry they are

what Rage? we are all celebrating Apple's victory over Lamesung.

 

[Makosuke]

HTC innovate. Motorola innovate. Samsung copy, teardown their competitors' products, and market them at a cheaper price. The competitors sue, Samsung counter-sue to increase the length of the court case, and by the time they need to pay a settlement they've made so much profit from the products that the settlement is absolutely inconsequential.

They've done it with vacuum cleaners (Dyson), photography (Kodak), television (Sharp), and phones (Apple).

Not to mention they've got a class action lawsuit against their fridges and washing machines.

That's why myself and others are more than happy to see Samsung fail.

This exactly. I'm glad to see healthy competition in the mobile space. Everyone benefits from it. Heck, I want to see HTC or Motorola produce quality products, even if I never buy one, since it will provide a constant push for Apple to innovate farther and faster.

The problem at least some of us have with Samsung isn't that they're an Android handset maker, or even that they're a successful one, it's that they have a long history of questionable business practices and outright, flagrantly illegal behavior (kickbacks, bribery, intellectual property theft), both as a company and by individual managers in top positions.

I mean, heck, their CEO would literally just now be getting out of prison after an extended stint if he hadn't been personally pardoned by the President of South Korea because his company accounts for something like a quarter of the country's GDP.

 

[JeffDM]

Again, why jump on a headline for something it doesn't say.

In my opinion, it implies it. I think it's unfortunate that two Apple fan sites do this kind of headline writing regularly, and I never really see it elsewhere. Maybe the Register, which has similarly low grade writing these days too.

Plagiarism? You mean how Apple just started making bigger phones like Samsung did years before them?

Did Samsung invent the idea of making an object bigger?

 

[appleii.c]

Hmm, why does the iPhone 6 Plus look so familiar? Oh, that's right...

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You know why it looks so familiar? Because it looks like every other iPhone that's been out, only a little bigger.

 

[512ke]

I'm amused at the rage of the Apple users in this thread. Kool aid, cults, sheep, It's amusing how angry they are

I'm amused at how Samsung's profits are down 60%. They were already on the decline even before the 6 came out.

Samsung, the great mighty company, the company that mocked Apple, the company that ridiculed Apple users, is getting kicked in the ***s.

Samsung doubled over grasping its ***s due in large part to Apple (and also more efficient/better low end competitors in China).

Now that's fracking amusing.

 

[appleii.c]

Did Samsung invent the idea of making something bigger?

Not sure... are you talking Failures? If so, then yes


(joke)

 

[stasha]

At least the Chinese mob is not taking all the line queue spots to buy the phones for cash and then sell them in the streets...

that said none want samesung

 

[spatlese44]

With the current strategy of using last year's phone as the cheap option, what's going to happen next year? Somehow I see a continued market for a smaller (and possibly cheaper) phone, but a year from now the 5S/5C are going to be two years old. ?? = 7C or a new 6C?

2014

LARGE PHONES
iPhone 6
iPhone 6 Plus

SMALL PHONES
iPhone 5S
iPhone 5C

2015

LARGE PHONES
iPhone 7
iPhone 7 Plus

SMALL PHONES
iPhone ??
iPhone ??

 

[ck3801]

Every time I hear windows phone I think of this

 

[Max(IT)]

Uh uh.... Samsung fans in full defence mode

 

[Mashurrab]

1 in 10. iPhone to every Android Device as of (August 2014).

How will Apple, Inc. ever win the sheer quantities game?

They don't.

They want to win the high end all profit game though.

 

[Max(IT)]

The Samsung galaxy alpha seems to be a step on the right path though.

Do you mean on the right path for continuing to lose profits? I agree

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I predict this thread to top 200 pages. The Apple faithful will love this.

And the galaxy apologists will came in forces....

 

[bbplayer5]

Plastic will never compete with high build quality. Ever. The iPhone is a statement, the Samsung phones are toys.

 

[smeagol]

I could be wrong, but it's starting to feel like the smartphone market has grown very stale and stagnant. As if manufacturers have thrown everything they can think of into phones at this point and don't know what the next major feature is. I think everybody's profits are going to take a dip in the coming years.

I will concede that innovation has slowed a bit, but I wouldn't go as far as saying the smartphone market is stagnant. There is only so much you can fit into a small metal/plastic rectangle. Nowadays we are getting refinement and smaller improvements which is what happens in all maturing markets.

The innovation I'm waiting for is in battery technology. If smartphones could last for 4-5 days on a single charge would beat any feature set imho. As for your point on profits, I disagree. Smartphones are not like TVs, most people replace them every 2-3 years which is a lot more often than they do with TVs which is why profits will be fine for the foreseeable future.

 

[thekeyring]

With the current strategy of using last year's phone as the cheap option, what's going to happen next year? Somehow I see a continued market for a smaller (and possibly cheaper) phone, but a year from now the 5S/5C are going to be two years old. ?? = 7C or a new 6C

Either 6C, 6S and 6S Plus (with C being 4 inch) or 4.7 will be the smallest size with smaller phones being a niche.

 

[samcraig]

We'd have all the same cellular technology without Samsung. Sure, they contributed, but others were working on the same stuff.

The same can be said of the iPhone.

We'd have all the same phones today without Apple. Sure, they contributed, but others were working on the same stuff.

LOL - EXACTLY!!

p.s. Apple has how many FRAND patents? That tells you something right there.

 

[Jett0516]

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[thebrobrah]

its sad that fanboys would rather support apple over their own consumer rights

 

[k995]

So much hate for samsung that makes no sense at all.

As ever I cant understand how people can become so attached to a brand and hate another brand that acts virtually in the same way as the first .