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This fits the pattern.

1) Apple does a thing
2) Competitors mock it
3) Competitors copy it
4) [extra credit] Competitors erase evidence of (2)

Didn't apple mock or a least not understand the need/desire for a larger screen size on their phones, but now the Plus models make up a majority of their sales.... so yea
 
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I find it funny how the adjective quietly gets added to sentences about corporations doing things. It’s nonsense meant to convey something bad or sinister or covert in the most straightforward decisions. Corporations are always “quietly” making changes. Yesterday, I quietly edited a post I made in Macrumors. I then quietly edited an email with some details I have gotten wrong. I quietly told my wife I had been wrong about that one thing. Hilarious and repetitive abuse of the language.

I think you have quietly written the best post in the thread.
 
Didn't apple mock or a least not understand the need/desire for a larger screen size on their phones, but now the Plus models make up a majority of their sales.... so yea

I’d ask you to provide an example of Apple mocking larger screens, but you backpedaled mid-post, so I guess we’re done
 
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Apple sold millions of AirPods after they ditched the headphone jack, now Samsung has its own set of wireless earbuds. Case closed.
 
Whats the big deal with having the headphone jack removed from the iPhone? They give you a dongle. So what's the issue? I think people just like to complain for the sake of complaining. It's one less hole that gets filled with crap. More space for more tech/battery/whatever.

I have several dongles and AirPods. So I really don't care.
 
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What other way is there to delete a video from a Youtube channel except "quietly"? Do you need a press release or something?

Whats the big deal with having the headphone jack removed from the iPhone? They give you a dongle. So what's the issue? I think people just like to complain for the sake of complaining. It's one less hole that gets filled with crap. More space for more tech/battery/whatever.
It's a big deal in a surprising number of use cases. For example, you can't charge your phone and listen to music unless your car has bluetooth.
 
Whats the big deal with having the headphone jack removed from the iPhone? They give you a dongle. So what's the issue? I think people just like to complain for the sake of complaining. It's one less hole that gets filled with crap. More space for more tech/battery/whatever.

I have several dongles and AirPods. So I really don't care.
People complain because it’s Apple.
Many other Android phones ditch the headphone jack (and a few before Apple did), and some of them didn’t even bother including a dongle or a USB-C earbud. But their brands are not that huge SEO keyword compared to Apple.
 
This is why making fun of other companies is silly. There's only so much innovation to be done, inevitably your product will end up being very similar to that of the competitor you just made fun of.
And this goes both ways. Apple has long lauded themselves about never intercepting your private information, yet they're currently being sued for listening to Siri requests. In the end these companies are all the same :rolleyes:
 
Because your subjective opinion of the decisions don't square with reality. Plenty of people complained when cars replaced horses as well.

In what way is a horse like a headphone jack with regards to it’s removal from a common chassis? And even if you could get there, how is the removal of the Jack (horse) like a car?
 
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This fits the pattern.

1) Apple does a thing
2) Competitors mock it
3) Competitors copy it
4) [extra credit] Competitors erase evidence of (2)

Welcome to business 101.

1) Apple does a thing
2) Media reacts in the opposite way
3) Competitors take advantage of it
4) Time goes on
5) Technology changes
6) Competitors implement the same thing.
 
Par for the course with all companies. Make fun of a feature (well feature is a stretch for removing something) when you're not shipping it.

Apple went after Samsung and the other phones with large displays when it came out with the iPhone 5:


Then it saw where the trend was going and gave up on one-handed ergonomic use just like Samsung gave up on the headphone port.
 
Nobody asked to have the headphone jack removed, so why are Apple, Samsung and everyone else doing it?

The way you've worded that, makes it look like a softer, more velvety blow to Samsung's supposed anti-Apple 'street cred'. As though Samsung didn't ultimately copy Apple's move. Doesn't fit your narrative? ;)
 
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I always thought Samsung got that commercial wrong. I thought the iPhone guy should have been using wireless headphones walking around the house or cooking supper while his iPhone was somewhere else on a charger. the Samsung girl should have been listening to music with one wire plugged into her phone for power and one for her wired earphones, and sitting on the couch because .....wires.

At least it was better than the creepy Samsung stalker commercials
 
It's still beyond me why these companies choose to copycat even the worst of Apple's decisions :(

Perhaps it wasn’t such a bad decision, after all.
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"Who wants a stylus?"

One of the most misunderstood technology quotes. If you’re referring to the Apple Pencil, it has exactly nothing to do with what Jobs wanted to say. Context is king.
 
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Can we please stop with the floppy removal as a point of comparison and justification for the removal of the headphone jack??

It's just not a VALID comparison. The floppy was REPLACED with something better. The audio jack is ubiquitous in almost ALL audio devices out TODAY still. It will NOT go away because wireless audio is neither better nor more reliable. So it's not that the tech is old. If you're in any way in the music industry then guess what? You're NOT going wireless.

Now that said, us wired-headphone fans really do have to let it go.

It definitely ain't coming back on phones, because Apple is the test bed for what the industry can get away with. Not having the port not only saves the company money, but it passes the cost of having it to us by way of a dongle or wireless headphone sale, so no matter what THEY win.

However, cheap(er) wireless headphones are becoming more available, and new cars are getting Android Auto and CarPlay more and more, so that mitigates things a bit.

I think Samsung is the loser here, because a major differentiation point has been removed by them. Long-term Sammy users like me lost a major reason to stick with them, because now listening to music in my (older, non-BT) car or while exercising is JUST as inconvenient as an iPhone. And I'm a Mac user, so the pendulum now swings towards iOS because of the integration factor.
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Because your subjective opinion of the decisions don't square with reality. Plenty of people complained when cars replaced horses as well.

But cars didn't replace horses completely. When you NEED a horse, only that will do.

Imagine a world where Apple stopped making MacBooks and ONLY offered iPads. And imagine that they did that THIS October.

Plenty of people here would be HAPPY and OK with that though, so maybe I'm romanticizing dry land to fish in a fishbowl.
 
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Perhaps it wasn’t such a bad decision, after all.
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One of the most misunderstood technology quotes. If you’re referring to the Apple Pencil, it has exactly nothing to do with what Jobs wanted to say. Context is king.

Okay then. "You can't get your hand around it" "No one's going to buy that."
 
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