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Well i was going purely off memory and everyone here seems to loose their mind if things aren't 100% accurate, hence why I said that...

Here you go, this is what I was referring to

https://www.engadget.com/2010/07/16/jobs-no-ones-going-to-buy-a-big-phone/

That’s not an Apple commercial, just Steve Jobs talking in a discussion panel. I see what you’re getting at, but it’s an important distinction. That was back in 2010, when iPhones had 3.5” screens, and “big” Android devices had 4-5” screens. Here I am with my relatively small iPhone X with a 5.8” screen!

Interesting tidbit: Apple didn’t release an iPhone Plus until 3 years after Steve Jobs died.
 
Apple's done something like this a time or two as well.. Remember this?


That Apple commercial isn’t mocking anyone. It’s explaining that the size of the display is designed to perfectly accommodate the average reach of a users thumb while holding the iPhone. That was way back in 2012 when the iPhone had a new larger 4” screen! The demand for larger screens ultimately trumped one handed use concerns, as people shifted to using their phones with both hands.

Incidentally, the iPhone SE has the same size 4” screen as in this ad explaining that it’s the ideal size for one handed use. Maybe that’s why the SE had such a loyal following?
 
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That’s not an Apple commercial, just Steve Jobs talking in a discussion panel. I see what you’re getting at, but it’s an important distinction. That was back in 2010, when iPhones had 3.5” screens, and “big” Android devices had 4-5” screens. Here I am with my relatively small iPhone X with a 5.8” screen!

Interesting tidbit: Apple didn’t release an iPhone Plus until 3 years after Steve Jobs died.

I never mentioned anything about a commercial, I said "Apple mocked or at least...." and it turns out it came directly from Steve jobs, which means that quote circulated on media outlets more than what their commercials say.

I just love it that when Apple does stuff first, fanboys says "Ohh they copied". But when Apple is late to the party they say "well they wanted to get the feature perfect". Every industry looks as what their competitors are doing and either follow suit, wait, or try to come up with something better.
 
Samsung is a few steps closer to being as stupid as Apple. In addition to removing 3.5mm audio jack and SD card slot on Galaxy Note 10, downgrade DRAM from 8GB to 3GB, OLED to LCD, hole to wide notch, remove pen, remove DeX, remove split screen multitasking, increase bluetooth latency from ~50ms to ~250ms, dumb down the OS, remove the freedom of using apps like Kodi/emulators/torrent clients, cheapen the build quality, use inferior Intel radio instead of Qualcomm, etc. and you have an $899 iPhone Xr 256GB.
 
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They finally built up the COURAGE.

At least with their prices, their launching with GalaxyBuds on pre-orders is wish Apple did that with AirPods on XS/Max launch or the upcoming iPhone. Would be showing love to customers. Now look at the global subsidy upgrades will get from carriers. Apple take a page please!
 
I never mentioned anything about a commercial, I said "Apple mocked or at least...." and it turns out it came directly from Steve jobs, which means that quote circulated on media outlets more than what their commercials say.

I just love it that when Apple does stuff first, fanboys says "Ohh they copied". But when Apple is late to the party they say "well they wanted to get the feature perfect". Every industry looks as what their competitors are doing and either follow suit, wait, or try to come up with something better.

So this started with my comment about the pattern of Apple’s competitors mocking Apple for things they then copy. In this particular instance, it was a commercial by Samsung, which Samsung then deleted from their YouTube channel. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

You and I have gotten a bit lost in the woods over this Steve Jobs remark during a press conference in 2010. I respectfully think it’s a stretch to get it to fit this story, but I appreciate that you brought it up. Since 2010 3.5” screens, iPhone screens have steadily increased along with consumer demand. I don’t recall that Apple claimed that anything bigger than a 3.5” screen was to be mocked. In 2012 they put out a commercial suggesting that a 4” screen was ideal for one handed use, as they released the iPhone 5 with a 4” screen. The iPhone 6 had a 4.7” screen, which reviewers pointed out was a bit too big for one handed use for many users. The iPhone 6 Plus was clearly for two handed use, Steve was probably turning in his grave, ha!

Please refrain from using language like “fanboy” when posting. These are divisive times enough.
 
Honestly, I couldn’t care less about the headphone jack.

Yeah, I cared until about a year ago, then did away with wired headphones altogether. It's the natural progression of things. Apple was a little early, but was going in the right direction.
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Samsung is a few steps closer to being as stupid as Apple. In addition to removing 3.5mm audio jack and SD card slot on Galaxy Note 10, downgrade DRAM from 8GB to 3GB, OLED to LCD, hole to wide notch, remove pen, remove DeX, remove split screen multitasking, increase bluetooth latency from ~50ms to ~250ms, dumb down the OS, remove the freedom of using apps like Kodi/emulators/torrent clients, cheapen the build quality, use inferior Intel radio instead of Qualcomm, etc. and you have an $899 iPhone Xr 256GB.


Some people just want a cheaper phone and could not care less about all the bells and whistles. Not sure there is anything "dumb" about making a range of phones that suits different budgets and technology needs.
 
Nobody asked to have the headphone jack removed, so why are Apple, Samsung and everyone else doing it?

That started with the notion that Steve Jobs knew what you really wanted better than you did so Apple ignored most or all helpful feedback and chose the path of take it or shove off already. Sadly, things like SMB still don't work right on the Mac and no amount of complaints can't make Apple fix those things (or just as likely, they are incapable of fixing them). Apple simply doesn't care and so long as the kool aid brigade keeps buying their crap at breakneck speeds (working right or not), nothing will ever change at Apple.

The 3.5mm was invented in the 1950s. What almost 70 year old tech do we still use?

You seem to lack perspective (I'm guessing age gap). We use lots of "old tech" (your 120V outlets being a prime example in your house). You don't just throw crap out "just because". Refrigerators, air conditioners, lighters, drills, air compressors, etc. etc. haven't changed much because there's nothing wrong with them. Bluetooth still can't even manage 1982 compact disc level signals without compression and you're whining about "old" technology. If you don't even understand the technology from then, how can you possibly judge it today?
 
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Apple sold millions of AirPods after they ditched the headphone jack, now Samsung has its own set of wireless earbuds. Case closed.

Case re-opened. Samsung doesn’t just have wireless earbuds now, they’ve been selling them since at least 2016.

So why again has Samsung removed the headphone jack?


Because Samsung now sells wireless buds too. No other reason really.

Any other reason, actually. Try harder.
 
Case re-opened. Samsung doesn’t just have wireless earbuds now, they’ve been selling them since at least 2016.

So why again has Samsung removed the headphone jack?




Any other reason, actually. Try harder.

Okay, the Galaxy Buds weren’t their first try at wireless buds. But how well did they all sell? My point is; removing the headphone jack is good for sales of those Buds.

You have a better theory I presume? I find their decision to remove it quite baffling considering their previous arguments for keeping it.
 
Okay, the Galaxy Buds weren’t their first try at wireless buds. But how well did they all sell? My point is; removing the headphone jack is good for sales of those Buds.

You have a better theory I presume? I find their decision to remove it quite baffling considering their previous arguments for keeping it.
Who knows why they removed it? Why does Samsung do anything they do?

Why did they release a $2,000 folding tablet to the press with hinges that were open to debris and the screen covered by plastic film (that looked like it should be peeled off) glued on top of it?

I’m not a Samsungologist, but if I had to guess I’d say they probably realized most people didn’t care if it went away, the jack was in the way of a smaller-bezeled screen and/or the limited space is better spent on things like battery ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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Go ahead and name a few then. Because it doesn’t look like you’re trying at all.
Well I did name a few, without trying very hard. However, I’m under no obligation to supply you with viable alternate theories once yours is debunked.

But I do know that Samsung removing it lends exactly zero support to the narrative of the Apple-hate crowd for why Apple removed it, i.e. to push AirPods.
 
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But I do know that Samsung removing it lends exactly zero support to the narrative of the Apple-hate crowd for why Apple removed it, i.e. to push AirPods.

The argument that Apple removed it to sell AirPods and not because of space issues is easily proven wrong by the fact that the desktops/laptops still have a 3.5 jack.
 
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The argument that Apple removed it to sell AirPods and not because of space issues is easily proven wrong by the fact that the desktops/laptops still have a 3.5 jack.

Space issues... https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/07/iphone-7-modded-headphone-jack/

Lol!

Samsung said the battery capacity was increased by 2-3 percent, which is not a real argument at all.

It’s all marketing and sales, not an engineering problem.
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Who knows why they removed it? Why does Samsung do anything they do?

Why did they release a $2,000 folding tablet to the press with hinges that were open to debris and the screen covered by plastic film (that looked like it should be peeled off) glued on top of it?

I’m not a Samsungologist, but if I had to guess I’d say they probably realized most people didn’t care if it went away, the jack was in the way of a smaller-bezeled screen and/or the limited space is better spent on things like battery ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You don’t have to be a Samsungologist to know that it’s all about money.
 
Samsung should have left them be.. It would have been a good laugh.. I don't like when companies just remove ads for their own reasons (almost as if they somehow felt bad for what they did)

Its mocking the "THEN" Samsung and Apple phone,.. at the time. not to do with the future of what's to come.

Samsung obviously thinks it does....
You don’t have to be a Samsungologist to know that it’s all about money.

That anything like a cosmologist??,, cos it sounds like a good name.
 
Space issues... https://www.macrumors.com/2017/09/07/iphone-7-modded-headphone-jack/

Lol!

Samsung said the battery capacity was increased by 2-3 percent, which is not a real argument at all.

It’s all marketing and sales, not an engineering problem.
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You don’t have to be a Samsungologist to know that it’s all about money.
No one said the iPhone 7 couldn’t have been made with a headphone jack; cellphones had always had headphone jacks and obviously even the XS and next month’s iPhone 11 could have a headphone jack if Apple wanted to provide one. But what happens when the entire bottom bezel disappears? Without the large bottom bezel, how does the headphone jack occupy the same space as the folded OLED display and display controller?

The point is that Apple decided the future was wireless, and they used the courage Samsung lacked to deliberately drive the industry (and customers) to wireless earphones—kicking and screaming if necessary. There’s no doubt that the headphone jack occupies space that can be used by other components. In an iPhone, space is at a premium.

Instead of looking at the facts and drawing a conclusion, you started with your conclusion and ignore facts that don’t fit. If “it’s all about money”, how do you explain the fact that Apple has supplied 100+ million free Lightning headphone adapters so that customers wouldn’t have to buy AirPods? Are they just stupid? Why wouldn’t Apple drop the jack from laptops? Desktops? 100+ million iPads sold during the last three years?

Apple thinks wireless earphones provide a better experience than corded headphones. They think Bluetooth is better than a cord for an in-car scenario. And with a Bluetooth speaker. It’s really that simple. No conspiracy theories necessary.
 
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