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Samsung Rethinking Galaxy Tab 10.1 After iPad 2 Unveiling

lilo777 said:
Steve was wrong anyway you look at it. Just check availability of XOOM in Best Buy stores in San Francisco. It's sold out in 4 out of 6 stores. Same story for Boston (4/6). It's sold out in all 6 stores in Portland, OR. SO, it's quite a volume. Besides, if we accept the definition of volume as "in iPad-type volume" this would make the whole Steve point moot because then he would also be able to claim that Apple is the first company to ship "in volume" tablets with screens or CPUs or GPUs or... whatever part you want to claim.

But I could give him a slack. After all he is salesman, not an engineer :D
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Here (Michigan) too most BestBuy stores are out of Xoom. I had to wait and travel 50 miles to get one of the last 2 that were remaining in that store. Same story at Amazon wireless.

I wouldn't miss the iPad 2 - it's that good. There are few 1.0 instabilities and there is still a month to pass before SD Card and Flash is enabled - but great experience none the less. Oh and HDMI is built in - no dongles required and the battery charges faster than anything I had seen earlier.
 
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Tones2 said:
But like I said, what's better is opinion. But just don't say it's cheaper, because it's not, and that was my main point.
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In a volume business, pricing is mostly about the average MSRP. Given how many $499 models Apple probably sells, the iPad is significantly cheaper on average for typical consumers. Especially with some number of iPad 1 refurbs currently available for $349.
 
firewood said:
In a volume business, pricing is mostly about the average MSRP. Given how many $499 models Apple probably sells, the iPad is significantly cheaper on average for typical consumers. Especially with some number of iPad 1 refurbs currently available for $349.
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But you can't compare a wifi only 16 GB device to a 3G enabled 32 GB device and say the former is cheaper. They are not comparable device configurations.

Tony
 
So the iPad2 is going to be shipped in the US the 11th, and in other 26 countries by the end of the month. I'm not aware of what other tablets are on the market just yet, and I found the only dual core tablet that is on the market at the moment is the Dell Streak 7, which I guess is out in the US and UK but I can't check what other countries have been included.


I read some link posted here, one was complaining about how Apple shows off the specs that are more convenient for them to tell, for example that the RAM was not specified. How about that ALL the other company are not saying anything about the battery life? Umm.... for example the lovely Dell Streak 7 to be about 3 and a half hours...
 
Tones2 said:
But you can't compare a wifi only 16 GB device to a 3G enabled 32 GB device and say the former is cheaper. They are not comparable device configurations.
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You certainly can if you are in business and interested in what configurations the largest fraction of consumers will actually choose to buy.
 
Tones2 said:
But you can't compare a wifi only 16 GB device to a 3G enabled 32 GB device and say the former is cheaper. They are not comparable device configurations.

Tony
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Nah, of course you can compare. They're not comparable spec-wise but they are comparable in terms of devices and how much the entry level is. Apple lets you get in on the iPad for $500 and Samsung does not offer anything for that price. So for people with that much money to spend, that's a win for Apple by default. That's a crucial comparison when considering how many each company is likely to sell.
 
firewood said:
You certainly can if you are in business and interested in what configurations the largest fraction of consumers will actually choose to buy.
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Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I thought about half of the original iPads were sold with 3G, even if only about a third of those actually got used that way.

Probably a lot of 32GB models were also sold, but never filled up.

Apparently there's still plenty of people who have the money to spend getting a top of the line model, whether they use it all or not.

If someone is a student and poor, this might not make sense to them, of course :)
 
KnightWRX said:
So much for "back to the drawing board" :

http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/201...spite-apples-ipad-2-announcement/?mod=ATD_rss

Again, Macrumors twisting facts to get a bigger "pro-Apple" spin on a story. :rolleyes:



Well, there's this little unknown called the Motorola Xoom that's barely been mentionned in about every post in this thread. :rolleyes:
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So where the Xoom has been shipped beside the US?

Apparently has been released two days ago here in UK. Sorry but other manufacturer are so confusing in giving out info in my opinion.
 
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KnightWRX said:
So much for "back to the drawing board" :

http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/201...spite-apples-ipad-2-announcement/?mod=ATD_rss
Again, Macrumors twisting facts to get a bigger "pro-Apple" spin on a story
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MR didn't actually twist anything. The story was erroneous. MR simply posted the story, which was proved to be released in error after the fact. Your story and link, if you will note, was posted today. This thread was posted yesterday. And even with the correction, it's still not a bragging point for Sumsungs's "vaporware" Galaxy (and the term is correct for announced hardware that has no release date announced or is not anticipated for months. Samsung, in your very link, declines to commit to a date, only saying "summer". That could be August or September. By that time, buzz will be building about iPad 3. Is it really that impressive that Samsung should be able to relaese an iPad competitor if they get to anaylize an iPad 2 for a few months? Literally a step behind Apple.
 
KnightWRX said:
So much for "back to the drawing board" :

http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/201...spite-apples-ipad-2-announcement/?mod=ATD_rss

Again, Macrumors twisting facts to get a bigger "pro-Apple" spin on a story. :rolleyes:



Well, there's this little unknown called the Motorola Xoom that's barely been mentionned in about every post in this thread. :rolleyes:
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How did MacRumors twist any facts? They posted a story that was reported by someone else.

In fact, I still believe the story is correct but of course no company is going to let those quotes float out there.

Engadget said this:
Samsung may have been humbled by Apple's iPad 2, but the company's apparently not letting that affect its plans -- without directly refuting statements by a Samsung VP that the upcoming Galaxy Tab 10.1 was "inadequate" or might be priced cheaper than originally intended, the company told the Yonhap News Agency that the tablet will be released on schedule.
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sangv said:
The tablet competition seems to be even tougher,
i think ipad 2 will be not as much popular as ipad becaue of lack on competitors unlke now days because we get much better tablets with high config..like XOOM and TAB
so if you are allowed to choose between ipad 2 and other tablets what would be your choice??

http://techsangv.com
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Depends on your idea of "configurable". For me configuration is about ways I can make the device serve my needs. The iPad currently doesn't even have a close rival in the 65,000 iPad specific Apps I can use, as well as a total of well over 300,000 Apps for the iOS. For now, it's the iPad, hands down.
 
notabadname said:
MR didn't actually twist anything. The story was erroneous. MR simply posted the story
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DeathChill said:
How did MacRumors twist any facts? They posted a story that was reported by someone else.
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Every other news source was reporting on the same story MR posted as "Samsung reviewing pricing on Tab 10.1". MR was the only one with ridiculous mentions of "back to the drawing board".

I commented on this very fact the first day this was posted, of course, everyone was too busy bashing lilo because he dared call out Steve Jobs' fib on Dual core tablets.
 
More ipads were sold in the first quarter of ipad sales than the number of Zoons shipped.

By the time the number of zoons sold equal the number of ipads sold in the first quarter of ipad sales, it will no longer be called the Zoon.
 
KnightWRX said:
Every other news source was reporting on the same story MR posted as "Samsung reviewing pricing on Tab 10.1". MR was the only one with ridiculous mentions of "back to the drawing board".

I commented on this very fact the first day this was posted, of course, everyone was too busy bashing lilo because he dared call out Steve Jobs' fib on Dual core tablets.
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Right in the middle of the article it says:
"We will have to improve the parts that are inadequate,"
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That sure sounds like they're doing more then reviewing the price to me.

I don't get why it's so hard for you to understand. There are no dual core tablets shipping in large quantities (volume;)) CURRENTLY. The iPad 2 will be launching in 27 countries in March, much larger than any other competitor rollout.
 
DeathChill said:
I don't get why it's so hard for you to understand. There are no dual core tablets shipping in large quantities (volume;)) CURRENTLY. The iPad 2 will be launching in 27 countries in March, much larger than any other competitor rollout.
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Read the thread again, we've covered this.

And seriously, why did all other news source cover this as "Samsung rethinking pricing" and only MR reads it as "back to the drawing board".

Some of you need to tone down the pro Apple bias a bit.
 
KnightWRX said:
Read the thread again, we've covered this.

And seriously, why did all other news source cover this as "Samsung rethinking pricing" and only MR reads it as "back to the drawing board".

Some of you need to tone down the pro Apple bias a bit.
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Looks like someone is lying on this board...

iPad 2 prompts Samsung to rethink the Galaxy Tablet



"A senior official for Samsung Electronics on Friday admitted his company would have to rethink its line of Galaxy tablets to compete with Apple's thinner, more affordable iPad 2.

"We will have to improve the parts that are inadequate," Lee Don-joo, executive vice president of Samsung's mobile division, told Yonhap News Agency. "Apple made it very thin."

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Yep. Looks like WRX is about to roll his eyes again to cover his lies that macrumors is the only site reporting this. Ok perhaps "lies" is a little harsh. Lets call it "made up stats".
 
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KnightWRX said:
Read the thread again, we've covered this.

And seriously, why did all other news source cover this as "Samsung rethinking pricing" and only MR reads it as "back to the drawing board".

Some of you need to tone down the pro Apple bias a bit.
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I frequently pick on macrumors' choice of headlines. In this case, it wasn't as big an exaggeration as they often do - a fair reading of his actual quotes do tend to give the impression that Samsung was planning on making hardware changes - it could have been a translation problem or he could have just gone off the reservation, but the inference was that whether it be price, features, specifications, or whatever, Samsung was going to have to improve things

In the end though, it's fairly moot. Samsung will sell some tablets, but it won't sell enough to matter.
 
KnightWRX said:
Read the thread again, we've covered this.

And seriously, why did all other news source cover this as "Samsung rethinking pricing" and only MR reads it as "back to the drawing board".

Some of you need to tone down the pro Apple bias a bit.
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I read the posts from you and lilo and all you did was say that volume never meant a specific number. Woo.

It's quite obvious what Apple meant when they said volume: large quantities.
 
KnightWRX said:
That's the 32 GB 3G model with a SD slot for 32 GB expansion (in other words, the equivalent to a 64 GB iPad 3G).

The Wifi version is cheaper than the iPad. At least get your facts straight.
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They better rethink that. Samsung did.
 
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