How does that help me use my camera's SD card in a Xoom? That's backwards.
Mine came with one too. I used it exactly zero times. I wish I could have bought my MBP for $5 cheaper and skipped the remote.
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How does that help me use my camera's SD card in a Xoom? That's backwards.
Mine came with one too. I used it exactly zero times. I wish I could have bought my MBP for $5 cheaper and skipped the remote.
Ah, but when they stopped shipping them, did they reduce the price by $5, or keep it the same? On the other hand, since the remote sold for $19, you could have easily flogged it for $5.
When they took it away, they didn't lower the price, did they?
The xoom allows micro sd for added storage and archiving and also has usb so that you can connect other cards from cameras and camcorders.
I'm not saying that any tablet yet has what people want but the competition from the various tablet makers is going to result in a better product for consumers and more choice.
If apple was smart, they would have built on their early success rather than dribble out underwhelming updates designed to keep people buying new hardware every year.
Beyond the touch technology, I want to see a tablet that has enough power and connectivity to do something more than play. They need some sort of file system and global 3g/4g capability not tied to any vendor.
Until that happens, tablets are just entertainment toys and people are better off with a good smart phone.
Go easy on these guys. Its hard for some of them to process the fact that a word like "volume" might have multiple meanings. They learnt that "shipping in volume" means not doing trial runs in engineering class, and now they just can't believe that it might actually also mean shipping in large quantities.
Edit: Btw, I am an engineer, and no, its not a standard phrase at all. When you are out of the test phase, and are actually selling the product, all you say is the product is "shipping". Not "shipping in volume".
Yes, they did.
And the iPad has adapters that allow the same. So? Neither of them works with SD cards out of the box.
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So basically Motorola shipped in such volumes, that Amazon ran out of stock, and the Xoom did not even crack Amazon's Top 100 in "Cellphones and Accessories" (http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/wireless/ref=zg_bsnr_tab) being beaten out by such awesome bestsellers as the Blackberry Storm.
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Heh. Heh They sold out both units they had received.
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I don't see the iPad on that list either...
Maybe Amazon just doesn't list Tablets and Cellphones together ?
EDIT : Actually, the Xoom is #8 in cellphones with service and #11 in Tablets.
http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-XOOM...VHUC/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1299435432&sr=8-1
EDIT2 : The iPad got beaten by a cheap asian clone sold for 199$ in Tablets :
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/electronics/1232597011/ref=pd_zg_hrsr_e_2_3_last
The Xoom isn't doing so bad at #11 for a device that's been on the market for 2 weeks. Some of the lenghts you guys will go to to discredit competitors is just ridiculous.
EDIT3 : Another dual core tablet shipping in volumes on that page, the Viewsonic G-Tablet. Tegra 2 is out and shipping in volumes, Steve was wrong, get over it.
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Additionally, Cell Phones with Service is a subset of the "Cellphones and Accessories" category, which when I posted, (and probably still) had an unlocked version of the Blackberry Storm at 98, but no Xoom.
Anyways, looking at 3rd party retailers for Apple products is never a good idea, because Apple sells a vast majority of their products from a single store, the Apple Store. No other retailer has a similar distribution scheme. It would almost be like looking at Kroger's to determine how many Walmart brand diet drinks were sold.
Btw, the tablet bestseller list is just ridiculous. Nearly all iPad models are ahead of the Xoom, although they are about a $100 bucks more EXPENSIVE on Amazon (since they don't seem to have enacted the $100 drop Apple has).
Whats even more hilarious is reading the comments of the #1 item, and Android based "SuperPad" for just $250 (of course, its a crappy screen, with no multitouch).
Examples include people who rate it 4/5 stars, saying stuff like "I just wanted a PDF reader. Once I got that, although it took me about 4 hours to install, it was perfect". Or rating it 5/5 stars, and then listing 7-8 major issues. There are a lot of self-hating people in this world, apparently.
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wrong
It has one port that you have to take turns using for charging, hdmi or reading cards. And you have to pay extra for the cable.
The xoom has discrete ports so that you can do all three at the same time.
And it has the micro sd port for expandable storage.
Jesus Christ, it's like you are incapable of understanding English. When Steve said volume he meant a large amount. There is not a single dual core tablet shipping in large amounts. Get over it, you're wrong.
Here's a definition for the word volume:
You can't argue with the dictionary.
Nope:
.. as the mythical Wifi Xoom isn't out yet, and we've yet to see one in the wild except for blurrycam shots and promises from Motorola execs, the iPad + cable costs less than an equivalent Xoom at the moment.
No it's not. The price went down by $100.
you are changing the subject.
He said a micro SD card is not as useful as SD because cameras generally use SD and that's what most people want to use it for.
You insulted him for not understanding that microsd cards can be used in slots, which, of course, is irrelevant.
I pointed out that it is irrelevant.
You pointed out some stuff a out USB cables
The fact is,the slot on the Xoom is useless for most everyone looking to offload a camera.
See definition A from your dictionary. That is the definition the industry uses for the phrase "Shipping in Volumes". Otherwise, the phrase means nothing if it can be redefined to mean a different volume subjectively.
And I'm not Jesus Christ, just some guy on a forum with a grasp on reality.
But it's a good idea to use them to bash competitors ?
Next time, don't bring up Amazon if you're just going to spin the very facts you've used yourself.
Steve is a genius....and he's OUR genius. Companies run based on 'committee'...particularly the japanese companies, don't stand a chance against the likes of someone like Steve and the close knit group of associates he has built. Give it up Samsung, HP, Rimm, etc. None of you stand a chance. This war is over....
But it's a good idea to use them to bash competitors ?
Competitors bash themselves with the garbage they churn out.
Yes, the first definition comes with a qualifier! "Low; considerable"
First, Steve Jobs was NOT talking to the industry; he was speaking to his customers and the media. It's quite obvious what volume meant in this usage. Secondly, addicted44 says he is an engineer and "shipping in volume" is not an industry term for when you are shipping, as that's just shipping.
There's no grasp on reality with you. It's obvious what was meant and you can deny all day long but it doesn't change a damned thing.
I'm was an engineer, too, and we just said "shipping," too. That said, despite people who keep saying "volume shipping" is an engineering term, I think they really should be saying it's a marketing term. Engineers only care about whether the product is sufficiently frozen that they can move onto the next thing.
In any event, it's clear that Steve was not using the term in the way his detractors insist he was.
He must have meant Dell, Motorola, LG, ASUS and .... oh, wait.... no... not them... ah you know what he meant: Japanese = not Apple!
But it's a good idea to use them to bash competitors ?
Next time, don't bring up Amazon if you're just going to spin the very facts you've used yourself.
But it's a good idea to use them to bash competitors ?
Next time, don't bring up Amazon if you're just going to spin the very facts you've used yourself.
Yes, it is a good idea to use them for competitors, until one of those competitors develop their own stores where they sell the majority of their devices. Apple's competitors sell the majority (all?) of their devices through 3rd party retailers and consumers are not biased towards any one of them. Because of Amazon's size, they are a fair representation.
Apple's customers are HEAVILY biased towards buying stuff from the Apple Store (or apple.com). Which makes any 3rd party analysis incomplete, at best, but more likely heavily distorted.
And finally, even if you want to use Amazon's bestseller list, 5 iPad 1 models, which are more expensive on Amazon.com (because they haven't applied the $100 credit yet) are selling better than the Xoom, despite the fact that Apple is selling a disproportionately lower amount through Amazon than other manufacturers.
If you are truly an engineer (which I have no reason to doubt) the sample bias caused by the existence of the Apple Store, and the fact that no such bias exists for other manufacturers, should not be that hard for you to grasp.
Not because they removed the remote.
Hardly. You can use the same micro sd card with the adapter in a camera and then use it directly in the xoom port. No cables required.
Other cards can be connected via usb like with the ipad, but the micro sd slot also works to expand storage in the xoom, again without cabling. Much neater solution.
All tablets should have an sd slot and a usb port for basic functionality as a computing device. They also need an open 3g that can be used anywhere with any provider without having to pay a premium or get locked into a long term contract. Form without function is a bad choice.
Let's cut to the chase. People will buy what's best for them, and there's no need for people to defend their choice by denigrating the other options, as the fanboys habitually do.
For me, no tablet is currently capable enough to work as anything more than an entertainment toy, but the xoom currently comes closest, and the open competition will lead to better products.
If apple chooses to design obsolescence into the ipad so that their customers are forced to buy a new one each year, they will lose customers.
And the only people insulting others here are the fanboys who become apoplectic whenever anyone disagrees with them.
Do you think any other tablet manufacturer has had a meaningful impact on the tablet market? Do you have numbers to back this up?
A product that's been on the market for a year outsells a product that's been on the market for 2 weeks.
See, I can spin too! Just don't get dizzy from all the spinning.
You're getting this worked up over bashing a competitor. If the product doesn't interest you, why not just move on ?
We are changing subjects because ?