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Right... but people are going to fork out extra money for the ipad's cable so that they can attach their cards via a card reader and have all that crap hanging off of what is supposed to be a mobile device.

Right, but you are making a strawman argument. All I ever said is that the xoom is no better poised for the most common use of SD - transfer of photographs off of cameras - than the iPad. You keep trying to bend over backwards to make up some reason that it isn't true.

It remains true that a micro-SD slot is useless to most photographers, and so, just like on iPad, xoom owners will have to rely on cost-added adapters.
 
Right, but you are making a strawman argument. All I ever said is that the xoom is no better poised for the most common use of SD - transfer of photographs off of cameras - than the iPad. You keep trying to bend over backwards to make up some reason that it isn't true.

It remains true that a micro-SD slot is useless to most photographers, and so, just like on iPad, xoom owners will have to rely on cost-added adapters.

But you missed my point that most SD cards sold now days are nothing more than an adaptor for a micro-SD card.
Plus the fact that adaptor is like what 1 buck compared to the 30 you have to pay for an apple one.
 
I am pretty sure you don't represent everybody.

But most people. Because the only people who've heard of those are people desperately trying to find some argument.

Face it. You're wrong. No call me a fanboy and have a nice day.
 
But you missed my point that most SD cards sold now days are nothing more than an adaptor for a micro-SD card.

Yeah, I intentionally missed it because it simply is not true. While many such devices are available, they do not constitute "most." Further, they only seem to account for the smaller capacities.

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Plus the fact that adaptor is like what 1 buck compared to the 30 you have to pay for an apple one.[/QUOTE]

The point is that those cards, particularly for higher capacity, cost more than the SD equivalent (I also don't think they are even available for the largest capacities that SD has, but I haven't done a thorough search). Most photographers also already have SD cards, so it's not $1 - it's the cost of an entirely new card they otherwise wouldn't need.
 
Unfortunately you are blinded by your own spin. I saw you arguing that Samsung wasn't rethinking their tablet also. Wrong.

I also posted evidence showing that they are still on track and not delaying their release, what with the tablet now having gone through FCC approval. As other news source stated in relation to this story, Samsung will be rethinking their pricing, which was rumored to be much more expensive than the iPad for the Tab 10.1

What evidence have you posted showing me to be wrong ?

But most people. Because the only people who've heard of those are people desperately trying to find some argument.

Or people who read gadget blogs like Engadget. If you stick to Apple news only, you'll know about Apple products only. If you read Android related news site, you won't know crap about RIM or HP stuff. If you read Engadget, you'll get a glimpse at what everyone is doing.
 

Because apparently he is in the "industry". ZZZZZZzzzzz

Probably a public relations rep for motorola. He should spend more time differentiating Motorola's dozen or more android phone models.

I also posted evidence showing that they are still on track and not delaying their release, what with the tablet now having gone through FCC approval. As other news source stated in relation to this story, Samsung will be rethinking their pricing, which was rumored to be much more expensive than the iPad for the Tab 10.1

What evidence have you posted showing me to be wrong ?

Yet they did in fact rethink it. I've sen your type before. Get caught in one lie and you change the subject. They did rethink the price. And now the CEo is saying after ipad 2 they need to rethink the design. But your spin was that Macrumors is the only place saying this. i showed you this is not the case.

You ignored it so don't go asking me to repost it.

So do you think Motorola will sell enough tablets to buy back Freescale and the other companies they spun off?
 
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But they aren't, according to All Things Digital :

http://mobilized.allthingsd.com/201...spite-apples-ipad-2-announcement/?mod=ATD_rss

Again, where is your evidence, I've shown you mine.

The hilarious part is that the evidence you're requesting is in the article you just linked to.

Samsung is clearly backtracking on what was said and there is no denial that it was said. Maybe they think they can make any necessary changes quickly or they changed their mind.
 
2011: Year of the ipad copycats.


So Far, Rivals Can’t Beat iPad’s Price
By JENNA WORTHAM
Published: March 6, 2011

"...


“There have been nearly a hundred competitive tablets that have been introduced since the iPad,” said Toni Sacconaghi, an analyst at Sanford C. Bernstein. “But it seems that no one has eclipsed or even matched Apple on pricing.”

Analysts and industry experts point to a number of reasons. Primarily, they say, Apple’s deep pockets — a staggering $60 billion in cash reserves — have allowed it to form strategic partnerships with other companies to buy large supplies of components, for example, in expensive flash memory. By doing this, the company probably secures a lower price from suppliers, ensuring a lower manufacturing cost.

At the same time, they say, Apple has sidestepped high licensing fees for other items it needs, like the A4 and A5 processors within the iPads. Those parts, designed in-house at Apple by a company that Apple bought, are among the costlier components needed to make a tablet computer.

Mr. Sacconaghi said Apple also could subsidize some of the cost of building iPads with the money it makes through its App Store, which generates more than a billion dollars each year. This means that Apple can take a lower profit margin on the iPad, 25 percent, than it does on, for example, the iPhone, which can yield as much as 50 percent profit.

Yet another advantage is Apple’s wide net of its own global retail shops and online stores; for customers, this means they can avoid a markup from a third party like Best Buy.

Although other companies have some of these factors in their favor, no one but Apple has all of them.

..."
 
Right... but people are going to fork out extra money for the ipad's cable so that they can attach their cards via a card reader and have all that crap hanging off of what is supposed to be a mobile device.

It never ceases to amaze me how fanboys will bend over backward to excuse any crap from apple then turn around and slam other manufacturers for the same thing or less.

The ipad should obviously have come with an sd slot if it wanted to keep things simple and elegant- not require a separate cable.
Maybe they'll deign to give it to you by ipad 5.
Meanwhile, once again, it will be left behind by other manufacturers who understand what customers want, and apple will remain just an overpriced niche option in a huge market.
It's a shame, because it could be so much better, but it prefers to milk its customers with equipment that needs upgrading every year.

I don't need to upgrade anything at all. Just because they release new products doesn't mean everyone must upgrade. Still use a MacBook from 6 years ago, works perfectly. I used a 1st Gen iPhone until buying the 4 three years later. My compadres had been through two or three blackberries in the same time frame. Releasing updated products doesn't require anyone to upgrade anything. My first phone is still working fine for some guy who got it from me on eBay.

Apple replaced my first Gen Apple TV free of charge just a few months ago, and it was over two years old and out of warranty. I know of no company on earth who would do such a thing.
 
RIMM will sell tablets but the market share will decline.

http://www.thestreet.com/story/11032811/1/can-motorola-mobility-sustain-market-share-beyond-2011.html
By Trefis, The Street
03/04/11


...

We expect Motorola Mobility's tablet market share to decline going forward -- we anticipate that the company's tablet units sales will grow by 30% in 2012, while IDC expects a 60% tablet market growth in 2012. Hence, Motorola Mobility will need to sell tablets at a much faster clip if it wants to keep pace with the market. The company would actually need to sell an estimated 6.4 million tablets in 2012 to accomplish this (vs. our base case estimate of 5.2 million). This scenario would imply an incremental 4% upside to our $25.45 price estimate for Motorola Mobility."

You got that right. LOL

And the copycats are fighting:

HP to RIM: Our iPad Challenger Is More Original Than Your iPad Challenger
by John Paczkowski
All Things Digital
Posted on March 2, 2011

"sn’t this ironic. Hewlett-Packard and Research in Motion, two companies that haven’t officially launched their first tablets yet, talking smack to one another the day before Apple debuts its second.

Evidently, HP feels RIM’s BlackBerry Playbook UI borrows pretty heavily from the webOS operating system on which its TouchPad will run, and it is more than happy to say so publicly.

“There are some uncanny similarities,” HP’s Jon Oakes told LapTop. “It’s a fast innovation cycle and a fast imitation cycle in this market, so we just know that we have the creative engine here to continue to build on what we have, and we’ll keep innovating, we’ll keep honing and those guys hopefully will continue to see the value in it and keep following us by about a year.”

..."


Translation: We copied Apple first! Back off!

And don't forget this:

Xoom Corp Sues Motorola Over Tablet Name
February 25, 2011
By Kevin Parrish

"Thursday brought reports that San Francisco-based money transfer company Xoom Corporation has filed a lawsuit against Motorola in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California.

...

Anyway, all this tablet talk aside, the important thing is that right now the Sabres are winning 2-0 half way through the second period.
 
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Btw

In all these talks about "inadequacy" of Samsung Galaxy 10.1 because of its thickness one important fact has been lost namely that Galaxy is actually lighter than iPad 2. I do not know what other people think but to me tablet weight is much more important than thickness. I actually prefer 7" tablets because of that. Minor size deviations are totally irrelevant.

Also, when Samsung VP said that they might reconsider the pricing, are people really sure that he was talking about Galaxy or about the prices that Samsung charged Apple for iPad of components? Maybe it's another case of "lost in translation" similar to the one we had a week ago ("small" sales vs "smooth sales")? ;)
 
I am not sure what you mean. The iPad 2 will be the first dual core tablet to ship in volume (large amounts, I know some people are having real issue with this word ;)). However, it is not the first dual core tablet to ship!

until you define large amounts you are only stating what you think a large amount is. Apple version of large amounts will differ from other manufactures. so basically you're spouting nonsense.
 
Here is a poll on tablets:

Friday Poll: iPad 2's impact on tablet market?

By the way, if you are thinking of buying and Android tablet the problem is where to start? There are so many of them and many are down right bad but priced low enough to lure people into buying one.

I would think that fans of Android tablets would spend more time sharing information about which is the best to buy but they'd rather spend time debating what Steve Job's said. So I found this slide show:

How to spot a bad Android tablet


My favorite is the tablet with a stylus! A stylus! Its like an oversized PDA.


Update: Sabres and Wild are tied. 7 minutes to go in the third. Go Sabres!
 
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And the copycats are fighting:
(HP feels RIM’s BlackBerry Playbook UI borrows pretty heavily from the webOS )
Translation: We copied Apple first! Back off!

It has nothing to do with Apple.

They were talking about the multitasking card metaphor that WebOS uses.

And don't forget this:
Xoom Corp Sues Motorola Over Tablet Name

Reminds one of Cisco suing Apple over "iPhone".
 
until you define large amounts you are only stating what you think a large amount is. Apple version of large amounts will differ from other manufactures. so basically you're spouting nonsense.
I don't quite understand how I am spouting nonsense. I can't define what Apple considers volume because I don't work there but I am fairly certain that Apple will be the first one to ship multiple millions of dual core tablets before others.
 
volume (large amounts,..)

define large amount. to you it may be millions to others it may be hundreds of thousands. nobody can make a statement that they will be the first to sell volumes until there is a definitive goalpost to be under or over.

Don't bother. According to Deathchill, the manufacturing industry coined a phrase for something entirely subjective. "Hey, we're shipping volumes now baby... 4 units! That's large enough for me!".

You know, it was important to go to the trouble of coining a phrase for stating "We're shipping a lot according to ourselves".
 
Don't bother. According to Deathchill, the manufacturing industry coined a phrase for something entirely subjective. "Hey, we're shipping volumes now baby... 4 units! That's large enough for me!".

You know, it was important to go to the trouble of coining a phrase for stating "We're shipping a lot according to ourselves".

Huh? You're the one who said that any sort of shipping is considered shipping in volume. I don't understand.

I said that Steve clearly meant they were going to be the first to ship large amounts of dual core tablets. That's obvious.

EDIT: Other guy: Apple has probably already a mass of iPad 2's so by the end of March they will have shipped millions out (but not necessarily sold millions).
 
In all these talks about "inadequacy" of Samsung Galaxy 10.1 because of its thickness one important fact has been lost namely that Galaxy is actually lighter than iPad 2. I do not know what other people think but to me tablet weight is much more important than thickness. I actually prefer 7" tablets because of that. Minor size deviations are totally irrelevant.

Yeah I prefer 3.5" and some day 1" tablets because they are all much lighter.
 
Huh? You're the one who said

I told you not to comment about what I said until you actually understand what I said. I did not say what you say I said right now. See my posts again, read, re-read. Ask me for precisions in private if you still don't get it. Until then, ignore me and stop putting words into my mouth.
 
It has nothing to do with Apple.

They were talking about the multitasking card metaphor that WebOS uses.

Right. No one in the tablet business copied Apple; including these companies.

The issue between these two companies discussed in that article has noting to do with Apple. Yet the irony is there.

Update: Sabres win it in overtime! Dreeeeeewwwwwww Stafford
 
I told you not to comment about what I said until you actually understand what I said. I did not say what you say I said right now. See my posts again, read, re-read. Ask me for precisions in private if you still don't get it. Until then, ignore me and stop putting words into my mouth.
You said you could be sending out 1000 units and be "shipping in volume". That's slightly true because each industry's definition of volume could be different, but we're talking about the tablet industry here.

I am not sure that we are even arguing. I read your comments but you're completely ignoring what Steve said and focusing on the fact that it's a "coined phrase". Ignore that and assume that it was just the chosen words because it sounds much nicer then "WE GOIN' SELL A LOT."

However, I think you missed my other post. Let's completely ignore this "coined phrase" for a second: when Steve says shipping in volume you would assume that means large amounts, yes?
 
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