Sounds like a sign of someone that desperately wants mobile devices to feel magical again to the point of absurdity like going all in on this foldable concept in spite of reality, the magic isn’t coming back that ship sailed years ago.
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Samsung Retrieving Defective Galaxy Fold Review Units as it Works to Fix Display Issues Before Launch
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Get 'em while they're hot! Don't wait till they 'splode in your face.
Samsung Retrieving Defective Galaxy Fold Review Units as it Works to Fix Display Issues Before Launch
that was easy
Samsung Retrieving Defective Galaxy Fold Review Units as it Works to Fix Display Issues Before Lunch
that was easy
Samsung Retrieving Defective Galaxy Fold Review Units as it Works to Fix Display Issues Before Lunch
Change the name to Galaxy Break. Problem solved.
Have some perspective.
Samsung is an enormous, powerful company with over $200B in revenue annually.
Even if they miraculously sell 1M units, $2B in revenue (not profit) from a product that likely cost them a ton to even bring to market and is currently damaging their brand is hardly worth it.
What the hell are you doing here posting intelligent conversation?? If it’s not Apple/Samsung bashing you have no place here. /S
You make an excellent observation though...
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People could order them. I've even seen someone here at MR who ordered one already. There's no qualifications required to buy one other than you have the money to spend.
I had a Surface Pro 4, and as much as I didn't like how it worked (terrible as a tablet) it was nowhere near as bad as the Galaxy Fold.
Like it or hate it, Samsung is showing a lot more #Courage by attempting this than Apple did by removing the headphone jack.
If Samsung can figure out how to keep the screens from dying while being used as an everyday device (I have my doubts), I wonder what they will do when every owner complains about the scratches the screen protector film exhibits after limited use? Are they going to say it is a cosmetic issue that doesn’t effect usability?
Frankly, I think they’d be better off using a solution that takes two (or more) glass screens where one edge is frameless / edgeless on each of two panels that allows the two to connect and become one seamed screen. The mechanism would be more complicated, and the surface wouldn’t be seamless, but maintaining a glass surface would eliminate the plastic scratching / stretching that will always occur and may actually allow for a thinner overall device since they wouldn’t have to deal with the radius of the fold required today.
Frankly, I think they’d be better off using a solution that takes two (or more) glass screens where one edge is frameless / edgeless on each of two panels that allows the two to connect and become one seamed screen. The mechanism would be more complicated, and the surface wouldn’t be seamless, but maintaining a glass surface would eliminate the plastic scratching / stretching that will always occur and may actually allow for a thinner overall device since they wouldn’t have to deal with the radius of the fold required today.
This is actually an improvement since the last launch. Zero phones caught on fire this time. Good job!
Apple doesn’t generally just attempt to make a product. They are always working on things that never see the light of day for all sorts of reasons - cost, quality, function or lack thereof, etc. Apple, because of their volumes and perception of quality, is not going to start selling a folding screen iPhone because they want people to think they’re leading the industry with technology - because they know the technology and the functionality / usability of such a device is not ready for prime time.
I don't think Apple would release so obviously fail able product.
I mean, if they did any amount of QA testing they would have found some of these issues given the percentage affected, and if they had done any UX testing they would have discovered that users are likely to peel off the protective film. And if they had any decent industrial engineers and designers working at Samsung, it would have been obvious to them that if you inset a film like that, a user will naturally pick at it and want to remove it. It should have been integrated into the display cover hardware itself, but my guess is that problems cropped up and they didn't want to delay it so they slapped these protective "stickers" onto them during the production process instead of redesigning and retooling for a unified piece. Looks kinda half-assed.
Why do people keep saying Airpods and the Apple watch were Apple's innovation when that's a flat out lie. Wireless headphones and smart watches were already on the market when both those products came out.
Apple does have the best smartwatch on the market but the Airpods look stupid in my opinion.
I think the problem may be more complicated than just bad QA. It’s just physics that any material that has any kind of meaningful thickness will not bend infinitely because bending creates compression on one side and tension on the other side and vice versa, which eventually leads to fatigue. One possible way to try to avoid that is to make a laminate of very thin layers that can move relative to each other. That however means that the bonding of the layers can’t be very tight or you’d end up with fatigue again or delamination, both which are very much unwanted in a screen. The protector coming off easily indicates a weak bond, creases in the middle indicate delamination. This thing is just not ready yet, maybe never will be. Probably would be better to just have two bezelless screens next to each other with a very narrow hinge so you get like 1-2 pixels of separation only.
It sure would be interesting to know for how long Sam song had running test devices in their labs before their key notes and sending out phones to reviewers. Surely they must have experienced this problem if they had puts the time to try every possible thing that could go wrong with the foldable part of the phone.
guess they should have kept selling note 7 with the exploding batteries.
I agree. However, a $2k product being released to the consumer marketplace with such significant design flaws really brings questions to the surface about Samsung's own attitude. Experimentation is one thing. This was something else.
I've been speculating that Apple may do something similar to what you just suggested. Do a display on top and bottom outside, with a hinge that they slide over, and have them magnetically snap in the middle. There may even be a way that you could do some optical tricks in the middle with some lensing under the display along the seam and software to fire the edge pixels brighter through an angled substrate to help hide the seam. Remember Apple likes doing weird stuff like that, such as on the Liquid Retina display on the iPhone XR and iPad Pro where they did some tricky stuff to get the LCD to mimic the OLED along the rounded edges.
But overall I think if you're going to do a continuous display, an outer bend makes more sense than an inner one because it can be more gradual and is less likely to stress the material as much. I think if you get the right material that can stretch just a slight amount and go back to its original position, it should last for a normal 3-5 year smartphone lifespan, especially if you do it on the outside in these first generation products. I think Apple is fine with sitting back for a bit while these companies struggle and Apple will be working on new materials in their labs and working towards making the thing a lot thinner and lighter. This is one area where Apple's obsession with thin devices might actually pay off in a big way (the other being the Apple Watch SoC).
Of course, we will take them to Apple to be fixed we have Applecare, but we are waiting for the new Marketing ones to come in so we can use them while ours in the shop.
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Airpods may look stupid, but Apple makes a ton of money off of them.