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Samsung Retrieving Defective Galaxy Fold Review Units as it Works to Fix Display Issues Before Launch
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They’ve had prototypes for a few years now and probably would have kept this one in inside testing for awhile. The problem is...Huawei.
I can’t remember if there were allegations of IP theft of this folding tech by Huawei, but whether it was via IP theft or genuine engineering prowess, Huawei was poised to beat them to the market with foldables. Samsung just couldn’t stand to see that happen when they were the ones who famously showed off working prototypes years ago.
And Huawei is their biggest threat right now. Not Apple. Apple is often their biggest customer. But Huawei makes most of their own components or sources from fellow Chinese companies. The relationships are very different. If people don’t believe it, look how fast Apple made peace with Qualcomm despite Huawei offering them 5G modems. That was almost comical.
It’s actually Huawei that Apple and Samsung fans need to keep an eye on because Huawei wants to dominate globally and become number one globally. If the US government would have let them in, it’s Apple market share in the US they really want to go gunning for, after they destroy Samsung in the Android sphere. Read up on their leadership, it’s a bit chilling.
The enemy of my enemy is my friend...so I would not be surprised to see Apple and Samsung doing business together over foldables once one or both of them gets it to a real durable working product we can all be happy to own. The rumor on this site weeks ago was that Samsung shopped foldable displays to Apple. It wouldn’t surprise me if they’d rather Apple be the ones to introduce the first killer foldable with their displays rather than see Huawei dominate the market. I am speculating of course.
Oh no, that old story again. When everyone was complaining about iPhones and "holding it wrong", I looked at the instruction booklet of my Nokia phone (at that time Nokia was the absolute market leader), and it said "reception may fail if you hold the phone wrong". The difference is that with most phones, nobody checks how much force they need to bend them (because if you find out, your phone breaks), nobody checks how to hold it to make reception fail (because if you find out, you can't make phone calls), they only do that with iPhones.
Yep. If they were going to release them on April 26, they had to already be making them.
That's total ********. While all the companies work on new products Apple maintains much more secrecy, so we don't know at what level their R&D on fold-able phones is... but based on the other products and their patents on them, we can say they will be much ahead of what Samesung just released.
For example:
Look at TouchID,Watch FaceID, AirPods etc... it took a while to catch up on TouchID and Watch where as for FaceID and AirPods they are still struggling to match with Apple even after 2 years... don't you understand something there?
Manufacturing a component is not equal to designing it, if it is equal then China would be number one in making new operating systems and phones...
"Hey QA, test this new device please. By careful. If you break it, the cost comes out of your salary". Number of phones broken during testing: Zero.
Apple haters are dying for any other company to have an iPhone moment. Doesn’t matter if the product breaks. It needs to happen.
Technically no one could purchase it yet. These were all review units.
My US$0.02. Samsung intentionally priced this high in order to limit the number of units sold. I doubt they even want to sell a million units. They want to sell screens to Apple and other hardware O.E.M.'s.
This is the same strategy that Microsoft finally learned to take with the Surface line. In both cases the companies are using this to showcase the direction they are heading. In Microsoft's case it is their software, in Samsung's case it is their components.
It looks like you got the completely wrong end of the stick.
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That would be $200 million sales price, so probably half that in production cost. But once they figure out how to build a phone that doesn't break, they will probably also figure out how to fix these phones. If it costs $200 to fix one, then the costs is only $20 million. Sure, that's more than I have in my bank account, but no big deal for Samsung.
Just a terrible design and product overall*. Surely no one will actually lay down Dollarpounds on one of these.
*Not Samsung bashing. The S10 is pretty nice!
*Not Samsung bashing. The S10 is pretty nice!
That's unlikely. They calculated that they can make profit with this product. Or at least that people would say "look at this great product, but it's too expensive for me, so I buy a cheaper Samsung product". And that calculation was based on the total cost of developing the product.
Now the only cost is developing a folding mechanism that doesn't break within two days. That may be difficult, but should be a lot cheaper than the complete development cost.
You're right, it's on YouTube for everyone to go see.
They said this isn't a mass consumer device and they'd be releasing this in limited quantity, because it's a new and different experience and they wanted to create a concierge support service to the early adopters of this device. That being said they probably made maybe 20,000 of these tops.
I personally am hoping this takes off and does good. I am very excited for foldable/Flexible displays not just for phones but for all types of applications. Yes I am a pre order customer, and yes I know I have a Gen 1 device and knew it would have its bugs, But I do agree what many on here have said that there is a VERY good chance this may end up getting scraped. The bad press mixed with the price tag is going to steer many users aways. I work for Bestbuy mobile and since the announcement yesterday I personally got 2 customers request to cancel their pre orders. The rumors of the fix includes applying a new screen protector that extends past the bezel to prevent it from being peeled off, however as we know peeling off the screen protector causing damage to the screens so is Samsung going to have to replace every screen now just to implement this fix? The next question is the 5G fold is "Supposed" to be launching in less than 5 months. With this delay is Samsung going to release this Fold with the 5G model now, or will they just scrap this and release only the 5G model with the corrected fixes? If they do are they going to make us pay the difference for the "5G" tech? There is many questions all of which point out to a negative outcome for Samsung. Ive said it before and I will say it again, This phone has been in the making for 8 freaking years!!! The last 2 years it has been this very design how the HELL did Samsung miss all these vulnerabilities? It took a handful of youtubers to find critical flaws in less than 48 hours. Either Samsung knew of these issues and was just hoping to get by of their QC team blows and did acutal no real world testing!
I’m not a fan of Samsung’s products, but I would like to see this happen. I think the possibility for this tech could go beyond just a phone.
Still anecdotal, but seriously, take it to Apple. You should because you'll be doing your part to make them respond in a bigger way if needed.
I am 100% confident Apple will take care of your issue.
Samsung does make excellent hardware and they still do. The Galaxy Fold needs some tweaking and adjustments to make this product better for the user, for those saying they should just ‘delete/trash the Galaxy Fold’ altogether is not in Samsung’s interest I’m sure at this point. ‘Giving up on the product’ would show that Samsung never believed in this product, but trying to make it better/retooling it indicates they believe in the Fold.
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At least it WORKS as advertised!
Hey at least they're trying something new. You can't succeed without failing. Apple hasn't innovated since Steve Jobs died.
Why say that Steve Jobs stuff again and again apple watch airpods is innovation apple dont rush like other companies that wanna just be the first, Samsung is silly for making that a terrible phone