Samsung Reveals Galaxy S5 With Home Button Fingerprint Sensor, Accompanying 'Gear Fit' Band

[Dave.UK]

So we can only compare sales numbers for Android devices with each other, and iPhones are on their own?

How about those who are simply looking to buy a SMARTPHONE and aren't sure which way to go?

It's funny - with regards to sales numbers, when we want to make Android look good we say "Holy cow Android has 80% world marketshare"! But we're talking hundreds of devices versus 1 iPhone line and a smattering of WP8 devices.

When we want to talk up Samsung - "Good lord! Samsung sold twice as many smartphones as Apple did last year!" But we're talking dozens of product lines ranging from cheap to the Note line.

The minute anyone brings up "Apple has the best selling smartphone line in the world" and the pretty staggering number of iPhones sold (ONE LINE), its not a fair comparison.....

I think your going off the original point here.

Samsung have sold 200 million Galaxy S devices. Someone said thats not really an achievement as Apple have sold 400 million iPhones.

If Samsung was the only Android phone available, then they would have a figure either the same of greater then that of Apple, however they have to compete against other Android handsets.

I dont know why your making it that confusing!

 

[oplix]

AHAHAHAHHAHAA....*looks at it again*

HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

 

[cocky jeremy]

Ah, but you do find time to comment. Interesting. I'd say, if you don't care: don't read, don't comment. Seems easier for everyone.

I can comment all day on stuff I don't care about. It doesn't mean I do care, but commenting is the only way to let the people in control of bringing content to the site know that we don't care or want to see this stuff. We are on macrumors, after all.

 

[diazj3]

I feel that Samsung do the following timetable these days:

• Watch rumors coming from Apple - Develop & Release a wide range of these hoping they will get a hit
• Watch apple come out with latest tech
• Copy that tech - Fingerprint sensor, gold?

Personally, as a consumer, I couldn't care less about who invents what... as long as it works, has a good service level and comes at a reasonable price . The only ones that benefit from that endless and hollow argument are the company executives that use it to slow down competition, charge higher prices and justify insane bonuses... and the lawyers they hire to sue and troll patents. Everybody else gets screwed, one way or another.

Plus, it's not as if Apple was perfect in any way either, so... good for samsung.

Cheers!

 

[roadbloc]

Wow, a gold version and a fingerprint scanner, I'm schocked.

By the way, did they throw 4K video recording just because it's technologically possible or people are really getting those displays now and I'm living under a rock? Last time I checked they were... a little expensive for a TV that lacks movies and shows for that resolution. Thanks.

I know. How dare Samsung attempt to progress technology. In fact, how dare Apple for doing the same thing! Nobody needs a 64bit processor in their phone!

 

[kobalap]

So you have to use 2 hands to unlock the phone...

..so getting in the car, carrying groceries, carrying a infant, carrying my old grandma, carrying my AK, carrying a lost kitten..

..all have to be dropped in order to hold phone in one hand, and use another finger to swipe. As you see he tried to use 1 hand to hold and unlock..and he couldn't.

Brilliant, looks like that old grandma walking across the street has to drop everything just to unlock the phone. Good job Samsung

To be fair, out of all of the use cases you described, the only one that is realistic is "carrying a lost kitten".

 

[oplix]

this is what happens when a Kirf company like Samsung decides to integrate random technologies into phones without doing any R&R of their own.

Lets stick a 2 cent sensor into ours, do absolutely no research of our own to determine whether it's actually useful.

 

[epic-retouching]

Did you expect them to come out with a round phone? Triangle? Trapezoid? Octagon?

Yet Apple gets laughed at for continuing their design. Oh dear. You must be a Samsung owner

 

[iWe]

For a so-called flagship phone the Galaxy S5 is just astonishingly bland and cheap looking.

 

[jrswizzle]

I think your going off the original point here.



Samsung have sold 200 million Galaxy S devices. Someone said thats not really an achievement as Apple have sold 400 million iPhones.



If Samsung was the only Android phone available, then they would have a figure either the same of greater then that of Apple, however they have to compete against other Android handsets.



I dont know why your making it that confusing!

I'm not making anything confusing. But playing the "what if" game isn't really any way to argue a point.

If none of the other Android OEMs existed, we'd have a very different markets hate landscape neither or us can predict.

Samsung's 200 million Galaxy devices is laudable. Apple's 400 million in the same timeframe is staggering.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

I see they went back to rounded rectangles, and not a rounded weird shape as was in the S4 and S5. They'll get sued again...

 

[MrXiro]

Does anybody really care ?

I certainly don't.

Of course people care... I'm a tech enthusiast and I always want to know what they have in store for us next... don't be an Apple Fanboy. Be a Technology Fan!

I'm probably never going to leave the iOS ecosystem but I love hearing what Android has to offer and what's next in tech.

 

[Dave.UK]

I'm not making anything confusing. But playing the "what if" game isn't really any way to argue a point.

If none of the other Android OEMs existed, we'd have a very different markets hate landscape neither or us can predict.

Samsung's 200 million Galaxy devices is laudable. Apple's 400 million in the same timeframe is staggering.

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.

Comparing a market with one handset to another market with hundreds of different handsets dosent really work.

 

[jrswizzle]

We'll have to agree to disagree on this point.



Comparing a market with one handset to another market with hundreds of different handsets dosent really work.

I'm comparing players in the same market - smartphones.

Agree to disagree!

 

[KdParker]

Well, it’s official: the iPhone 6 will not have a larger display. For a 4.7” screen, it would need a 555 PPI. If Samsung could not increase their PPI beyond 441 for the S5, in fact they even lowered it by a little (and let’s not forget they design and manufacture their own screens, thereby lowering component costs), then Apple will certainly not be able to do so while keeping their high profit margins on their flagship product. I guess we’ll have to put up with the 4” size for at least the next 2 years...

LOL... yes that must be it.

 

[Menneisyys2]

Wow, a gold version and a fingerprint scanner, I'm schocked.

By the way, did they throw 4K video recording just because it's technologically possible or people are really getting those displays now and I'm living under a rock? Last time I checked they were... a little expensive for a TV that lacks movies and shows for that resolution. Thanks.

4K is demanded by a lot of power users (like me), who wouldn't purchase any new phone w/o 4K support. As we've discussed this here at the Videos forum (I heavily recommend for example the post at https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18761738/ ), it's worth switching to recording important stuff in 4K as soon as it's possible, even if you currently don't have a 4K display.

 

[spinedoc77]

Based on initial reviews and the demo video, its not very reliable or accurate.....

Ahh, that's too bad. Even though I don't plan getting the S5 I'm sure I'll end up with a Note 4 eventually. I guess technology for fingerprint sensors on any phone just isn't there yet.

 

[szw-mapple fan]

Wait -- No RAM upgrade from S4?

 

[jrswizzle]

Ahh, that's too bad. Even though I don't plan getting the S5 I'm sure I'll end up with a Note 4 eventually. I guess technology for fingerprint sensors on any phone just isn't there yet.

Lol....

In my experience, TouchID works extremely well and reliably. Can't wait until I have the option to upgrade to an iPad with TouchID.

 

[apolloa]

I've actually posted in these forums that I hope/think Apple will release some unique features for a larger iPhone and the iPad eventually. Something that differentiates the segments other than simply the size.

Perhaps this is that year because of the release of larger screen offerings? I don't know. I do know that whatever they do - I'd like as much screen in as small of a device as possible. My sweet spot would likely be a device with just about the same dimensions as the 5S, but with a larger screen and the design of the iPad mini/Air.

Not sure how much more screen they could squeeze in their - my guess is only .3" at the most. But I don't think a 4.7" iPhone is going to physically be much bigger than the current iPhones. And I think if they put out a 4.7" AND a 5.5" version - the 5.5" will get SOMETHING that sets it apart.

I don't know what that is (though I would say with near 100% certainty, it won't be a stylus or "s-pen" like tool), but I'll bet there's something.

No idea what they could offer? I certainly think you need over 5" to make a device like the S pen useful. they need to mix up the iOS multi tasking or something, one thing Samsung HAS got right is it new Android overlay on it's 12.2" and other Pro models, making good use of the space for multi tasking. Not much use on a phone yes, but they have shown you can do something different with that space.

 

[Millah]

Unlike some Apple users on this thread who don't pay attention to details like the fact that the S5 is using local encryption as per my previous post

Maybe you missed the point of my comment and the comment I replied to. It was about how much hysteria and paranoia Apple got for fingerprint scanning that seemingly gets passed by competitors when they come out with something similar after Apple, despite Apples very clear messaging surrounding the security and secure enclave and competitors very unclear messaging. It just seems Apple is always the one getting questioned and fingers pointed at, not their competitors.

Way to miss the conversation, but thanks for jumping in.

 

[kobalap]

so if you are carrying groceries to your car you will stare into your iphone just to pass the time?

Occasionally, when walking around with one hand occupied, such as carrying a lost cat, the phone rings.

 

[jrswizzle]

No idea what they could offer? I certainly think you need over 5" to make a device like the S pen useful. they need to mix up the iOS multi tasking or something, one thing Samsung HAS got right is it new Android overlay on it's 12.2" and other Pro models, making good use of the space for multi tasking. Not much use on a phone yes, but they have shown you can do something different with that space.

I think using the space differently is all I could see that would be useful at this point. I have only curiosity for a device like the S-Pen and little to no desire for multiple window multitasking on my phone (even at 5.5").

I'm hoping for something I haven't thought of. But even so - if it's the same layout across the board, I'll be fine with it. I like iOS and Apple too much. Since I haven't yet thought of what I'd want, I can't be disappointed.

 

[Dave532]

If they can design, QC, manufacture, and sell a feature on a phone that fast they are a pretty impressive company. Thats if you believe they started designing a fingerprint scanner when Apple came out with one. I don't.

Alternatively, they do a half arsed implementation that doesn't work properly in a few months. Cramming things into a box is easy if you don't care how well they work.

I remember the first browser wars (Netscape v IE) there'd be comparison charts printed on the Netscape website, they were adding features all the time to ensure they ticked more boxes, it quickly turned the product into a bloated mess.

 

[bushido]

So with your reasoning, Apple will be wrong when they will introduce the iWatch? You conveniently condemn Samsung for waiting with the implementation of the fingerprint sensor, yet applaud Apple for waiting with the iWatch and doing it right. I really can't stand this double standard on this site.

Not to mention that it looks that Samsung is on the right track in using the FP access, such as pay, secure area access, etc.

Will see if all that talk from Tim will result the iPhone 6 to have more than slightly better battery life and a better camera.

yep and i hate those watches either way and if apple would come up with a bigger screen id certainly think its because samsungs success with it. well already did with the iPhone 5