Samsung Reveals Galaxy S5 With Home Button Fingerprint Sensor, Accompanying 'Gear Fit' Band

[NT1440]

Install from Google Play.
Check ratings/reviews of the app.
Check the permissions it asks for.
Dont deactivate the setting that says "Install apps from unknown sources"
Dont install pirated apps.

In the 5 years ive had android, and known people that have android - no one has ever suffered from malware.

How would you know? If the malware doesn't serve up ads how do you know its there at all?

 

[rhett7660]

GoPro forums. Members recording in 4K report on average 1 hours recording equates to 22GB/

Gotcha....

Seems like that would be completely dependent on the bitrate that the video is recorded at.

This, was going to be my next comment also. From the site it is saying 15 frames per second for 4K video.

http://gopro.com/cameras/undefined/cameras/hd-hero3-black-edition#technical-specs

I am willing to bet the 22gigs is going to go up for a 30fps video.

Thanks for the info and location.

 

[Dave.UK]

So the CISCO study is a big fat lie? Just because you or your friends have not been attacked by malware does not mean that others have not. And of those studied by CISCO 99% of mobile malware attacks were targeted at Android devices..One could publish a study based on one;s own experience and that of one's close friends, but its sample size would probably be insignificant to gain any sort of notoriety.

How many people were studied my CISCO?

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How would you know? If the malware doesn't serve up ads how do you know its there at all?

Likewise, same could be said for ios.

Anyway, this is going way off topic.

 

[vomhorizon]

How many people were studied my CISCO?

I have not read the entire report but you can read up on it. Its a security report from a company that is big and has a reputation. I am sure it was a well carried out study.

https://www.cisco.com/web/offer/gist_ty2_asset/Cisco_2014_ASR.pdf

Mobile malware that targets specific devices made up just 1.2
percent of all web malware encounters in 2013. Although
not a significant percentage, it is still worth noting because
mobile malware is clearly an emerging—and logical—area of
exploration for malware developers.
According to Cisco TRAC/SIO researchers, when mobile
malware is intended to compromise a device, 99 percent of all
encounters target Android devices. Trojans targeting Java Micro
Edition (J2ME)-capable devices held the second spot in 2013,
with 0.84 percent of all mobile malware encounters.
Not all mobile malware is designed to target specific devices, however. Many encounters
involve phishing, likejacking, or other social engineering ruses, or forcible redirects to websites
other than expected. An analysis of user agents by Cisco TRAC/SIO reveals that Android
users, at 71 percent, have the highest encounter rates with all forms of web-delivered
malware, followed by Apple iPhone users with 14 percent of all web malware encounters
(Figure 14).
Cisco TRAC/SIO researchers also reported evidence of efforts to monetize Android
compromises during 2013, including launches of adware and small and medium-size
enterprise (SME)-related spyware.

 

[Dave.UK]

I have not read the entire report but you can read up on it. Its a security report from a company that is big and has a reputation. I am sure it was a well carried out study.

https://www.cisco.com/web/offer/gist_ty2_asset/Cisco_2014_ASR.pdf

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This is quite interesting.

The headline '99%' of all mobile malware attacks are targeted at Android, which sounds really bad, but if you read the report you then find that one bit of malware (Andr.Smsend) accounts for 98% of all Android malware. According to McAfee "This malware requires that the user intentionally install it upon the device. As always, users should never install applications from unknown or un-trusted android markets."

So, if you don't intentionally install the single malware application responsible for 98% of all mobile malware, you are left with a very different spread. Android may still show a slightly higher proportion of malware than some other devices, but that is to be expected from a combination of a higher installed base and the existence of third-party unregulated markets.

http://www.talkandroid.com/193261-c...f-mobile-malware-targeted-at-android-devices/

As I said earlier :-
Dont deactivate the setting that says "Install apps from unknown sources"
Dont install pirated apps.

 

[samcraig]

Sorry I misunderstood, I thought you were referring specifically to the phone options on the watch and not the band product.

I do agree, I'll give Samsung some credit here as this is a field that is rapidly taking off. I won't buy this particular one because I don't own any Android devices and I'm sure that gen2 of Apple's watch will really blow people away.

Until then I'm more than content with my pebble, but the fitness aspect of smart watches are what really intrigue me, "nudging" technology that encourages people to be more active is probably the only acceptable use of personal tracking devices IMO. As long as the data stays only on the device and your phone, with no interaction to the cloud I see a world of opportunity in automation coming shortly after the first round of smart band/watch devices.

FYI - the band doesn't run on Tizen or Android. It's a whole different OS and one that won't have an available SDK

I love my Pebble and it's simplicity.

The S5 vs. the S4

Small spec bump there. In fact PPI is reduced - not that anyone would notice. Which is why I wouldn't update from my S4. But if I was still on my SII Skyrocket I would. Also - there's pretty much a "limit" to the size I'd go before jumping into what some call a "phablet." 5" is a really good size phone for my usage. I wouldn't want to go much larger unless I went full hog into something like the Note.

I'd consider going back full time to an iPhone if they increased the screen to ~5". After spending time with the larger screen - it's really hard to go backwards.

 

[Max(IT)]

Except Apple copied Motorola by putting a finger print scanner on a phone.

Still can't you see the difference in what Apple did with TouchId related to the ridiculous droid interpretation of fingerprint scanner ?

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actually it is stolen, but stolen from Motorola, just like how apple did it






And apple, inspired by Android

Oh yes the worldwide famous Motorola Atrix ... So successful that Motorola itself got rid of the fingerprint scanner in the very next model ....

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It's all about the implementation there pal.....

And, as many fingerprint scanner "experts" will tell you - the technology Apple used for TouchID is VERY different from that used in the typical fingerprint scanner (the one used in just about every other smartphone that's tried it).

When will people get this? It's not about matching features (fingerprint scanner for fingerprint scanner). Its about how those features are implemented....THAT'S what matters.

In this case, it would seem Apple wins handily.

As usual.
Apple puts features that change the way we use our devices.
Samsung puts features just to have a longer specs list .....

 

[vomhorizon]

This is quite interesting.


http://www.talkandroid.com/193261-c...f-mobile-malware-targeted-at-android-devices/

As I said earlier :-
Dont deactivate the setting that says "Install apps from unknown sources"
Dont install pirated apps.

The entire point of malware is that people still end up installing it someway or the other. That the malware exists on devices and has been picked up in a large percentage of the cases says that it actually did end up penetrating into both android and ios (70+% for android, around 16% for iOS)..Its not as simple as to say that android users need to be more careful, its about patching up the holes and making sure malicious apps do not find access into the device(s) through proper delivery channels. You and your friends may be cautious to a point where it does not affect you, but google and apple cannot simply neglect others that may be more vulnerable for whatever reasons....Malware is more common on android devices, more malware targets android devices than ios devices" and if and when patches are discovered apple's release winds up on a huge number of ios devices in a very short time, leaving its users more secure. This is something that is a FACT, and i am willing to wager a bet that this would be one of the things google deals with at this years IO..

BTW, Has Kit Kat reached 5% adoption yet?

 

[samcraig]

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As usual.
Apple puts features that change the way we use our devices.
Samsung puts features just to have a longer specs list .....

All tech companies like their spec list. ALL of them. Apple included.

 

[Max(IT)]

Just shows how knowledgable you are

The S-Pen is in a different league to a basic stylus.

It is a pen .... Something I don't want on a device I'm supposed to use one handed ....

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because it is funny for us to laugh at Shamesung

Do you mean Samesung ?

 

[Dave.UK]

It is a pen .... Something I don't want on a device I'm supposed to use one handed ....

Then don't buy one or don't buy a device that comes with one. If you do buy a device that comes with one then don't use it!

 

[ardchoille50]

I feel that Samsung do the following timetable these days:

• Watch rumors coming from Apple - Develop & Release a wide range of these hoping they will get a hit
• Watch apple come out with latest tech
• Copy that tech - Fingerprint sensor, gold?

Yes, there's a reason some of us call them "Samesung" (it's not a typo)

 

[Dave.UK]

Yes, there's a reason some of us call them "Samesung" (it's not a typo)

And theres a reason why some of us cringe with embarrassment when we see people like yourself thinking their being funny by using childish name calling.

 

[vomhorizon]

Could we please end all this crap about copying , stealing..etc

 

[Max(IT)]

Is there a 64-bit CPU?

Have they said anything about storage space the OS takes up? The S4, they only gave us 1/2 of what it said it had because of the OS.

It's not only the os .... It's the os plus the bloatware Samsung kindly put into their smartphones ...

iPhone 5s: ram 1 Gb , 540 Mb free at boot.
Samsung galaxy S4: ram 2 Gb, 850 Mb free at boot.

Find out what's wrong ....

 

[Dave.UK]

Could we please end all this crap about copying , stealing..etc

Here Here.

 

[Max(IT)]

ah let me guess, you're a Shamesung Galaxy owner?

There are many in this forum .... But they are easily detectable

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Did you expect them to come out with a round phone? Triangle? Trapezoid? Octagon?

To have a device that doesn't resemble a 100$ Cheap phone is too much ?

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Yeah, because "gold" is a technology unique to Apple. There was no such thing as gold colored tech before Apple.

Or fingerprint readers, or phones, or icons.

Sadly what is true is the exact opposite. Apple will wait for everyone else to pioneer a new market then wait and wait and wait then amalgamate all of the minor features into a new limited device and charge twice as much for it.

Again .... Apple didn't invent the gold color, but incidentally Samesung had never released a gold phone .... before iPhone 5S

How could someone defend Samsung is beyond my comprehension ...

 

[samcraig]

And theres a reason why some of us cringe with embarrassment when we see people like yourself thinking their being funny by using childish name calling.

School must be out and the kids are home

 

[avanpelt]

I believe the camera is the heart rate sensor. You can get an app that does the same thing with the iPhone camera.

I'll check again, but I'm pretty sure the camera lens is not the heart rate sensor because the heart rate sensor glows red when the sensor is active. The sensor may be near or may be the camera flash but I'm pretty sure the sensor is not the camera lens itself.

 

[Dave.UK]

School must be out and the kids are home

Exactly what im thinking, especially as he/she just sent me this PM.

In reference to:
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/18815582/

And theres a reason why some of us cringe with embarrassment when we see people like yourself thinking they're being funny by using childish name calling.

Just saying..

 

[Max(IT)]

It's odd that you and others seem to think that anyone who says non-negative things about a non-Apple product must be hired guns.

There are many, many people worldwide who buy Samsung products instead of Apple products, even though both options are available and pricing is similar.

I'm not one of them, at least when it comes to their mobile devices, but there are good things about the S5 - waterproofing, for example - that are unlikely to appear on an iPhone in the foreseeable future. And the plastic body people apparently hate? It's a hell of a lot more comfortable to hold, and the fact you can replace the back plate on most Samsung phones means you don't need to worry about scratches. Aluminum is great, but... it's much less comfortable to hold - and holding is something you tend to do with phones - and while it lasts a lot longer, you'e only going to keep a phone for so long before you get the next one anyway.

I prefer plastic in portable devices purely because it feels better. That said, what I don't prefer is "ugly", and the S5 just doesn't appeal to me aesthetically at all. But I can certainly see why people would like it... without being paid to act like they do.

When you see someone defend Samsung and bash Apple on this forum on a very regular base, well, the doubt is justifiable ....

 

[Dave.UK]

Again .... Apple didn't invent the gold color, but incidentally Samesung had never released a gold phone .... before iPhone 5S

How could someone defend Samsung is beyond my comprehension ...

You sure about that?

Have a scroll through the link below and see the numerous amounts of gold phones Samsung has released

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...7J0AWWpYDYDg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1740&bih=854

 

[apolloa]

Again, Copy is to heavy a word here (just as it is when speaking off samsung's finger print reader)..Apple never used the swipe print mechanism and to my knowledge touch ID was the first time that a capacitance fingerprint reader was integrated into a mobile device and Operating system. I am not sure what technology the swipe sensor samsung is using is coming from and who is making it but it would be interesting to see how it compares to the other swipe sensors out in other devices and mobile phones such as the HTC MAX. Samsung's implementation is actually more similar to Motorola and HTC than to apple.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5zt1V7H88I

I would also like to know from other more informed members whether samsung's finger print is integrated into the operating system or just the touch wiz. If i root my phone would the fingerprint mechanism still work?

No, Apple 'Copied the idea from Motorola', stop trying to widening those goalposts to between the moon and the sun to attempt to state otherwise! Apple were NOT the first, plenty of people accuse others of copying Apple when they are not the first, so stop trying to make this something it isn't.

Apple got the idea from Motorola, and if anyone states otherwise, then I would again reiterate how Motorola's device was on the market over TWO years before the iPhone 5S.


I think it's just as well we have the theory that space is forever expanding, because the Apple fans on here will need all of it to fit those goalposts in!

 

[tacotester1]

not impressed

ive seen this scanner thing before somewhere...
just cant remember where

 

[Max(IT)]

Neither. The Galaxy Note series are Samsung's real flag ships, and the Note 4 has not yet been revealed. But according to product history, it's safe to assume that the Note 4 will blow everything out of the water, including Apple's 5S, the forthcoming iPhone 6 and Samsung's own S5.

.... and it will be another ridiculously huge device