not impressed
ive seen this scanner thing before somewhere...
just cant remember where
Motorola Atrix, then the iPhone 5S.
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Motorola Atrix, then the iPhone 5S.
Erm? Yeah, that's kinda the point of it mate. And considering it sells by the truck load, PLENTY of people other then you WANT a big screen phablet device.
If anything it's a market Apple has missed out on.
Hahaha, wow, this board should limit the number of posts-per-thread-per-day to save some of you from yourselves
It sells what ?
Gimme a break ...
Sales of the Note 3 met 50% sales of all iPhones.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/timwors...-approaches-50-of-all-of-apples-iphone-sales/
And do you consider yourself a statistically relevant number ?
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You sure about that?
Have a scroll through the link below and see the numerous amounts of gold phones Samsung has released
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=s...7J0AWWpYDYDg&ved=0CAkQ_AUoAQ&biw=1740&bih=854
At least take a look at what you linked here .... Half of the phones are not even Samsung devices (there are a lot of iPhone 5s !) , there are a lot of covers or personalized phones ...
And do you consider yourself a statistically relevant number ?
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At least take a look at what you linked here .... Half of the phones are not even Samsung devices (there are a lot of iPhone 5s !) , there are a lot of covers or personalized phones ...
Ah, so you can see that Samsung released gold coloured phones prior to the 5s.
Apple weren't the first to implement it, but they were the most successful, Samsung are seeing what apple does well, then copies them. Why else would Samsung decide to suddenly include it on their phone. Are you really in that much denial?! Or can't you admit when you wpare wrong? People are generally meaning that Samsung are copying whatever apple does well. Answer me this, do you think that if apple had not done a fingerprint scanner, would Samsung have done it now?
Wow ... 50% .... HALF THE SALES ... and comparing numbers from different quarters (that makes the comparison totally BS ) ... what a success ...
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2099...roid-apps-spike-in-the-google-play-store.html
Wanna read that article and try again? Malware infected apps on google play and google are not even bothering to remove as many anymore.....
Not as safe as you imply....
I still stand by what I said, especially
If you want to install a live wallpaper and its asking to access your email or contacts, then you know somethings up!
Ah, so you can see that Samsung released gold coloured phones prior to the 5s.
I don't really like the apple "gold" if you will, but man some of these are god awful looking.
It sells what ?
Gimme a break ...
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Don't worry fella, I'll watch you shoot that goalpost far far far far far far far far far far far far far far off into the distance once Apple launch a big screen iPhone
You say that, but your average consumer won't bat an eyelid.
Also, what's better, an App Store where malicious apps are not eve allowed in and any that sneak thru are removed, or one where they appear to mostly give up removing dodgy apps? Additionally, what's to stop someone maliciously posting positive reviews for dodgy apps on the play store? Combine that with an app that needs access to contacts for some minor reason, you're screwed.
Or are you going to try and stretch more lame justifications, rather than admit you're wrong. You hound others when they give you weak answers, but you're equally as bad.
Only if you prefer to label someone without knowing them and/or are paranoid.
Newsflash - one can own Apple products and bash them. That doesn't make one a paid shill for Samsung. It might just make that person have greater expectations or have disappointments in the company and/or product.
That's how the real world works - not polarized as some like to believe here. I get accused of being anti-Apple. I'm not. So much of my tech is Apple but that doesn't mean I like everything they do nor does it mean I don't love what some of the competition is doing.
There's a lot of childish behavior (not at all surprising mind you - all forums have the dynamic) with silly name calling (really - samesung/scamsuck, etc) and accusations/tin foil hats that anyone that doesn't praise all things Apple HAS to be on Samsung's payroll. And then it's rationalized by someone posting a link to the fact that Samsung was accused and I believe found "guilty" of doing some astro-turfing.
Here's another real world situation - just because it happens once, twice or even three times doesn't entitle a forum member here to name call another. Not only is it incredibly immature - it's also against forum rules.
/off soapbox
Personally id have the Google Play Store over the Apple App Store.
Its not a weak answer, its my own personal opinion.
Right, so you've basically being arguing with people with facts made up from your own opinion rather than actual facts. Good to know.
Sorry, you've lost me there.
In your last post you asked me what was better, and I gave you my own personal opinion.
I'm not wrong in the slightest, Apple copied the idea of putting a finger print scanner on a mobile phone from Motorola, and I can argue so did Samsung.
And yes I do believe Samsung would have done it, I mean HTC did it before Samsung yet NO ONE has mentioned that on here have they? Oh that's right, that's because they are HTC and it's on the back of the phone....
In a way everyone has copied motorola since they invented the cell phone.
Apple was not the first to make finger print onto a mobile device and they have never claimed to be such a company.Atrix's implementation of the finger-print sensor never caught on because it was not practical and probably did not work very well. They themselves dropped it and never pursued the idea in any other device. The rest of the industry never bothered as well. In Business or in most things, getting somewhere first is usually less important than getting things RIGHT. Interestingly the sensor used by Motorola Atrix was in fact made by authentech which is owned by apple.
Another thing i have found out is this: Another Swipe sensor like the Samsung, Moto and HTC integrated into a cellphone's home button (Again made by authentech) in 2009-10 (before the atrix iirc)
LG EXPO
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3AwrsfVG-cQ
Lets go back even further :
The Porche P9521 had a finger print sensor way back in 2007
If we are to expand into other "mobile" devices:
The Sagem MC 959 ID had one around 2000, and if we look at prototypes, Seimens had a prototype in 1998
Correction of an earlier claim : i was misinformed about the capacitive finger print sensor, as it had been used on a cell phone though the phone was not available outside of Japan. Authentech's smart sensor, the basic technology based on which apple was able to tinker saphier for the home button to serve dual purpose was found on the fujitsu regza as early as 2012.
Authentec Smart Sensor:
http://appleinsider.com/articles/12...nsor_appears_key_to_apples_urgent_acquisition
No one has ever claimed that apple invented finger print sensor on a mobile device..Where apple deserves credit is in implementing it in a proper way that has made other OEM's stand up and take notice and replicate. This is in line with apple's history where they have taken time to introduce a technology that they feel others have not implemented properly. If you study this (finger print integration into mobile phones) you will realize that industry giants and well respected mobile brands such as LG, Seimens, Fujitsu, Motorola have all tinkered with the idea but have failed to implement it in a way that actually captures the imagination of the customer and becomes the industry standard : One against which everone else pegs their own achievements in the field. This is what apple essentially did with the iPod , iPhone and iPad and seems to be a reflection of their culture as a brand/company - Their ability to see things and do them in a way which others cannot!
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And yes I do believe Samsung would have done it, I mean HTC did it before Samsung yet NO ONE has mentioned that on here have they? Oh that's right, that's because they are HTC and it's on the back of the phone....
If you read my post about this topic i have clearly mentioned HTC Max. In fact Samsung's swipe unlock is more similar to the atrix and HTC's implementation then to apple's touch-id which is based on a different technology altogether.
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Well done, you missed the key part of my post. I stated about Samsung copying features from apples successful implementation. I was not aware of the HTC version and a quick google showed me why, it was slammed by everyone as it was rubbish.
Also as I pointed out, I, along with others who may not explain well were not arguing that others did it first, the idea of fingerprint scanners have been around for decades, so you don't do yourself any favours banging that around as you just sound arrogant. The key thing is Samsung is copying what Apple have done better than others. I maintain that Samsung wouldn't have done the fingerprint scanner if Apple hadn't, because HTC's was a failure.
I'm not wrong in the slightest, Apple copied the idea of putting a finger print scanner on a mobile phone from Motorola, and I can argue so did Samsung.
And yes I do believe Samsung would have done it, I mean HTC did it before Samsung yet NO ONE has mentioned that on here have they? Oh that's right, that's because they are HTC and it's on the back of the phone....
Well done, you missed the key part of my post. I stated about Samsung copying features from apples successful implementation. I was not aware of the HTC version and a quick google showed me why, it was slammed by everyone as it was rubbish.
Also as I pointed out, I, along with others who may not explain well were not arguing that others did it first, the idea of fingerprint scanners have been around for decades, so you don't do yourself any favours banging that around as you just sound arrogant. The key thing is Samsung is copying what Apple have done better than others. I maintain that Samsung wouldn't have done the fingerprint scanner if Apple hadn't, because HTC's was a failure.
See, I STILL would refute that claim, that you are STILL implying everyone else is doing it because Apple has, yet by your own admission others have been doing it for years before? But JUST BECAUSE Apple has done it, then apparently EVERYONE must be copying them?
Because no one can possibly copy the other makers from years ago right?
Now, unless HTC are the worlds best engineers then I doubt they designed and engineered and manufactured a finger print scanner in around TWO MONTHS, or you are going to go and claim that an international business worth millions if not billions makes devices based on rumours on fan sites?
Then they did NOT COPY APPLE. For your information the HTC One Max was announced and reviewed around October last year, the iPhone 5S was launched in September last year.
So yes, again, I am not the blind or ignorant one. I face facts.
Samsung are definitely appearing to do just that with the health related stuff on the gear 2/fit. It's not just based on rumours, but also hirings and analysts reports, the gear fit looks remarkably like one of the I watch concepts floating around about 7-8 months ago or so. Also Samsung are the type of company that would go for corporate spies too. If you don't think Samsung are looking at rumours of what Apple are up to, you are very very naive.
You state: 'The key thing is Samsung is copying what Apple have done better than others'
So your still implying HTC has copied Apple then, because that is how your sentence reads.
Oh and I take it you've personally tried the HTC One Max then? Which considering you never knew existed I guess not, and thereby I guess you never rad other tech sites than Mac Rumours? So all your info is from here?
And Apple haven't implemented it well, watch videos of how easy it is to beat the system it's pretty poor. And I sound arrogant for pointing out how due to the fact others have made phones with scanners, plus the tech has existed for years, but ONLY Apple has apparently done it 'right'?
Hmm, see that mirror? Oh and those goal posts have totally gone now.
Basically you choose to ignore all rational evidence or conversation because as far as you are concerned, Apple are the only ones that can make anything right so you dismiss all others or accuse them of copying no matter what, and that is it. Nothing else. So their is no point talking to you.