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I actually like these commercials and find them really entertaining! But... other than that, they are meaningless to me. Will they cause me to switch to Samsung (or any other Android phone) and away from iOS? Not a chance! :D

And that's not just from Apple fanboyism -- hell, I regularly gripe about Apple, publicly whining about certain things I don't like, the lack of a headphone jack, for one -- Samsung's earlier "double dongle" commercial I found especially hilarious, but I know that's a dead horse!

However, when it comes down to it, even with the flaws I find, I still find for me that Apple's products are superior and it's not even close.
 
Why would Samsung show a picture of their own devices when these are negative ads? Marketing 101.

That's not the point of these ads. Samsung doesn't need to show their phone, specs, or retail locations. These are negative ads against Apple.

The reference example of how to do this right is the Mac vs. PC ads. They pointed out why the Mac was better through direct comparison, which is what Samsung is attempting to do. And the biggest difference is that every ad ended by showing an iMac, iBook, etc.

The idea that Samsung should not even show their product at the end of their ad is preposterous. The entire point of the ad is that they want you to buy what they are selling. They mention it throughout the ad, so why is it "Marketing 101" to not show it?
 
However, when it comes down to it, even with the flaws I find, I still find for me that Apple's products are superior and it's not even close.
And yet I own a Mac, iPad, iPhone, 2 Windows 10 PCs and an Android phone. I don't think any one of them is better than the other, go figure. Interestingly though, most professional neutral reviewers say the same these days.

Perhaps you could impart your thoughts to the industry as to why you are right?
 
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And yet I own a Mac, iPad, iPhone, 2 Windows 10 PCs and an Android phone. I don't think any one of them is better than the other, go figure. Interestingly though, most professional neutral reviewers say the same these days.

Perhaps you could impart your thoughts to the industry as to why you are right?

...and that's why I said, rather explicitly and unambiguously, for me, they are superior -- as it relates to my primary smartphone.

Mind you, I'm not an Apple only person. I do have a Mac mini, a MacBook Pro 15" from 2012, an iPad (the cheap one from 2017), and an iPhone (8 Plus), but I also have a Samsung Chromebook Plus (that I carry with me everyday -- MBP 15" too heavy for that and I don't need macOS for what I use the Chromebook for, nor did I want to pay the Apple tax to have a second Mac laptop), an old Dell Inspiron that runs Window 10 just fine, a generic Android tablet I use for development testing -- and I develop at work everyday on a Dell Optiplex running Windows 10.

I have no desire to convince you or anyone else to "switch" nor do I need to be an evangelist for the iPhone -- Apple is selling them just fine without my help. :)

What makes one product "better" than another for me? It's the one I like I better and integrates well with my life. Specifically, in my case, I'm just embedded enough in the Apple ecosystem (particularly iMessage) that to switch from iOS to Android would mean losing some features I really like and don't want to lose.

Conversely, I would gain nothing by switching to Android that is important enough to me to offset the loss of functionality I'd incur by leaving iOS. That's not to say I don't like some things about specific Android phones -- for example, as someone who regularly publicly whines about Apple's ditching the headphone jack, I bought an LG V20 because as a headphone enthusiast, I recognized that it was one of the best smartphones (at the time I bought it) for the money with not only a headphone jack, but a quality DAC and more powerful headphone amplifier than any iPhone I've had in the past.

I also am one of those weird people who thinks the option (not requirement) to use a stylus on a phone would be neat, so I've long liked the Note line for that reason, and I remember being jealous of one of my colleagues who used his Note with Samsung Pay because it could be used with magnetic swipe on standard POS machines -- very cool!

But for me, none of those cool features are enough to convince me to move.

That's all. Obviously, other people value differently, and that's ok! :) I'm not interested in telling someone else that their platform choice is "inferior" for them. That's really their call.
 
@DNichter I get what you mean. I worked for apple for five years and owned every product that’s been out the past ten years. I only own an iPhone now.

Here’s what I’ve discovered: it’s intriguing how enveloped you become when you buy into someone’s ecosystem, which would explain why you, as an apple user, have never seen anyone with a Note.
 
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The idea that Samsung should not even show their product at the end of their ad is preposterous. The entire point of the ad is that they want you to buy what they are selling. They mention it throughout the ad, so why is it "Marketing 101" to not show it?
Because when you show people what they get, they might not want it. These ads sell the idea that there is something better than an iPhone, which works best when you don’t see the actual product.
 
Because when you show people what they get, they might not want it. The ads sell the idea that there is something better than an iPhone, which works best when you don’t see the actual product.
EXACTLY!! The Macintosh 1984 super bowl ad didn’t picture the Mac either.
 
So samsung has learned nothing from that ad.
Not quite sure what you are saying.

Samsung is straight trolling. If they’re weren't good at it, they wouldn’t be selling the **** out of them, but they are. If it weren’t for their diligence by making a larger phone for years, Apple wouldn’t have jumped on the bandwagon and made giant ass phones.
 
Not quite sure what you are saying.

1984 is an awesome ad, these are not. 1984 was specific ad in a very different time and different circumstances. The ad worked too, these don't. I even rewatched Mac vs PC ads to be sure i remember them correctly. These ads are a cringe fest, they are nothing like Mac vs PC ads. Not even close.

Also 1984 didn't make fun of competition in a cringe way that's why they could get away without showing a Mac in that ad. Due to that and also just different atmosphere of that time.
 
1984 is an awesome ad, these are not. 1984 was specific ad in a very different time and different circumstances. The ad worked too, these don't. I even rewatched Mac vs PC ads to be sure i remember them correctly. These ads are a cringe fest, they are nothing like Mac vs PC ads. Not even close.

Also 1984 didn't make fun of competition in a cringe way that's why they could get away without showing a Mac in that ad. Due to that and also just different atmosphere of that time.
It did though. It was a direct attack on IBM.
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It did though. It was a direct attack on IBM.
Furthermore, here’s a lovely picture of Steve Jobs outside of an IBM office

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Samsung today uploaded new ads in its ongoing "Ingenius" series that makes fun of the Apple Genius Bar and pits the iPhone X against Samsung's Galaxy devices.

In the first ad, called "Power," a customer tells the "genius" that the Galaxy Note is "really powerful." "You know what I think is powerful?" the genius replies. "Being able to unlock your phone with your face." "It does that too," the customer replies.


The genius bar then points out that on iOS 12, you can FaceTime up to 32 people. "Why would I ever want to do that though?" asks the customer.

In the second ad, entitled "Pen," a customer comes into the "ingenius bar" and asks about the difference between the Apple Pencil and the S Pen that comes with the Galaxy Note 9. "Well, the Apple Pencil only works on the iPad," says the genius. "Okay, so what can I use on my phone?" asks the customer. "Uh... your finger?" replies the genius.


Samsung's newest ads in the "Ingenius" series are promoting the Galaxy Note 9, a device that it launched just yesterday. The 6.4-inch Galaxy Note 9 is equipped with a Snapdragon 845 processor, which has been bested by the iPhone X, along with an iris scanner at the front and a fingerprint sensor at the back.

It works with the S Pen stylus, and while some rumors have suggested Apple is exploring an Apple Pencil option for the iPhone, it's not clear if that's something that will ever happen.

Samsung has shared several ads in the Ingenius series, making fun of the iPhone X's notch, lack of SD card, lack of multitasking capabilities, and the fact that there's no headphone jack, while highlighting the the faster LTE speeds and camera in the Galaxy S9.

Article Link: Samsung Shares New 'Ingenius' Ads Pitting New Galaxy Note 9 Against iPhone X
Samsung comparing a brand new note to an almost year old iPhone X. The new note is simply a S9+ with more storage and a Bluetooth S Pen. Real innovative Samsung!!

The iPhone X smokes the 845 in almost every benchmark.

We’ll see who sells more come September when new iPhones come out.
 
Yeah, they do and been waiting on apple to get me one.

Plenty of third party options out there if it’s that critical.
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@DNichter I get what you mean. I worked for apple for five years and owned every product that’s been out the past ten years. I only own an iPhone now.

Here’s what I’ve discovered: it’s intriguing how enveloped you become when you buy into someone’s ecosystem, which would explain why you, as an apple user, have never seen anyone with a Note.

No I’m talking like in public, in the office with over 200 people, family, friends, nobody. I don’t know if I’ve seen a Note, but I’ve definitely never seen someone using a stylus on a phone. At least not for the last 10 or so years.
 
Samsung comparing a brand new note to an almost year old iPhone X. The new note is simply a S9+ with more storage and a Bluetooth S Pen. Real innovative Samsung!!

The iPhone X smokes the 845 in almost every benchmark.

We’ll see who sells more come September when new iPhones come out.

Exactly.

For all the crowing Samsung does about their stylus and making fun of Apple for not having a stylus...

The next iPhone (without a stylus) will VASTLY outsell this Galaxy Note 9. There'll be no contest.

Hell... Samsung's own Galaxy S series (without a stylus) outsells the Galaxy Note series as well.

It really makes the stylus commercial seem extra silly. :p
 
Samsung comparing a brand new note to an almost year old iPhone X. The new note is simply a S9+ with more storage and a Bluetooth S Pen. Real innovative Samsung!!

The iPhone X smokes the 845 in almost every benchmark.

We’ll see who sells more come September when new iPhones come out.

Not that I think Samsung phone is more "powerful" w/e that means, but benchmarks, specifically CPU benchmarks on a mobile platform are absolutely worthless since no mobile phone can sustain high CPU usage for any prolonged period of time before thermal throttling. On that note, having an external sd card, stylus etc is def more useful than CPU benchmark (if you need those things to begin with). The only real benefit of a Samsung phone in my opinion is the superior wireless chip. Intel's chip is just plain bad in comparison.
 
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No I’m talking like in public, in the office with over 200 people, family, friends, nobody. I don’t know if I’ve seen a Note, but I’ve definitely never seen someone using a stylus on a phone. At least not for the last 10 or so years.
You could see a stylus more often before iPhone in the old days of those Symbian and windows communicators. Now not so much.
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Not that I think Samsung phone is more "powerful" w/e that means, but benchmarks, specifically CPU benchmarks on a mobile platform are absolutely worthless since no mobile phone can sustain high CPU usage for any prolonged period of time before thermal throttling. On that note, having an external sd card, stylus etc is def more useful than CPU benchmark (if you need those things to begin with). The only real benefit of a Samsung phone in my opinion is the superior wireless chip. Intel's chip is just plain bad in comparison.
Intel modem is fine.
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You could see a stylus more often before iPhone in the old days of those Symbian and windows communicators. Now not so much.
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Intel modem is fine.
 

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No I’m talking like in public, in the office with over 200 people, family, friends, nobody. I don’t know if I’ve seen a Note, but I’ve definitely never seen someone using a stylus on a phone. At least not for the last 10 or so years.
It’s that they’re still selling them. They’re typically the more powerful of their lineup, so people will buy them regardless of the stylus.
 
I used the iPhone X since it came out and been using the S9+ as a secondary device since it came out and I can say without any hesitation at all that the S9+ performs just as good as the iPhone X. The traditional "Samsung Lag" is gone. So to say that the new iPhones are going to "smoke" the Note 9 - no I'm not so sure that they are going to "smoke" them. At this point its down to personal preference and you really cannot go wrong either way.
 
Plenty of third party options out there if it’s that critical.
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No I’m talking like in public, in the office with over 200 people, family, friends, nobody. I don’t know if I’ve seen a Note, but I’ve definitely never seen someone using a stylus on a phone. At least not for the last 10 or so years.

I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make. I own a Note 8. Samsung has sold between 8-15 million of them. Chances of you seeing someone using the stylus is pretty slim. I don't use it that often. When I do, I love it. But the thing is, if you don't want or need a stylus, buy the S8/8+, X, etc. This is called a choice. It's not good or bad, just a choice.

By the way, my last IPhone was a 6. My wife now uses it. I liked the 6 fine. Only IPhone I didn't like was my 4. Love the Note 8. A good friend of mine has an X (he's one of the only people I've seen with one). Funny thing is, when we're together having a beer and one of us pulls out our phone to text someone or show a picture, we never, ever comment about the phone. WE DON'T CARE. As for the ads, they are ok. Not great. But, I don't care. Would probably never have seen it if not for MacRumors. If an ad is going to make someone upset, then good luck with life. Just about every ad I've seen is either insulting in it's content, Lies, Is well produced but says nothing, or made me want to check out the product, only to find out the ad lied.
 
The reference example of how to do this right is the Mac vs. PC ads. They pointed out why the Mac was better through direct comparison, which is what Samsung is attempting to do. And the biggest difference is that every ad ended by showing an iMac, iBook, etc.

The idea that Samsung should not even show their product at the end of their ad is preposterous. The entire point of the ad is that they want you to buy what they are selling. They mention it throughout the ad, so why is it "Marketing 101" to not show it?
pc much better then mac in windows 7 era. But do remind .. I got few phone samsung which problem are

1. AUTO CHANGE 4G/EDGE. GET FIX .
2. NO FIRMWARE ANDROID update.
3. Yes their product quite stable compare to IOS ..But i still like iphone 5s use till now. Android good on large device because have back button ios good on small device.
 
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