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Samsung to Try to Beat Apple to Market with a "Retina" Display Tablet?

From some quick calculations Samsung's display would be 260 dpi, which is a bit short from 287 dpi found by neuroscientist Bryan Jones to be "true" retina quality, and a lot less than the 326 dpi of the iPhone 4's retina display.

This is even before looking at the PenTile issue, which only makes it worse.
 
Imagine if Apple and Samsung hadn't had this whole lawsuit, and Samsung would be putting their displays in iPads rather than Sharp. That would be so nice, and I would buy one in that case.
 
I think its going to be pretty funny to watch Samsung double the screen resolution when Android cant even display the present screen resolution without it being jerky and lagging all the time!

Android doesnt give the UI priority over any other job so it needs a ridiculous amount of processing power to do the UI things that iOS and WP7 do with ease.

Then there's the doubling of memory for all images to deal with and the issues that will cause for some apps being that java has limited access to memory via the virtual machine.

I just cant see any Android tab running at the resolution performing well at the moment.. well see.
 
hestroy said:
I'm always fascinated how many Apple haters always come here to "discuss". Why they just do't go somewhere else, where they can find some agreement how the Apple is bad and Samsung the best and how Apple copy from Samsung.
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Who are you talking about? I have yet to see a post suggesting Apple copied Samsung
 
threesixty360 said:
I think its going to be pretty funny to watch Samsung double the screen resolution when Android cant even display the present screen resolution without it being jerky and lagging all the time!

Android doesnt give the UI priority over any other job so it needs a ridiculous amount of processing power to do the UI things that iOS and WP7 do with ease.

Then there's the doubling of memory for all images to deal with and the issues that will cause for some apps being that java has limited access to memory via the virtual machine.

I just cant see any Android tab running at the resolution performing well at the moment.. well see.
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I agree, worry less on hardware and worry more about software development, that can take advantage of all that hardware.
 
"The grounds are our thing is cool and popular and HarvardConnection is lame! Wardo, I didn't use any of their code, I promise. I didn't use anything! Look, a guy who builds a nice chair doesn't owe money to everyone who ever has built a chair, okay? They came to me with an idea, I had a better one."

Mark Zuckerburg* (Jesse Eisenberg, The Social Network)



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divinox said:
Why do you think companies like Samsung invented better screen technology to begin with? Because Apple told them to?
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Maybe "simply" because that's the (mostly marketing-fueled) race in every field.
But you changed the original question, I think. The fact still is that Apple was the first to put that high resolution in a phone, explaining exactly why. Not as "look, my numbers are bigger than yours", but as "with this, you'll have print-like quality". Even touting it as "retina" seems adequate: forget about numbers, this is what you need.

Can't you really see the difference?

World-changing? No. It was even the evident way forward, I'd say (isn't hindsight nice?). Why didn't anyone do that before? Who knows. So, more power to Apple.

divinox said:
To get expensive things out in the market a few things are nice to have: e.g. volume orders, willing-to-pay customers. Apple clearly have both..
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I don't know if our difference here is wording or conceptual. In case it's the later, I'd say that the thing Apple does have is the capability to make customers willing to pay. Big difference.
 
Not sure if it was this 'PenTile' technology the article refers to, but I remember looking at a friend's Android phone last year (pretty sure it was a Samsung), with something like this, and it didn't look anywhere near as good as Apple's retina displays. You could see with the naked eye that there was some kind of weird fudging going on. It's a bit like consumer camera manufacturers quoting upwards of 8 megapixels but having crappy optics. In the end the numbers are pretty meaningless until you actually get one in your hands.
 
Mac2012 said:
Wow a whopping 50 pixels he he... now THAT'S a deal breaker! I'd rather give up 50 pixels and use IOS (UNIX) than some crap google OS he he...
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So you prefer one Unix-like OS over the other Unix-like OS... Wow.

At least one of those two Unix-like platforms does not need jailbreaking to become fully usable.
 
kalsta said:
Not sure if it was this 'PenTile' technology the article refers to, but I remember looking at a friend's Android phone last year (pretty sure it was a Samsung), with something like this, and it didn't look anywhere near as good as Apple's retina displays. You could see with the naked eye that there was some kind of weird fudging going on. It's a bit like consumer camera manufacturers quoting upwards of 8 megapixels but having crappy optics. In the end the numbers are pretty meaningless until you actually get one in your hands.
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The Galaxy S II's screen has a different pixel matrix.

Not sure about phones precluding the Galaxy S II but I believe some of them had the PenTile matrix. Hell, The Droid Razr and the Galaxy Nexus still uses the PenTile matrix probably because of the resolutions of the screen (Razr has a nHD screen while the Galaxy Nexus has a 720p screen). I'm not surprised if Apple had to go PenTile for the elusive iPad 3 with Retina display.
 
acidfast7 said:
4x4=16; 3x3=9
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I really don't know why you were downvoted for demonstrating that you can multiply correctly. On the other hand, you should have added that 4x4 + 3x3 = 5x5, which according to Pythagoras demonstrates that the ratio width:height:diagonal of the iPad is 4:3:5.

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realitycheck69 said:
Apple will continue to lose marketshare. They are too dumb/proud to realize that their model of business will lead to apple of the early 90s.
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And your username is realitycheck?

Apple has continued to grow market share in the PC market for the last ten years.

Apple has continued to grow market share in the phone market since the introduction of the iPhone.

Apple has created the tablet market.
 
linuxcooldude said:
It might if someone mentioned them copying Apple, so far I never heard anyone say that. Samsung, a different story altogether.
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Well, it does show that it is a common, dare I say generic, design for a tablet/slate device that multiple people independently came up with.
Screen with a black bezel .. almost like every of glossy laptop screen once you chopped of the keyboard part.

T.

PS:
The original post in the long cascade, you choose to reply to, did in fact suggest that every tablet basically copied from the iPad, design wise.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13983858/
 
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gkpm said:
From some quick calculations Samsung's display would be 260 dpi, which is a bit short from 287 dpi found by neuroscientist Bryan Jones to be "true" retina quality, and a lot less than the 326 dpi of the iPhone 4's retina display.

This is even before looking at the PenTile issue, which only makes it worse.
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1) Ill give you the MR response: You'll watch the tablet from further away, hence it will be retina.
2) You don't know if its pentile. Pure speculation on your behalf.

p.s. unless Bryan Jones added "at distance x" he's a moron. since I'm sure he did, someone else will have to take over the hat.

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tatonka said:
Well it certainly makes copying the design very difficult, wouldn't you agree?

T.
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Not if they have a time machine! Sneaky thieving b'tards!
 
mijail said:
The fact still is that Apple was the first to put that high resolution in a phone, explaining exactly why. Not as "look, my numbers are bigger than yours", but as "with this, you'll have print-like quality". Even touting it as "retina" seems adequate: forget about numbers, this is what you need.
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But this is a wrong fact, they were phones with higher ppi before the iPhone 4
 
linuxcooldude said:
I agree, worry less on hardware and worry more about software development, that can take advantage of all that hardware.
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As long as Samsung is running the Android strategy (which they will do as long as the market provides them reason to -- at the very least until W8 in other words), software development is out of the question. Hence, they specialize in hardware development.

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linuxcooldude said:
It might if someone mentioned them copying Apple, so far I never heard anyone say that. Samsung, a different story altogether.
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They said there was nothing like it before the iPad. There was.
 
tendenzi said:
+1.

But even if Samsung beats Apple to market, it's only a matter of weeks/months they'll have the lead. It took this long for Samsung to leap frog?

Samsung needs to stop pretending it innovates. It's always been the affordable to the premium line-ups, at a cost of quality and maturity in their product line ups.

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No, they only gave Samsung the blueprints to copy exactly what the tablet should look like.
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They never give Blueprints to companies. They say we want a display that does X make 10 million of them. People give Apple way to much credit for things.
 
thenerdal said:
Yes, they have. It's called bada. It's an OS that Samsung made.
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Shame it's still smartphone-only and that they've made intentions that a tablet version of Bada won't be coming to the UK anytime soon (link - no good for me as I'm in the UK). I don't understand why companies make these commitments.

Android is still their number one software bum-chum. It's android's domination that's stopping any hardware manufacture taking a slice of Apple's huge share. Personally, Google aren't putting out enough marketing to push their own platform. Microsoft have only just woken up to that fact too late when realising iMac's/MacBook's were chunking away at a decreasing PC computer market.

The reality is this revelation will not damage the iPad popularity train. As long as Apple continue to market their products like they always have done and don't annoy customers. :D
 
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