Samsung Unveils Galaxy S20 Smartphones With 5G Connectivity, New Cameras, $1,000 to $1,400 Price Range and More

[M3gatron]

I mean that my iPad Pro has 2732-by-2048-pixel resolution... that is the resolution whether it is running at a default 120hz as I smoothly slide from screen to screen, or through pictures- or whether it has lowered the refresh rate to save battery, while I’m viewing a static screen for extended periods of time. There is no resolution “trickery” going on. The resolution is constant.
This is fundamentally different than Samsung’s 120hz implementation, which is NOT default (default is half that), & to ramp up to the normal iPad Pro refresh rate, Samsung’s method must 1st decrease the resolution.

The resolution is consistent with Galaxy S20s as well, I mean it's not like it's dropping below Samsung's 1080p claim or anything. That would indeed be bad.
Anyway the S20 is a phone the ipad is a tablet. A very important detail.
Having a 120Hz Amoled display it's an achievement in itself(only the niche Rog Phone 2 was able to use such a display) so I don't see what's so bad about the fact that Samsung decided to balance the impact such a feature would have on battery.
Also in Samsung's case the refresh rate will also be adjusted based on context so it will be lowered in order to save battery in situations and apps where high refresh rate doesn't make sense or it's not necessary.

 

[Ds6778]

You mean the phone that has been around for 3 years that still sports a big ass notch and that looks exactly the same as the latest iPhone??... In other words, at that price point if a phone looks pretty to you then that's it?

I am not an Apple fan or Samsung/Android fan but I will always take functionality over aesthetics any day. At least lately, Samsung has been trying to come up and is at least listening to consumers.

lmao how can you take functionality over looks right after complaining about how the iPhone looks the same for three years now? I much prefer a symmetrical consistent look with a little bezel to hold onto. I feel like you’re intentionally ignoring that the notch is there for Face ID vs some crappy in screen fingerprint scanner that can easily be fooled.

 

[jermwhl]

It's not just a visual framework. It's their own OS (obviously borrowing heavily from Google). For example, Google's Android does not support S-pen (on phones) or memory cards, IR blasters and a lot of other hardware and features used by Samsung.

Are you just refusing to admit you’re wrong and making up stuff? Please cite where Samsung claims they make their own OS.

 

[M3gatron]

lmao how can you take functionality over looks right after complaining about how the iPhone looks the same for three years now? I much prefer a symmetrical consistent look with a little bezel to hold onto. I feel like you’re intentionally ignoring that the notch is there for Face ID vs some crappy in screen fingerprint scanner that can easily be fooled.

He was just pointing out a fact actually.
If you prefer functionaly over looks it doesn't mean you can't criticize the design.

 

[tharitm]

Interesting they priced it higher than the iPhone. I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of discounts and will drop in the value in a couple of months.

 

[Oridus]

Except that it does. This is the same sensor used by Huawei, and it already beat the iPhone 11 Pro in a comparison made by Marques Brownlee.

This is Samsung's implementation, which I guess will be better. Anyway the phone selectively adjust and decides the Megapixel count depending on the light conditions, it will not always try to use the 108 MPx sensor. It has a 12 MPx for low light situations.

You can also zoom optically to crazy levels, that is very Pro my friend. It has focused definition, meaning it can decide to select parts of your image, focus on it and make it look sharper. Instead of accusing this phone of gimmicky, Apple should see what the competition is doing and try to deliver much more.

Megapixels do not allow you to zoom optically. Megapixels relate to how many pixels can be in said image with the sensor provided. Larger megapixel sensors have exactly zero to do with optically zooming. Optically zooming is done by the lens itself producing a magnification with the glass used. While you would be able to enlarge a picture more DIGITALLY that has more megapixels, your statement on zooming is inherently false.

 

[The Game 161]

Interesting they priced it higher than the iPhone. I'm pretty sure there will be plenty of discounts and will drop in the value in a couple of months.

Suppose technically the ultra 512GB is still priced cheaper than the 512GB pro max....

 

[forerunnerg34]

The only reason I won't buy a Galaxy anymore is because after two years they won't update the OneUI/Android version anymore. I do get the regular security updates and my S8 runs just fine, no battery issues at all, not restart, but not getting the latest UI updates on a flagship after two yeas is very sad. (even lower spec Samsung phones got the update)

 

[carrrrrlos]

Sleek. The camera configuration on the back of the larger computer is a bit HAL though.

 

[forerunnerg34]

This Samsung looks absolutely horrible. Is this sarcasm?

Which part?

 

[profets]

The resolution is consistent with Galaxy S20s as well, I mean it's not like it's dropping below Samsung's 1080p claim or anything. That would indeed be bad.
Anyway the S20 is a phone the ipad is a tablet. A very important detail.
Having a 120Hz Amoled display it's an achievement in itself(only the niche Rog Phone 2 was able to use such a display) so I don't see what's so bad about the fact that Samsung decided to balance the impact such a feature would have on battery.
Also in Samsung's case the refresh rate will also be adjusted based on context so it will be lowered in order to save battery in situations and apps where high refresh rate doesn't make sense or it's not necessary.

But its not consistent. The physical display is 3040x1440 Runninto at 60hz. If you want to run it at 120hz, it drops to 2280x1080.

 

[realtuner]

That's Dex:

That's real multiwindow GUI (DeX). As far as multitasking is concerned, Android may kill the app too but because of the RAM size and OS policy it happens nowhere near as often as with iOS. In my case (Note 9) I never had an app killed by OS. They just keep running for months (unless I clean them up).

I hope this explains why 16GB for Samsung phones makes sense (at least for some users)

Doesn’t explain anything. Dex is half-baked and you showing a screenshot doesn’t change the fact it’s running horrible Android Apps blown up because developers are too lazy to optimize for tablets/larger screens.

Do you think you’re the only person here that uses an Android phone or Dex and that people aren’t going to call you out when you make a false claim about what they are capable of or how good they are?

It's not just a visual framework. It's their own OS (obviously borrowing heavily from Google). For example, Google's Android does not support S-pen (on phones) or memory cards, IR blasters and a lot of other hardware and features used by Samsung.

It’s hard to take anything you say about Android seriously when you make comments like this.

 

[profets]

You mean the phone that has been around for 3 years that still sports a big ass notch and that looks exactly the same as the latest iPhone??... In other words, at that price point if a phone looks pretty to you then that's it?

I am not an Apple fan or Samsung/Android fan but I will always take functionality over aesthetics any day. At least lately, Samsung has been trying to come up and is at least listening to consumers.

Nothing wrong with choosing the phone you’d prefer. But lets be real, The X/Xs/11 Pro are similar looking, but has the Galaxy series really deviated from its usual look over the past 3-4 years?

Maybe just me, but I really don’t expect nor think we should have some crazy redesigns or even significant design change year to year or even every few years. At this point its a slab of glass and metal. How much can really change? And these things are all powerful to the point that most people can easily live with one of these for 3 years or so before it starts to feel like its slowing down.

 

[Gilligan's last elephant]

Samsung are doing apple trick you must buy 128GB but want more storage you have to buy the 512GB...

Or you add a 512GB Samsung U3 micro sd card for £75.

 

[BODYBUILDERPAUL]

These are just damn nasty!!!
People getting excited over Samsung things is like getting excited over that new shiny and very sh*tty Ford Focus.
Just plain nasty!
Nasty in every respect.
In fact, a nasty piece of nastiness.

 

[bigjnyc]

Wow, base prices at up to $1400?!!

Seems crazy Samsung continues ratcheting up the prices up as they compete with the Chinese mfrs who have significantly cheaper hardware.

$1600 for the most expensive one. Yikes! Apple is not far behind at $1449, I hope they don't see this as an opportunity to bump up their prices on the 12

 

[brinary001]

Apparently you didn't look at the Buds.
They look nothing like AirPods.

This is sarcasm right? Because anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see the case is the same, the way they sit in the case and charge is the same, do I need to go on still or do you realize now that..they're the same?

 

[Lounge vibes 05]

These phones are impressive, but I do have several issues with them.
First, while the cameras are impressive, they’re a little overkill.
8K isn’t important at the moment, and probably won’t be for several years. The majority of people still don’t have 4K, let alone 8K. Most people still use 720P or 1080P. And the majority of people who have 8K displays are not using there phones to record it.
Third, samsung claims that you can upload your 8K footage onto YouTube, with no loss in quality. This is absolutely not true, YouTube videos, no matter the quality, are always compressed. And the upload times would be insane. Also, the storage that 8K video will take up will be absolutely ridiculous.
Next, 5G still isn’t nationwide, and probably won’t be for at least 3 to 5 years. And if it is possible to upload your 8K videos, you definitely will not be doing that through 5G. Also, 5G and 8K at the same time will drain the battery extremely fast, and could cause the phone to overheat.
Lastly, 120H display doesn’t work unless you down scale your displays resolution to 1080P. So you have to choose, quality or frame rate.
There’s just too many compromises

 

[Glideslope]

Give a photographer a Canon T3i from 2011 and some random off the street a 5ds with the same lens and see how that works out for you



I didn't say that this camera is worse than the iPhone 11 Pro.. having more megapixels alone doesn't mean better pictures.

They were pushing the "Megapixel" count in the live stream and I was simply stating that megapixels isn't everything in photography. They are just pushing these massive numbers for wow factor to trick consumers. I like that Apple actually makes improvements in other areas of the camera without focusing on the megapixels of the camera

Most of these discussions are really about taking snapshots. The Humane component and their technique have the most influence when making images. 90% of these phone users take snapshots.

I‘m still very satisfied with the images I make with my aging D700. My investment goes into my glass.

 

[BODYBUILDERPAUL]

Hmmm...Jealousy I detect in this forum...

Why jealous? Android... Samsung.
Please show us something that inspires us, thrills us, changes the world, makes the world a better place. A Samsung thing will never do that. Their only goal is to sell sell sell. They have no soul in what they do. They are the McDonalds of the electronics industry and nothing else.
No jealousy from this professional.

 

[rjohnstone]

Are you just refusing to admit you’re wrong and making up stuff? Please cite where Samsung claims they make their own OS.

Maybe they're thinking of Tizen, but that isn't used on any proper Galaxy phone.

 

[mi7chy]

8K video recording? Most cable packages have barely any 4K content yet.

Ever heard of YouTube that has 70%+ marketshare? 8K and 4K content and devices that play them are plenty unless you live in an Apple only ecosystem.

 

[brinary001]

• No one gives a s**t about 8K video and shouldn't for like a decade at least
  
  Most don't give a **** about 8K, some do
  
  
• More pixels in a camera ≠ better image quality
  
  Look up pixel binning, more pixels can mean better image quality if done right. Don't judge before seeing sample
  
  
• Samsung campers have criticized the iPhone's camera bump for years, only to introduce the absolute fugliest one yet of anyone in the industry
  
  Bump ugliness is subjective. I don't like it, many people don't mind
  
  
• Enjoy your 16GB of RAM - you'll need at least half of it to run that god-awful bloatware Samsung loads on top of Android
  
  Not as bad and sincerely doesn't matter anymore as most flagship phones today are plenty fast
  
  
• "Galaxy Buds" are a clear and blatant rip off of the AirPods (I'm guessing they were so busy trying to even catch up that they had no time to come up with a more original design)
  
  Not at all, they are very different in design.

They shouldn't care about 8K. The cable companies and streaming platforms they subscribe to blindly sure af don't care, so why should their customers? It's just a marketing buzz word for now; nothing concrete is even on the horizon.

Look up image sensors (that's where most of the leg work of actually taking a picture happens)

Aesthetics are subjective yes, but this point in particular was in response to their followers touting how much better it is than Apple's for a reason that now makes them all look like hypocrites.

The point still stands that Samsung unnecessarily bogs down the customer experience and, as a result, is lying with their marketing.

And finally, you sure about that..? That case and the way the buds fit in there and charge is straight out of Apple's playbook.

 

[falainber]

You're still wrong.
Samsung does not fork their OS from AOSP.

Pop open any Samsung Galaxy and look at the About section. It's Android.
Drop into the file system... it's Android.

Apparently you do not know how Android works. The framework design allows for modularity from different vendors to add support for hardware and visual elements. The core is all Google and that is why Samsung can push out security updates at the same pace as Google.

Hell Samsung beat Google on pushing out the January security update.
How? Because even Google uses some proprietary frameworks for Pixels devices and the security patch broke them.

Of course it's Android. It's Samsung's Android. Yes, Samsung does not operate the same way Amazon does. So what? Are you trying to say that Samsung releases OS based on pure AOSP? Obviously not. Can AOSP be used to run on Samsung devices? It can't. That's the point. Those who try to complain that Google version of Android is not available on Samsung phones are completely missing the point. It's not supposed to. Samsung devices get updates when Samsung prepares them (just like with Apple/iOS)

 

[Jim Lahey]

Not my cup of tea.